Author Topic: Kate McCann admits in her book that private criminal investigations in Portugal were illegal.  (Read 128312 times)

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Offline Mr Moderator

I repeat for the sake of clarity...

Hiring a Spanish private investigator did not circumvent the illegality to which I have just described and corroborated by two of the highest ranking legal officers in Portugal at the time.  It makes no difference where the PI's were based, any interference in a Portuguese criminal inquiry was contrary to Law.

Had Método 3 limited their efforts to enquiries outside of Portugal you might have had a point but they did not.  They got involved directly in the search in Portugal.  Question is who pulled the plug on them, the Portuguese or the Spanish of the both of them jointly in collaboration?
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Offline Eleanor

I repeat for the sake of clarity...

Hiring a Spanish private investigator did not circumvent the illegality to which I have just described and corroborated by two of the highest ranking legal officers in Portugal at the time.  It makes no difference where the PI's were based, any interference in a Portuguese criminal inquiry was contrary to Law.

Had Método 3 limited their efforts to enquiries outside of Portugal you might have had a point but they did not.  They got involved directly in the search in Portugal.  Question is who pulled the plug on them, the Portuguese or the Spanish of the both of them jointly in collaboration?

Please don't do this to me.  This is obfuscating at it's worst.  Who pulled the plug on anyone?

Offline Carana

I repeat for the sake of clarity...

Hiring a Spanish private investigator did not circumvent the illegality to which I have just described and corroborated by two of the highest ranking legal officers in Portugal at the time.  It makes no difference where the PI's were based, any interference in a Portuguese criminal inquiry was contrary to Law.

Had Método 3 limited their efforts to enquiries outside of Portugal you might have had a point but they did not.  They got involved directly in the search in Portugal.  Question is who pulled the plug on them, the Portuguese or the Spanish of the both of them jointly in collaboration?

Could you elucidate?

What did Metodo 3 do that was illegal?

There are numerous PT posters here, but none have provided the relevant laws... and they've had months to check it out. The silence seems deafening.

Alfred R Jones

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Which part of Kate's comment are you obfuscating over Alfred?  Is it the bit where she admits that private investigations in Portugal were illegal or is it the bit where she states they employed them anyway to work in Portugal thinking that if their offices were in Barcelona then that was Ok?
I've read and re-read Kate's book and nowhere does she say "we knew hiring detectives in Portugal was illegal so we decided to hire a Spanish team and get them to break the law anyway" - perhaps you can shed some light?

Offline Eleanor


Jesus H.  I despair sometimes.  I have no quarrel with diverse opinions.  But please do stop feeding me bullshit.  I need go see Evidence, at least.

Offline Carana

I repeat for the sake of clarity...

Hiring a Spanish private investigator did not circumvent the illegality to which I have just described and corroborated by two of the highest ranking legal officers in Portugal at the time.  It makes no difference where the PI's were based, any interference in a Portuguese criminal inquiry was contrary to Law.

Had Método 3 limited their efforts to enquiries outside of Portugal you might have had a point but they did not.  They got involved directly in the search in Portugal.  Question is who pulled the plug on them, the Portuguese or the Spanish of the both of them jointly in collaboration?

Could you repeat who they were and what they actually said, please?

Wasn't one of them Carlos Anjos? If so, I wouldn't consider him to be objective. Soz.

Offline Eleanor

Could you repeat who they were and what they actually said, please?

Wasn't one of them Carlos Anjos? If so, I wouldn't consider him to be objective. Soz.

Soz?  Tee Hee.  How frightfully up market.

Offline Benice

Which part of Kate's comment are you obfuscating over Alfred?  Is it the bit where she admits that private investigations in Portugal were illegal or is it the bit where she states they employed them anyway to work in Portugal thinking that if their offices were in Barcelona then that was Ok?

Using the word 'admits' is misleading IMO.  That infers guilt of some kind - whereas Kate is simply stating why they employed a Spanish based company and not a Portugese one.     She is giving an explanation - not making a confession.

Common sense dictates that the fact that the PJ liaised with Metodo and accepted information about the case from them strongly indicates that no illegal conduct was considered to have taken place IMO.
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Alice Purjorick

Kate McCann admits in her book that private criminal investigations in Portugal were illegal.

I would imagine that if one argued on the basis of synonyms for "admit" as for example "acknowledge" or "reveal" it would be quite easy. That would of course remove the emotive quality of the word "admit" and eliminate the fun derived from it on this forum.
Come now Mr Jones ,sir, would you really wish to deprive yourself of the fun and opportunity of being able to make disparaging remarks about those holding an opposing view to your goodself ?
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Offline Eleanor

Kate McCann admits in her book that private criminal investigations in Portugal were illegal.

I would imagine that if one argued on the basis of synonyms for "admit" as for example "acknowledge" or "reveal" it would be quite easy. That would of course remove the emotive quality of the word "admit" and eliminate the fun derived from it on this forum.
Come now Mr Jones ,sir, would you really wish to deprive yourself of the fun and opportunity of being able to make disparaging remarks about those holding an opposing view to your goodself ?

Exactly.

Offline Brietta

Kate McCann admits in her book that private criminal investigations in Portugal were illegal.

I would imagine that if one argued on the basis of synonyms for "admit" as for example "acknowledge" or "reveal" it would be quite easy. That would of course remove the emotive quality of the word "admit" and eliminate the fun derived from it on this forum.
Come now Mr Jones ,sir, would you really wish to deprive yourself of the fun and opportunity of being able to make disparaging remarks about those holding an opposing view to your goodself ?

Why do you suppose it is a good idea for anyone to 'admit' to something which is patently untrue.
What are you offering? one or two years with time off for good behaviour?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Alice Purjorick

Why do you suppose it is a good idea for anyone to 'admit' to something which is patently untrue.
What are you offering? one or two years with time off for good behaviour?

You seem to be missing the whole point of my post, my dear. Whether by accident or design is not clear.
Please do lighten up a little, life on here is not real and merely provides an amusing diversion. The police are doing the real work.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Carana

You seem to be missing the whole point of my post, my dear. Whether by accident or design is not clear.
Please do lighten up a little, life on here is not real and merely provides an amusing diversion. The police are doing the real work.

An amusing diversion for what? For whom?

Offline Eleanor

An amusing diversion for what? For whom?

Oh, I think we all knew that, don't you?

Offline Angelo222

Reminds me of a worm on a hook, all that wriggling.  Bottom line is the thread title is absolutely spot on, KMcC knew employing private investigators to work in a criminal case in Portugal was against the law but did it anyway. Gosh, you will be suggesting next that Metodo 3 were a law unto themselves and did it all without the McCanns knowing about it. That dear friends is the real fantasy.  8(0(*
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