Author Topic: So what's next in the libel trial saga?  (Read 313871 times)

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Alfred R Jones

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2014, 10:36:46 PM »
quote "harm caused by what?" unquote

Exactly! either she was harmed or she wasn't- how would they know?

They claim their was 'no evidence'-suggesting she was not harmed by her disappearance, but then make a claim for her suffering by the contents of a book? without providing evidence(?)

I mean  really? That is a different level of silliness to grasp!

The very fact that a little girl has disappeared, what evidence would you need to prove she didn't come to 'harm'.
My guess is: she would most certainly be harmed if she was' snatched from her bed by a stranger'-the psychological impact on a 3 year old girl would be unmeasurable!

not harmed indeed!

Can you name the names of the people who stopped looking for Maddie-that could be a start... Alphabetically..America...Because that is what kind of evidence a UK court would be looking for in a libel court!, who stopped looking and why.
No, I wasn't asking about harm caused to the child, I was referring to your statement that the current court action was about compensation for harm caused.  Caused by what?

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2014, 10:47:21 PM »
The McCanns are claiming for 'suffering' for themselves and 'children' due to the contents of the book-the search being harmed as a result of the said contents.

The contents being about a police investigation...

Am I missing something?
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Alfred R Jones

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #32 on: June 19, 2014, 10:48:54 PM »
The McCanns are claiming for 'suffering' for themselves and 'children' due to the contents of the book-the search being harmed as a result of the said contents.

The contents being about a police investigation...

Am I missing something?
Yes, I think so - why is the book harmful, in the McCanns' opinion?  What is it about the book that they object to?

Offline a.baker

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #33 on: June 19, 2014, 11:34:47 PM »
They are objecting to Mr Amaral claiming in his book that he believes Madeleine is dead. They say this has caused people to stop looking for her.

Offline VIXTE

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2014, 12:46:05 AM »
The book has brought sleepless nights to Amaral too.
Every time there is a little chance she is alive and was possibly seen somewhere he must have had sleepless nights.
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stephen25000

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2014, 06:53:36 AM »
The book has brought sleepless nights to Amaral too.
Every time there is a little chance she is alive and was possibly seen somewhere he must have had sleepless nights.
 @)(++(* @)(++(*

Is she alive in the little place 10 miles from PDL, identified by Mr. Edgar ?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2014, 07:23:43 AM »
The McCanns are claiming for 'suffering' for themselves and 'children' due to the contents of the book-the search being harmed as a result of the said contents.

The contents being about a police investigation...

Am I missing something?

you are missing just about everything...the police report...archiving report...said that there was no evidence against the mccanns wheras amaral has accused them of covering up her death...completely different. But dont take my word for it teh judge will give her verdict...this year hopefully..and amaral will be totally humiliated

stephen25000

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2014, 07:45:52 AM »
you are missing just about everything...the police report...archiving report...said that there was no evidence against the mccanns wheras amaral has accused them of covering up her death...completely different. But dont take my word for it teh judge will give her verdict...this year hopefully..and amaral will be totally humiliated

No dave, there was insufficient evidence to mount a prosecution.

Why do you try to twist the report ?

and why didn't the mccanns fully cooperate with the original investigation ?

Please don't say they did, because they didn't.  8()(((@#

ferryman

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #38 on: June 20, 2014, 07:51:33 AM »
A rethink about what?  Can we change the evidence?  NO

Gonçalo has got his message out to a very large audience and in doing so has ensured that many more people worldwide are aware of Madeleine and her disappearance.  Far from hindering the search, he has brought her plight to an extremely large audience.



Disingenuous.

People who believe Amaral's book also believe Madeleine is dead.

That, in turn, hinders the search for Madeleine.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #39 on: June 20, 2014, 07:52:33 AM »
No dave, there was insufficient evidence to mount a prosecution.

Why do you try to twist the report ?

and why didn't the mccanns fully cooperate with the original investigation ?

Please don't say they did, because they didn't.  8()(((@#

the report says no evidence

ferryman

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #40 on: June 20, 2014, 07:55:57 AM »
the report says no evidence

It does.

And what a difference a word makes

Demonstrate, not prove.

Scotland Yard demonstrated the McCanns' innocence by shifting the time-line.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #41 on: June 20, 2014, 08:28:14 AM »
They are objecting to Mr Amaral claiming in his book that he believes Madeleine is dead. They say this has caused people to stop looking for her.
Yes, that's true - but on what basis can damages be brought?  There is not a Portuguese Law against Amaral making claims, so on what basis specifically woul damages be awarded?  What is the transgression committed by Amaral, if damages are awarded to the McCanns?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #42 on: June 20, 2014, 08:35:05 AM »
Yes, that's true - but on what basis can damages be brought?  There is not a Portuguese Law against Amaral making claims, so on what basis specifically woul damages be awarded?  What is the transgression committed by Amaral, if damages are awarded to the McCanns?

no one here understands the intricacies of Portuguese law. One Portuguese poster has claimed its not even alibel trial so its a waste of time listening to what other posters say. What we do know is that amarals witnesses have been trying to prove that his claims are legitimite and true to the police investigation...the mccanns have ben showing how they have been hurt by his calims. That tells us where the burden of proof lies..despite what others have said.

We also know that amaral is running scared...put all those things together and you have  a pretty accurate idea of the true facts in the libel trial

Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #43 on: June 20, 2014, 03:46:12 PM »
How do we know this with any degree of certainty? What evidence is there to suggest anything other than Dr Amaral is "playing the game"?

What game would that be....
You do understand the postion amaral is in...the evidence suggests hes down and out and palying his last throw of the dice

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #44 on: June 20, 2014, 03:46:56 PM »
The McCanns did not cooperate with the police investigation-indeed they were very reluctant to show any enthusiasm to conduct themselves in a manner which could be construed as 'helpful' even.

The mother was asked. do you know that by not answering these questions it may harm the search for your daughter.

"YES"... she answered.

She knew.  she knew it would, but she went ahead and withdrew her support to help find her daughter.
one of the last persons to see her alive-withdrew her support, her own mother.

The rest of the group, who could have help establish a time line, all gave shocking 'erring' and 'umming' statements... and they denied the police access to establish who was 'where and when' on that evening by refusing to do a reconstruction.

disgraceful behavior and yet they project all of their hatred towards a police officer.

It wouldn't get to court in this country-however  Mr Amaral would have a case against the Team Mc- to sue them and most newspapers! IMO
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin