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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Five-year-old ill child taken from hospital by parents.
« Reply #60 on: September 02, 2014, 10:27:48 PM »
it may well be that the parents are denying their son his best chance of life...it will be interesting what happens next

Offline VIXTE

Re: Five-year-old ill child taken from hospital by parents.
« Reply #61 on: September 03, 2014, 12:10:54 AM »
What a fantastic united family. Young sons well brought up, stable, polite and able to organise the huge petition and same time look after small siblings. I wish the best outcome for this great family!

If I got it right the little boy is still the ward of court and the parents still have no parental rights to make decisions about his further treatment?

I hope they would not bring him back to UK and treat him with the old fashioned radiation and chemo against the wishes of his parents?

Offline John

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« Reply #62 on: September 04, 2014, 08:11:12 PM »
I notice impediments are still being put in the family's way.  It beggars belief that even now the Kings are being obstructed in what they want in the best interest of their own child.  I wonder if these officials who have been responsible for what has happened over the last few days are as good with their own children?
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Five-year-old ill child taken from hospital by parents.
« Reply #63 on: September 05, 2014, 08:07:40 AM »
I notice impediments are still being put in the family's way.  It beggars belief that even now the Kings are being obstructed in what they want in the best interest of their own child.  I wonder if these officials who have been responsible for what has happened over the last few days are as good with their own children?

lets see what happens in court today....The father is on record as saying that the uk treatment would kill him or turn him into a vegetable..that is ridiculous..when Ashya was taken from hospital his life was at risk...the European Arrest Warrant was the only way of finding him quickly and get him to a hospital which is what was needed and happened. He needs chemo now which he is not getting...that isn't the doctors fault....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Five-year-old ill child taken from hospital by parents.
« Reply #64 on: September 05, 2014, 08:09:43 AM »
What a disgusting fiasco this has been.  But these people always go too far in the end.

The NHS should now just pay for that child's treatment abroad.

what about all the other children with brain tumours..we need to hear what his doctors have to say..at they moment they can't say a thing due to patient confidentality

Offline Eleanor

Re: Five-year-old ill child taken from hospital by parents.
« Reply #65 on: September 05, 2014, 09:09:59 AM »
what about all the other children with brain tumours..we need to hear what his doctors have to say..at they moment they can't say a thing due to patient confidentality

Having them arrested on a EAW and locked up was a bit over the top, don't you think.

Offline John

Re: Five-year-old ill child taken from hospital by parents.
« Reply #66 on: September 05, 2014, 02:12:24 PM »
lets see what happens in court today....The father is on record as saying that the uk treatment would kill him or turn him into a vegetable..that is ridiculous..when Ashya was taken from hospital his life was at risk...the European Arrest Warrant was the only way of finding him quickly and get him to a hospital which is what was needed and happened. He needs chemo now which he is not getting...that isn't the doctors fault....

Plenty of other parents interviewed over the last week have said the same thing that the mass chemo treatment killed their children.  The Kings did right imo, had they not done what they did then Ashya would not be getting Proton Therpy treatment and would have died or been left a vegetable.

The Southampton General doctors keep saying now that Ashya would have got the best treatment available.  The point being lost in all of this is, that their treatment was NOT THE BEST AVAILABLE ELSEWHERE.

Lets face it, the NHS is no longer the world-class service it once was.

 
« Last Edit: September 05, 2014, 02:47:06 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Five-year-old ill child taken from hospital by parents.
« Reply #67 on: September 05, 2014, 04:02:13 PM »
Having them arrested on a EAW and locked up was a bit over the top, don't you think.
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From what the doctors said the boy was at serious risk of death unless hospitalised and an EAW was the only way to find ashya quickly...the Spanish did not have to keep the parents in custody...why were they not bailed]

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Five-year-old ill child taken from hospital by parents.
« Reply #68 on: September 05, 2014, 04:05:50 PM »
Plenty of other parents interviewed over the last week have said the same thing that the mass chemo treatment killed their children.  The Kings did right imo, had they not done what they did then Ashya would not be getting Proton Therpy treatment and would have died or been left a vegetable.

The Southampton General doctors keep saying now that Ashya would have got the best treatment available.  The point being lost in all of this is, that their treatment was NOT THE BEST AVAILABLE ELSEWHERE.

Lets face it, the NHS is no longer the world-class service it once was.

First Ashya needs chemo first...it is designed to heal..not to kill

Parents could not have arranged alternative treatment until flat was sold...months

Who says proton therapy is the best treatment option in this case

Mills

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Re: Five-year-old ill child taken from hospital by parents.
« Reply #69 on: September 05, 2014, 07:39:45 PM »
First Ashya needs chemo first...it is designed to heal..not to kill

Parents could not have arranged alternative treatment until flat was sold...months

Who says proton therapy is the best treatment option in this case
he needed that chemo like a hole in the head poor kid so his parents took positive action to get him the treatment he deserves which just so happens to be in Prague

Offline julie

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« Reply #70 on: September 05, 2014, 07:47:45 PM »
he needed that chemo like a hole in the head poor kid so his parents took positive action to get him the treatment he deserves which just so happens to be in Prague
i so applaud them for doing the right thing and making a positive effort to get little ashya the help he needs  8((()*/ 8((()*/ 8((()*/

Offline Angelo222

Re: Five-year-old ill child taken from hospital by parents.
« Reply #71 on: September 05, 2014, 07:56:42 PM »
First Ashya needs chemo first...it is designed to heal..not to kill

Parents could not have arranged alternative treatment until flat was sold...months

Who says proton therapy is the best treatment option in this case

You obviously don't understand how the bog standard NHS treatment works Davel.  Don't you realise that it is a mass radiation treatment and kills cells in every part of the brain, both good and bad?  It is a second rate treatment and a cheap alternative to that offered in specialist centres such as the one in the Czech Republic. 
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Eleanor

Re: Five-year-old ill child taken from hospital by parents.
« Reply #72 on: September 06, 2014, 01:45:41 AM »

Do you know?  I can't even be bothered to talk about this.  I am so incensed that I am beyond reasonable discussion.

I don't actually care about what anyone might be able to do for this child.  I only care about who the f..k these people think they are when it comes to depriving the rights of his parents.

I have known about this shite for quite some time.  But it has to stop.

And No, I haven't said anything at all amazing.  Which could well be the problem.  How f..king dare they.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Five-year-old ill child taken from hospital by parents.
« Reply #73 on: September 07, 2014, 09:25:33 AM »
You obviously don't understand how the bog standard NHS treatment works Davel.  Don't you realise that it is a mass radiation treatment and kills cells in every part of the brain, both good and bad?  It is a second rate treatment and a cheap alternative to that offered in specialist centres such as the one in the Czech Republic.

This is what Ashya's consultant in the UK says...

However, Dr Peter Wilson, lead paediatrician at Southampton General Hospital, has insisted that Ashya’s best chance of survival is conventional radiotherapy.


Dr Wilson, who cared for Ashya in Britain, said the boy’s form of  cancer – called medulloblastoma – was not suitable for proton beam therapy because radiation was needed over a much wider area to kill all the cancerous cells.






Offline Angelo222

Re: Five-year-old ill child taken from hospital by parents.
« Reply #74 on: September 07, 2014, 01:33:07 PM »
Davel also appears to have a problem with the King family taking 5 year old Ashya out of hospital in order to get specialist treatment in another country.  Puzzling??
« Last Edit: September 07, 2014, 02:34:16 PM by Angelo222 »
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!