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Offline Brietta

Re: Investigation into McCann internet trolls launched by police
« Reply #270 on: October 09, 2014, 03:06:27 PM »
Trolling on social media: What does the law say?
By Amelia Butterly Newsbeat reporter
6 October 2014
From the section Technology
Brenda Leyland was said to use the handle @sweepyface on Twitter
Brenda Leyland, the 63-year-old woman accused of trolling the family of Madeleine McCann, has been found dead in a hotel.
Her body was found days after she was confronted outside her home by a Sky News reporter.
Mrs Leyland's Twitter account - which has been deleted - did not directly target the McCanns, who have "no significant presence" on social media.
Many of her messages had the hashtag #mccanns, making them easy to find.
One tweet read: "#mccann To Kate and Gerry, you will be hated by millions for the rest of your miserable, evil, conniving lives, have a nice day!"
What is 'trolling'?
Broadly speaking, trolling covers a variety of social media posts, from cheeky provocation, right through to abuse and violent threats.
Dr Arthur Cassidy, a psychologist who specialises in social media, said typically, trolls seek and enjoy a response from their victims.
He said Mrs Leyland's Twitter messages had been "unusual".
"Her whole repertoire of trolling is slightly different from those of well-seasoned trolls because of her uniqueness and the way she has done this," he said.
"It would signify to me that she has been quite a novice at this."
What kinds of messages could be prosecuted?
Gerry and Kate McCann's daughter Madeleine went missing in 2007 while on holiday in Portugal
According to the Crown Prosecution Service, social media messages which "specifically target an individual or individuals and which may constitute harassment or stalking" could be a criminal offence.
Questions have come up about whether or not Mrs Leyland's messages could be considered to "specifically target" the McCann family.
Posts which also make a "credible threat of violence" against a person or property, may also be prosecuted.
There is also a possibility of "grossly offensive, indecent, obscene or false" messages also falling foul of the law.
People under the age of 18 are unlikely to be prosecuted as children "may not appreciate the potential harm and seriousness of their communications".
What about freedom of speech?
Brenda Leyland's body was found days after she was confronted outside her home by a Sky News reporter
The CPS advises a "high threshold" for prosecuting social media users under the Malicious Communications Act 1988.
"Just because the content expressed in the communication is in bad taste, controversial or unpopular, and may cause offence to individuals or a specific community, this is not in itself sufficient reason to engage the criminal law," the guidelines add.
Posts must be more than "banter or humour" for prosecution to go ahead.
What are the potential penalties for trolling?
Peter Nunn was found guilty of sending abusive tweets
Last month Peter Nunn, 33, from Bristol, was sent to prison for 18 weeks after being found guilty of trolling Labour politician Stella Creasy over her campaign to put Jane Austen on the £10 note.
He sent what were viewed as "menacing" messages to the Walthamstow MP.
The judge also imposed a restraining order, preventing him from contacting either Ms Creasy or Caroline Criado-Perez, who began the Jane Austen campaign.
In 2011, Sean Duffy from Reading was also jailed for 18 weeks after he mocked dead children online.
Liam Stacey of Pontypridd was sentenced to 56 days in prison after he made racist remarks on Twitter about footballer Fabrice Muamba.

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A pimply schoolchild making inappropriate communications using social media ‘for a laugh’ can possibly be excused on the grounds that they don’t know any better. 

Adults doing so, then joining organised campaigns directed at particular individuals are indulging in unacceptable behaviour. 

The person printing out a hateful missive in green ink has long been considered to display aberrant behaviour; the anonymous person using social media to post hate and vitriol, particularly the ones who join a pack, are no different from the dysfunctional poison pen writer of old.

It is beyond my understanding that there are those who condone the treatment of the McCanns and I firmly believe that the time is long past when action should have been taken against them if it was determined the law had been broken.

We have all viewed communications which could be considered to fall into that category.

The compilation of the dossier containing examples is long overdue but imo should have been carried out by the police years ago.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Anna

Re: Investigation into McCann internet trolls launched by police
« Reply #271 on: October 09, 2014, 03:24:41 PM »
A pimply schoolchild making inappropriate communications using social media ‘for a laugh’ can possibly be excused on the grounds that they don’t know any better. 

Adults doing so, then joining organised campaigns directed at particular individuals are indulging in unacceptable behaviour. 

The person printing out a hateful missive in green ink has long been considered to display aberrant behaviour; the anonymous person using social media to post hate and vitriol, particularly the ones who join a pack, are no different from the dysfunctional poison pen writer of old.

It is beyond my understanding that there are those who condone the treatment of the McCanns and I firmly believe that the time is long past when action should have been taken against them if it was determined the law had been broken.

We have all viewed communications which could be considered to fall into that category.

The compilation of the dossier containing examples is long overdue but imo should have been carried out by the police years ago.

I agree. Too little too late, as seen in many cases of abuse. Hopefully people will now take note of the possible consequences of their actions, when using social Media sites to attack innocent victims.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

ferryman

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Re: Investigation into McCann internet trolls launched by police
« Reply #272 on: October 09, 2014, 04:08:20 PM »
I have often wondered what the reaction would be if (God forbid!) Kate or Gerry were to be pushed over the edge.

I hope I never find out ...

Silly me.

Just answered my own question.

We'd be swamped with a tidal wave of nauseous bilge about the weight of guilt ...
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Offline Anna

Re: Investigation into McCann internet trolls launched by police
« Reply #273 on: October 09, 2014, 05:00:24 PM »
I have often wondered what the reaction would be if (God forbid!) Kate or Gerry were to be pushed over the edge.

I hope I never find out ...

Silly me.

Just answered my own question.We'd be swamped with a tidal wave of nauseous bilge about the weight of guilt ...


good question though..... Food for thought.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Investigation into McCann internet trolls launched by police
« Reply #274 on: October 09, 2014, 05:07:06 PM »
I have often wondered what the reaction would be if (God forbid!) Kate or Gerry were to be pushed over the edge.

I hope I never find out ...

Silly me.

Just answered my own question.

We'd be swamped with a tidal wave of nauseous bilge about the weight of guilt ...


And perhaps that'd be true.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Investigation into McCann internet trolls launched by police
« Reply #275 on: October 09, 2014, 05:16:05 PM »
CBS News 5th October 2007.

KM: "It really isn't easy," coping. "Some days are better than others. ... There's days when you think, 'I can't do this anymore,' and you just want to press a button, and we're all gone, and it's all finished, and we're all together and gone. Wherever. But you can't, you know. Just occasionally you'll have a -- if you're having a really bad day, which we do. And you can't help but think that."

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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Investigation into McCann internet trolls launched by police
« Reply #276 on: October 09, 2014, 05:20:20 PM »
I have often wondered what the reaction would be if (God forbid!) Kate or Gerry were to be pushed over the edge.

I hope I never find out ...

Silly me.

Just answered my own question.

We'd be swamped with a tidal wave of nauseous bilge about the weight of guilt ...
It would certainly take the fun out of it for the "sceptics" if the objects of their hatred ceased to exist.  Sadly I have a feeling that the McCanns will have trolls to deal with for the rest of their lives, even if and when an abductor is apprehended and banged up. If the parents of April Jones still receive anonymous abuse, what hope for the McCanns?

Offline Brietta

Re: Investigation into McCann internet trolls launched by police
« Reply #277 on: October 09, 2014, 05:40:39 PM »
It would certainly take the fun out of it for the "sceptics" if the objects of their hatred ceased to exist.  Sadly I have a feeling that the McCanns will have trolls to deal with for the rest of their lives, even if and when an abductor is apprehended and banged up. If the parents of April Jones still receive anonymous abuse, what hope for the McCanns?

Sadly, I think you are right.

Using the internet is just too convenient for these anonymous cowards ... they are really running the risk of ruining the privilege of free speech for all of us in the future.  They may be the vehicle for draconian legislation or controls which will be used to prevent true whistle blowers with something of value to put into the public domain to be curtailed.  All so that spiteful, nasty games can be played out.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

ferryman

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Re: Investigation into McCann internet trolls launched by police
« Reply #278 on: October 09, 2014, 05:46:56 PM »
It would certainly take the fun out of it for the "sceptics" if the objects of their hatred ceased to exist.  Sadly I have a feeling that the McCanns will have trolls to deal with for the rest of their lives, even if and when an abductor is apprehended and banged up. If the parents of April Jones still receive anonymous abuse, what hope for the McCanns?

Even if Madeleine were to be found alive, some 'sceptics' would make it their business to try to poison the relationship between Madeleine and her family ...

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Investigation into McCann internet trolls launched by police
« Reply #279 on: October 09, 2014, 05:54:37 PM »
Even if Madeleine were to be found alive, some 'sceptics' would make it their business to try to poison the relationship between Madeleine and her family ...

Which 'sceptics'?

Any in particular or were you just trying to demonise the enemy on the whole?
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Investigation into McCann internet trolls launched by police
« Reply #280 on: October 09, 2014, 06:01:00 PM »
Which 'sceptics'?

Any in particular or were you just trying to demonise the enemy on the whole?

Well if we turn this on its head, hands up those who think the supporters will pack up their tents and go home should Madeleine be found alive and well.
Nah! they will just drift off elsewhere to exhibit their lack of tolerance and boast of their high intellects.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

ferryman

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Re: Investigation into McCann internet trolls launched by police
« Reply #281 on: October 09, 2014, 06:04:38 PM »
Well if we turn this on its head, hands up those who think the supporters will pack up their tents and go home should Madeleine be found alive and well.
Nah! they will just drift off elsewhere to exhibit their lack of tolerance and boast of their high intellects.

Conceding defeat with ill-grace?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Investigation into McCann internet trolls launched by police
« Reply #282 on: October 09, 2014, 06:06:04 PM »
Conceding defeat with ill-grace?
Hardly I think she died in 2007.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline VIXTE

Re: Investigation into McCann internet trolls launched by police
« Reply #283 on: October 09, 2014, 11:02:54 PM »
Even if Madeleine were to be found alive, some 'sceptics' would make it their business to try to poison the relationship between Madeleine and her family ...

Not only that. I believe there would be a petition claiming that is not her and urging the MPs to DNA test her.
And then if it was proven that it is really her there would be a petition urging the MPs to investigate the McCanns for hiding her..

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Investigation into McCann internet trolls launched by police
« Reply #284 on: October 09, 2014, 11:10:30 PM »
It's very obvious that they're now digging to corroborate the dog alerts.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.