Author Topic: So what's next in the libel trial saga?  (Read 313790 times)

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Online Eleanor

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #720 on: December 16, 2014, 05:24:03 PM »
I doubt very much Carana that anything will be resolved by the judges decision next month.

I have this gut feeling it will roll on for years to come, and the only ones to profit in the end will be the lawyers.

I agree.

stephen25000

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #721 on: December 16, 2014, 05:26:03 PM »
I would say the key difference between the Murat case and the McCann libel trial is that the McCanns have been able to disprove huge swathes of the allegations against them.

What exactly have they disproved about Amaral's allegations, bearing in mind the reason for Madelkeine,'s disappearance is not yet determined, no matter the hyperbole.

ferryman

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #722 on: December 16, 2014, 05:26:25 PM »
I think, another important point is that matters far more to the McCanns than the level of damages they will be awarded is a clear and unequivocal ruling from the court that Amaral's productions (as well as the output of his interviews) are untrue and defamatory.

ferryman

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #723 on: December 16, 2014, 05:27:25 PM »
I agree.

I'm really not so sure.

Amaral will have to find a basis of appeal.

What?

stephen25000

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #724 on: December 16, 2014, 05:29:46 PM »
I think, another important point is that matters far more to the McCanns than the level of damages they will be awarded is a clear and unequivocal ruling from the court that Amaral's productions (as well as the output of his interviews) are untrue and defamatory.

You wish.

Offline John

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #725 on: December 16, 2014, 05:34:23 PM »
The fact is that the judges were wrong.

It's as simple as that.

Why do you find that so hard to understand?

Are you going to say the same when the judge gives her ruling in March?
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

ferryman

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #726 on: December 16, 2014, 05:36:52 PM »
Are you going to say the same when the judge gives her ruling in March?

It stands to reason when so much of Amaral's book (in fact, practically all of it) has been manifestly proven untrue.

Offline John

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #727 on: December 16, 2014, 05:37:22 PM »
I would say the key difference between the Murat case and the McCann libel trial is that the McCanns have been able to disprove huge swathes of the allegations against them.

What allegations ferryman?
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

ferryman

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #728 on: December 16, 2014, 05:39:29 PM »
What allegations ferryman?

That Madeleine died in the apartment.

That the McCanns were responsible for her death and concealed her body.

That the McCanns launched a fraudulent fund in their daughter's name.

Those are the key ones.

Offline John

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #729 on: December 16, 2014, 05:44:04 PM »
That Madeleine died in the apartment.

That the McCanns were responsible for her death and concealed her body.

That the McCanns launched a fraudulent fund in their daughter's name.

Those are the key ones.

How have they disproved these allegations exactly?  Nobody except the person who moved her (assuming that occurred) knows what happened to her.  The case is as wide open as it was on the 3rd May 2007 by all accounts.





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A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

stephen25000

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #730 on: December 16, 2014, 05:45:51 PM »
That Madeleine died in the apartment.

That the McCanns were responsible for her death and concealed her body.

That the McCanns launched a fraudulent fund in their daughter's name.

Those are the key ones.

How do you know Madeleine didn't die in the apartment.

Even Redwood made the admittance that it was possible Madeleine didn't leave the apartment alive, or have you forgotten that ?

stephen25000

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #731 on: December 16, 2014, 05:46:26 PM »
How have they disproved these allegations exactly?  Nobody except the person who moved her (assuming that occurred) knows what happened to her.  The case is as wide open as it was on the 3rd May 2007.

Precisely.

ferryman

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #732 on: December 16, 2014, 05:47:56 PM »
How have they disproved these allegations exactly?  Nobody except the person who moved her (assuming that occurred) knows what happened to her.  The case is as wide open as it was on the 3rd May 2007.

Dog alerts are uncorroborated and the deployment of the dogs was incompetent.

Mark Harrison's conclusion was that if death had occurred it was most likely that Madeleine's body had been jettisoned into the sea.

There are fully audited accounts for the fund that prove it is above-board.

Online Eleanor

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #733 on: December 16, 2014, 05:48:37 PM »
How have they disproved these allegations exactly?  Nobody except the person who moved her (assuming that occurred) knows what happened to her.  The case is as wide open as it was on the 3rd May 2007 by all accounts.

The McCanns are not obliged to disprove anything.  Or perhaps Portugal doesn't subscribe to Innocent Until Proven Guilty.
I am beginning to wonder.

stephen25000

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #734 on: December 16, 2014, 05:51:32 PM »
Dog alerts are uncorroborated and the deployment of the dogs was incompetent.

Mark Harrison's conclusion was that if death had occurred it was most likely that Madeleine's body had been jettisoned into the sea.

There are fully audited accounts for the fund that prove it is above-board.

Merely because the dogs alerts weren't corroborated, doesn't mean they didn't indicate a body.

AND IF SHE DID DIE IN THE APARTMENT.......................