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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Smithman was carrying a child with long sleeved pyjamas.
« Reply #30 on: August 31, 2014, 08:25:35 PM »
In extracts printed by The Sun, she tells of how windy it was, and says she kept imagining how cold Madeleine would be in her short-sleeved  Eeyore pyjamas, and wishing she’d had her warmer Barbie pyjamas on.

Where are these Barbie pyjamas?
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Smithman was carrying a child with long sleeved pyjamas.
« Reply #31 on: August 31, 2014, 08:34:19 PM »
May 4, 2007

Jill Renwick, a family friend, told GMTV at 7:45am, on the morning of 04 May, that the distraught parents were certain that Madeleine had been abducted. "They were just watching the hotel room and going back every half-hour."

Speaking to the BBC later, Ms Renwick said ...

Ms Renwick described the missing girl as a "very pretty, very blonde three-year-old". Madeline was said to have been wearing white pyjamas when she went missing.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/may/04/markoliver
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Smithman was carrying a child with long sleeved pyjamas.
« Reply #32 on: August 31, 2014, 08:38:43 PM »
May 15, 2007

"Kate dressed Amelie in her sister's pyjamas and the baby said: 'Maddy's jammies. Where is Maddy?' But she is too young to understand. And how do you explain?

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/05/14/1178995077373.html?page=3

Seany got her red top?
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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Smithman was carrying a child with long sleeved pyjamas.
« Reply #33 on: August 31, 2014, 08:43:27 PM »
May 26, 2007
Witness Aoife Smith

She did not see the child's face because she was lying against the individual's left shoulder in a vertical position against the individual.

There was nothing covering the child, a comforter/blanket or any other piece of clothing but she only saw her back.

She was wearing light trousers, white or light pink, that may have been pyjamas.

She also had a light top, with long sleeves. She is not sure if the child's top was the same colour as her trousers, saying only that it was very light. The fabric was the same as the trousers. The material was lightweight/thin and could have been cotton.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Smithman was carrying a child with long sleeved pyjamas.
« Reply #34 on: August 31, 2014, 08:47:24 PM »
April 11, 2008

RECORD OF TAPE RECORDED INTERVIEW DAVID PAYNE

you know I can't remember exactly what, what you know the night attire, what the children were wearing but white was the predominant err colour

[Jane Tanner] definitely mentioned it to me you know after Madeleine had been abducted and you know on the, the following day before she’d actually mentioned it to Kate and there was a, a newspaper report, I think it was in the Telegraph err certainly one of the newspapers anyway, that was sort of describing err Madeleine’s pyjamas and, and err Jane said that’s not right, how did they get that, well she said you know, that in, I don’t know how they get that information anyway, my recollections were this was what she was wearing and described it you know differently you know to what the, the, the press had, and that was before she’d even seen Kate so you know, the strength of that argument is just absolutely overwhelming, you know given the time frame err you know of when Madeleine must have gone, gone, that you know and for her to have described in detail the pull ups at the bottom of the pyjamas err you know the colours, you know and the timing is just, you know well, so.

Amazingly Jane Tanner knew what pyjamas Madeleine was wearing. But wait......

I’ve never seen Madeleine in pyjamas at home and or anywhere so”. (JT Rog)
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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Lace

Re: Smithman was carrying a child with long sleeved pyjamas.
« Reply #35 on: September 01, 2014, 04:24:11 PM »
Aiofe also said the man was aged 20-30.

Martin Smith said the man wasn't a tourist.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Smithman was carrying a child with long sleeved pyjamas.
« Reply #36 on: September 02, 2014, 05:30:16 PM »
Notice how CW had a money shot of those long sleeved pyjamas, having previously shown Maddie dressed in short sleeves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=OZ8jmdWlB8Y#t=1431

The McCanns didn't do that in their reconstruction, infact, Kate said Smithman's child had nothing on her arms.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=fRQQWmpiO3s#t=293

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Offline Lace

Re: Smithman was carrying a child with long sleeved pyjamas.
« Reply #37 on: September 02, 2014, 07:22:22 PM »
Aoife says she didn't see the pyjama top properly as the mans arms were across it.    I wonder if she saw the top of the pyjama sleeve and presumed they were long sleeves.

Offline jassi

Re: Smithman was carrying a child with long sleeved pyjamas.
« Reply #38 on: September 04, 2014, 12:39:34 PM »
The facts are open to interpretation - as you are demonstrating.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Offline Brietta

Re: Smithman was carrying a child with long sleeved pyjamas.
« Reply #39 on: September 04, 2014, 12:43:57 PM »
Isn’t it interesting that not one of the Smith family statements we have seen concerning the man carrying the pyjama clad child actually saw the person’s face. 

Therefore they would have been unable to provide details which would have enabled an efit of the individual to be composed.

We know that Mrs Smith spoke to the person involved.

We know that Mrs Smith refused to alter her statement to back up her husband’s erroneous identification of that man.

We can therefore assume that she was the source of the very detailed efit.

If this is the case she or whoever provided the efit information is obviously a very observant witness who had a clear view of the individual and a clear view of the child.  Mrs Smith is reported as having asked if the child was asleep so she did look at her.

It is not outwith the bounds of probability that a description of the child and what she was wearing is contained within her statement; Madeleine’s mother has described the short sleeved PJs Madeleine was wearing; much nonsense has been spouted about Aoife saying the child was wearing a long sleeved top; we are not privy to Mrs Smith’s account ~ but a pound to a penny it will confirm that the child she saw was indeed wearing a short sleeved garment.

Might be worth remembering next time anyone posts rubbish - that we have not heard what Mrs Smith had to say and she might be saying something different from Aoife and as she certainly was when she firmly refuted her husband's later addition to his statement.
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Offline misty

Re: Smithman was carrying a child with long sleeved pyjamas.
« Reply #40 on: September 04, 2014, 01:46:22 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong - but didn't Snr Amaral state that the Smiths got the timing of their sighting wrong? I will look for the interview in which he said it.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Smithman was carrying a child with long sleeved pyjamas.
« Reply #41 on: September 04, 2014, 01:56:12 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong - but didn't Snr Amaral state that the Smiths got the timing of their sighting wrong? I will look for the interview in which he said it.

The yard know it was Smithman who was carrying Madeleine away. Redwood just can't help laughing when saying this sighting may be innocent  @)(++(* Possibly wearing pyjamas Redwood says.

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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Smithman was carrying a child with long sleeved pyjamas.
« Reply #42 on: September 04, 2014, 02:04:35 PM »
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Offline pegasus

Re: Smithman was carrying a child with long sleeved pyjamas.
« Reply #43 on: September 04, 2014, 09:03:10 PM »
IMO the long sleeves described by ASmith are a big indication that the carried girl she saw was not the missing girl.
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Offline Anna

Re: Smithman was carrying a child with long sleeved pyjamas.
« Reply #44 on: September 04, 2014, 09:45:28 PM »
IMO the long sleeves described by ASmith are a big indication that the carried girl she saw was not the missing girl.

I believe you may well be correct..........This child was not Maddie
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