Author Topic: So what's next in the libel trial saga?  (Read 313790 times)

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Lyall

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #1230 on: December 31, 2014, 08:01:34 PM »
Erm....... Oh, I know.  They are waiting for The Verdict.

They have done articles during the year when there were easy opportunities for headlines that wouldn't get them into trouble.

You'd think they'd have continued in that vein if they'd had the opportunity wouldn't you?

Online Eleanor

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #1231 on: December 31, 2014, 08:06:33 PM »
They have done articles during the year when there were easy opportunities for headlines that wouldn't get them into trouble.

You'd think they'd have continued in that vein if they'd had the opportunity wouldn't you?

Perhaps like me, they haven't got a clue about what is going on.

Lyall

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #1232 on: December 31, 2014, 10:18:37 PM »
Perhaps like me, they haven't got a clue about what is going on.

I know the feeling 8(8-))

Online Eleanor

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #1233 on: December 31, 2014, 10:26:09 PM »
I know the feeling 8(8-))

It is all dreadfully confusing, not least the language barrier.  So all we can do is wait for the verdict.  How long has this been going on for now?  And will the verdict make sense when we do get to hear it.

I somewhat doubt it, somehow.  But I do expect loads of room or speculation.

Lyall

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #1234 on: December 31, 2014, 11:14:08 PM »
It is all dreadfully confusing, not least the language barrier.  So all we can do is wait for the verdict.  How long has this been going on for now?  And will the verdict make sense when we do get to hear it.

I somewhat doubt it, somehow.  But I do expect loads of room or speculation.

18 months it will be by March. I think you're right, there will always be room for different interpretations. Perhaps communication will initially be secret, some sort of agreement will be reached, and then we'll almost certainly not know what happened between them.

Does anyone think any of the parties have the appetite (or resources) to keep the fight going indefinitely with appeals etc?

Online Eleanor

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #1235 on: December 31, 2014, 11:21:08 PM »

It seems longer than eighteen months, what with all the book banning stuff, and I'm pretty sure the complaint was file longer ago than that.  But no matter, the end is nigh.

Will the loser Appeal?  Probably.  What have any of them got to lose?  Presuming that there are grounds for Appeal.

Lyall

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #1236 on: December 31, 2014, 11:23:13 PM »
There was no agreement to be had when it wasn't known what the law and judge says. The circumstances of cases like these are pretty unique and no two cases are exactly the same.

But if the conclusions/decisions are first given privately the resolute stances may change.

Who knows &%+((£

Lyall

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #1237 on: December 31, 2014, 11:32:18 PM »
It seems longer than eighteen months, what with all the book banning stuff, and I'm pretty sure the complaint was file longer ago than that.  But no matter, the end is nigh.

Will the loser Appeal?  Probably.  What have any of them got to lose?  Presuming that there are grounds for Appeal.

Ah right, the whole thing? About 5 and a half years isn't it?

Lyall

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #1238 on: January 01, 2015, 12:15:01 AM »
Everyone mostly forget the other three defendants. It's not the A v B it's portrayed as. If they don't want to carry on with it after this decision then one way or another it's over isn't it?

Online Eleanor

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #1239 on: January 01, 2015, 06:18:22 AM »
Everyone mostly forget the other three defendants. It's not the A v B it's portrayed as. If they don't want to carry on with it after this decision then one way or another it's over isn't it?

I don't know.  Supposing Goncalo Amaral loses, which is not at all certain, would it be possible for him to Appeal and for the other Defendants to drop it?

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #1240 on: January 01, 2015, 09:48:56 AM »
Happy new year to one and all!

It depends on the verdict.  Assuming it goes in the McCanns favour, that it could be joint or individual judgement.

 If it is joint and several, then they would each be liable for all of the damages, in which case ringfencing the money may be a blessing.  It would mean that appeals made would also have to be joint and several, and that could be interesting. 

But it is also possible for the judge to consider individual liability, in which case each of the three respondants  would be able to choose to settle or appeal as they wish.   

Alfred R Jones

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #1241 on: January 01, 2015, 12:01:34 PM »
You're dodging my point: why haven't the London papers reported more from that courtroom?
Because the details are not remotely interesting to 99.9% of the population maybe?  You missed my point which is that if what has been going on in court is of such great interest to the general public then why no great coverage in the PT press either?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #1242 on: January 01, 2015, 01:40:19 PM »
Because the details are not remotely interesting to 99.9% of the population maybe?  You missed my point which is that if what has been going on in court is of such great interest to the general public then why no great coverage in the PT press either?

Because apart from a gross or so of saddos like us on this forum the rest of the world is bored to tears with it?
Which is about what you said so chalk it up on the calendar Alf bo ; New year's day 2015 we agreed  8(>((
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #1243 on: January 01, 2015, 02:17:38 PM »
Because apart from a gross or so of saddos like us on this forum the rest of the world is bored to tears with it?
Which is about what you said so chalk it up on the calendar Alf bo ; New year's day 2015 we agreed  8(>((

not according to what I read on here...more and more people are now questioning the mccanns and the mccanns are losing support daily..
 *&*%£ *&*%£

Lyall

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #1244 on: January 01, 2015, 03:17:58 PM »
Because the details are not remotely interesting to 99.9% of the population maybe?  You missed my point which is that if what has been going on in court is of such great interest to the general public then why no great coverage in the PT press either?

They may not be greatly interested in events in a Lisbon court but the case is now part of the nation's psyche, like Lucan or the Great Train Robbery. It's so rare a case, and was such a phenomenon in 2007, that it surely always will be.

The English papers know this, or why would they keep putting the case on their front pages?

But you're right, they're not greatly interested in the fight over a book that didn't actually say very much anyway (though the documentary is clearly more challenging).
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