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Offline Mr Moderator

Re: Investigation into McCann internet trolls launched by police
« Reply #285 on: October 10, 2014, 12:02:50 PM »
Please keep to the topic headings as posts which stray are liable to be remove or reassigned to other threads.
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Offline faithlilly

Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Brietta

Re: Investigation into McCann internet trolls launched by police
« Reply #287 on: October 11, 2014, 09:08:27 PM »

What made Kate and Gerry McCann the object of so much anger?

The thing all parents dread, the McCanns experienced. Perhaps it is their defiance in the face of such dismal fortune that provokes their abusers

Deborah Orr
The Guardian, Friday 10 October 2014

It’s been more than seven years since Kate and Gerry McCann informed the British media that their four-year-old, Madeleine, had gone missing from her bed in a holiday resort in Portugal. Their hope was that publicity would help them to find their daughter. It didn’t. It hasn’t. But still the headlines come.

The latest of many disturbing postscripts to this disturbing story is the death of 63-year-old Brenda Leyland. Her body was found in a hotel room in Leicester a few days after a reporter from Sky News doorstepped her. Film was broadcast of Leyland reacting to Martin Brunt’s suggestion that she was one of a number of people whose abusive messages about the McCanns had been handed to the police. Leyland’s high-profile exposure has, inevitably, been directly linked to her suicide.

One is not supposed to think of “Twitter trolls” as fragile. But this one was, apparently. Her anonymous tweets talked tough. They proclaimed her hatred of the McCanns. She took particular umbrage to what she saw as the couple’s publicity-seeking behaviour. There’s sad irony in the fact that, when publicity found Leyland, it seems to have quickly destroyed her.

Maybe Leyland knew that, were she to be subjected to a fraction of the notoriety that has been piled on the McCanns, she would indeed be destroyed. Maybe that’s why she saw the couple as so different to her that she could not summon any sympathy, only hostility.

Why Madeleine’s disappearance attracted so much interest has never been much of a puzzle. Any parent who has lost their child, even for a few minutes, is familiar with their own panic-stricken voice of fear, asking that Grimm’s fairy tale question: “What if she’s gone? What if you never see her again?” The thing all parents dread, the McCanns experienced. Why this, the most dismal of ill fortune, made the McCanns, for so many people, the object of suspicion, contempt and anger, rather than empathy – that’s a more difficult question to answer.

It’s often said that the McCanns attracted criticism because they were middle-class – with a sense of entitlement that made them not just careless about their own daughter’s welfare but also expectant that the world would help them get her back. Essentially though, that criticism really amounts to this: “We don’t like the McCanns because they clearly didn’t live their lives for ever in fear that the worst could easily happen to them.” What’s more, when the worst did come, the couple remained hopeful, purposeful, even defiant.

What really irked people about the McCanns, from the beginning, was essentially their massive reserves of emotional resilience. Kate McCann was criticised for not looking broken – for brushing her hair and putting on makeup. Gerry McCann raised eyebrows because he remained articulate. They exercised, which absolutely scandalised people. Sure, that was a sensible thing to do. But what kind of monster is sensible under such pressure? Even that decision in those first hours – not to wait passively for news, but actively to go out and create it – this pair chose fight, not flight, from the start.

The McCanns continue to fight. Many people think they should have given up long ago. Some perverse people even argue that Leyland’s death is on the conscience of the McCanns, because they won’t shrug their shoulders and accept that some people think very, very badly of them. The McCanns say their twin sons [sic] are old enough now to see all the awful things that are said about their parents. They cannot accept that this is something they have to put up with. No enemy is large enough to intimidate the couple, not even the vastness of the internet.

By contrast, there’s no flight more complete than suicide. Is that why Leyland and others have developed such great animus against the McCanns? Do people simply find the sheer stubborn courage of these people so unbelievable that they mistrust it, even despise it? Can the root of all this McCann hatred be people seeing two parents roaring for justice, attacking those who would deny them it, and thinking: “I couldn’t do that, no way. But I can’t accept they’re better than me because they can. I prefer to believe they’re worse.”

Many people, when discussing trolling on the internet, see it as a manifestation of misogyny. Others, who don’t like this idea, insist that women can be trolls – vicious trolls – as well. Leyland, her choice of hate figures and her awful demise appear to prove their point far more graphically than anyone would wish.

Yet if you start thinking of trolls as people who resent strong people because they make them feel inadequate, then you see that trolling would indeed be an activity particularly attractive to misogynists, who prefer to think of women as weak precisely so they can think of themselves as strong by comparison.

The McCanns were strong enough to make sure that their own voices – not the stereotyped voice of the universal grieving parent – were heard. Trolls gain strength from making their voices heard too, but they’re not strong enough to speak in their own name. Expose a troll’s name, and you expose their fears and vulnerability. Such people, it appears, may sometimes be far more fearful and vulnerable than the people who anger them so greatly.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/10/what-made-kate-gerry-mccann-object-of-so-much-anger
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Investigation into McCann internet trolls launched by police
« Reply #288 on: October 11, 2014, 09:14:11 PM »
'this pair chose fight, not flight, from the start.'

Until they were made suspects, then they chose flight.
Christian Brueckner Fan Club

Offline faithlilly

Re: Investigation into McCann internet trolls launched by police
« Reply #289 on: October 11, 2014, 09:17:22 PM »
"Even that decision in those first hours – not to wait passively for news, but actively to go out and create it "

Ain't that the truth !! Absurd sighting anyone ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline John

Re: Investigation into McCann internet trolls launched by police
« Reply #290 on: October 12, 2014, 12:47:43 AM »
'this pair chose fight, not flight, from the start.'

Until they were made suspects, then they chose flight.

After initially saying they would never leave Portugal without Madeleine. Pity about the searching though.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2014, 01:04:53 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

stephen25000

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Re: Investigation into McCann internet trolls launched by police
« Reply #291 on: October 12, 2014, 08:41:52 AM »
Want more clues to find trolls ?

Just look on ......

Where the 'myths' are.

Where 'just another thoughts' are.

Where the 'purple place' is.

Where 'david bret is god'.

Not even counting twiiter and facebook.

OH SO MANY................. %£&)**# %£&)**# %£&)**#


Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Investigation into McCann internet trolls launched by police
« Reply #292 on: October 12, 2014, 09:48:57 AM »
BHH does say that "the family" handed a dossier to the police.  He then waffled about the Met team and leicester police. 

stephen25000

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Re: Investigation into McCann internet trolls launched by police
« Reply #293 on: October 12, 2014, 09:49:57 AM »
I have...he does not mention Kate or Gerry

He said the family, i.e. members of the mccann family.

What part don't you get ?

and even in your mind do you seriously imagine they didn't know about the dossier, after all their complaints about people trolling them ?


Offline Mr Gray

Re: Investigation into McCann internet trolls launched by police
« Reply #294 on: October 12, 2014, 09:52:06 AM »
He said the family, i.e. members of the mccann family.

What part don't you get ?

and even in your mind do you seriously imagine they didn't know about the dossier, after all their complaints about people trolling them ?

Tell me what is wrong with the family handing evidence to the police where a crime may have been committed

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Investigation into McCann internet trolls launched by police
« Reply #295 on: October 12, 2014, 10:49:21 AM »

There are trolls on the internet - fact

They post to cause trouble / hurt - fact

People who troll in the accepted sense of the word ("rainne" is an example) must expect to get visit from the authorites at some point.

where do you draw the line?

Would you classify me as a troll?

Would you classify yourself as a troll?

« Last Edit: October 14, 2014, 02:25:15 PM by John »

stephen25000

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Re: Investigation into McCann internet trolls launched by police
« Reply #296 on: October 12, 2014, 10:54:19 AM »
There are trolls on the internet - fact

They post to cause trouble / hurt - fact

People who troll in the accepted sense of the word ("rainne" is an example) must expect to get visit from the authorites at some point.

where do you draw the line?

Would you classify me as a troll?

Would you classify yourself as a troll?

Define the term troll.

By some terms kate mccann and her comments are those of a troll, and you know the ones I mean,as they have been put in the public arena.


Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Investigation into McCann internet trolls launched by police
« Reply #297 on: October 12, 2014, 11:21:24 AM »
Define the term troll.

By some terms kate mccann and her comments are those of a troll, and you know the ones I mean,as they have been put in the public arena.

So you now think that Kate McCann is a troll? 

In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

Really? 

Offline Carana

Re: Investigation into McCann internet trolls launched by police
« Reply #298 on: October 12, 2014, 12:09:55 PM »
Define the term troll.

By some terms kate mccann and her comments are those of a troll, and you know the ones I mean,as they have been put in the public arena.

What's your definition of a troll?

Offline Brietta

Re: Investigation into McCann internet trolls launched by police
« Reply #299 on: October 12, 2014, 02:28:58 PM »
Rainne the classic troll with eclectic taste to post bile about Muslims – Jews – Mormons; in fact anyone who took her fancy is not alone.  His/her saving grace may be that the lunacy was confined to its gang of one ... leaving the organised trolling to the real bullies of this world pretending concern for "maddy".

Doesn’t take much to get the McCann trolls going though. 

Anyone old enough to remember the BBC CW programme which was hate bombed by the troof seekers, you know the ones who express anxiety for Madeleine? 

Someone must recall the spite directed at the programme launching the request for information about Madeleine McCann.  The troofseekers are really concerned about what happened to that little girl ... absolutely desperate. 

Nobody here recall the campaign to get the broadcast pulled or the campaign to tie up the phone lines with their prepared scripts … just in case there was someone out there who might have had valuable information for the police trying to get through.
Must have forgotten their stated aims of being all for Madeleine for a couple of seconds ... which is how they justify their trolling of her family.  So not really for a couple of seconds then ... much more like over seven years.



Twitter trolls attack the McCanns with sick messages and taunts in run-up to Crimewatch appeal

    The parents received a torrent of abuse on Twitter and on internet forums
    One troll tweeted a  picture of the McCanns as the Moors murderers
    Police say they are monitoring internet for abusive messages


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2460017/Madeleine-McCann-Crimewatch-appeal-Twitter-trolls-attack-Kate-Gerry.html
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....