Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.

[ferryman]

"Trial by media," then?

Is that what is meant by "ethical" and "legal?"

If the police won`t shape up ...........get the press in to sort it!

Turn the question another way.

Should vile and repulsive trolls of the McCanns be exempt from challenge on their behaviour for fear that challenging the frail, delicate, fragile wilting petals (when it comes to their own rights!) might be driven to suicide by being challenged on their objectionable behaviour?

[Carew]

Turn the question another way.

Should vile and repulsive trolls of the McCanns be exempt from challenge on their behaviour for fear that challenging the frail, delicate, fragile wilting petals (when it comes to their own rights!) might be driven to suicide by being challenged on their objectionable behaviour?

So you believe in "trial by media" ..........whether the police decide to bring charges or not, against people you decide are vile trolls ?

Why bother to hand your dossier to the police in the first place then?

[ferryman]

So you believe in "trial by media" ..........whether the police decide to bring charges or not, against people you decide are vile trolls ?

Why bother to hand your dossier to the police in the first place then?

Trial by media?

There was no trial.

Brenda told Martin Brunt that she considered it her right to hound and persecute the McCanns.

No trial.

(Admitted) guilt.

The question is whether such people should be challenged on their objectionable behaviour.

They should be, so long as any challenges don't interfere with intended trials.

[Jean-Pierre]

So you believe in "trial by media" ..........whether the police decide to bring charges or not, against people you decide are vile trolls ?

Why bother to hand your dossier to the police in the first place then?

Do you have evidence / proof that Brunt doorstepping Brenda Leyland was solely as a result of the press being sent a dossier?  And that Leyland had no prior knowledge that Brunt was "onto" her?

As for "trial by media" - I wonld not expect you to see the irony of that remark. 

[Carew]

Do you have evidence / proof that Brunt doorstepping Brenda Leyland was solely as a result of the press being sent a dossier?  And that Leyland had no prior knowledge that Brunt was "onto" her?

As for "trial by media" - I wonld not expect you to see the irony of that remark.

Erm..........It was the irony of a raft of posts defending as "ethical, thoroughly justified and legal" the attitude of McCann supporters and the media towards those who have not been charged with any offence..................whilst at the same time bleating on behalf of the McCanns when it`s perceived they are similarly wronged, which prompted my use of it !

(Never mind.........)

I know that many are sensitive about the dossier and seem to seek to establish distance between it and the Sky News confrontation...........hence the rest of your comments.

[Jean-Pierre]

Erm..........It was the irony of a raft of posts defending as "ethical, thoroughly justified and legal" the attitude of McCann supporters and the media towards those who have not been charged with any offence..................whilst at the same time bleating on behalf of the McCanns when it`s perceived they are similarly wronged, which prompted my use of it !

(Never mind.........)

I know that many are sensitive about the dossier and seem to seek to establish distance between it and the Sky News confrontation...........hence the rest of your comments.

Not at all.  It was a very simple question. 

We are both members of a forum which, in discussing the case of the disappearance of Madeleine, are in effect, egaging in "trail by media". 

And do I take it that your deflection of my question suggests do not have any evidence that Martin Brunt's doorstepping of the unfortunate Ms Leyland was as a direct consequence of the dossier presented to the Met, and subsequently passed on to Leicester police. 

Or was it as a result of direct contact with Martin Brunt.   

[ferryman]

Erm..........It was the irony of a raft of posts defending as "ethical, thoroughly justified and legal" the attitude of McCann supporters and the media towards those who have not been charged with any offence..................whilst at the same time bleating on behalf of the McCanns when it`s perceived they are similarly wronged, which prompted my use of it !

(Never mind.........)

I know that many are sensitive about the dossier and seem to seek to establish distance between it and the Sky News confrontation...........hence the rest of your comments.

Brenda was guilty of the behaviour.

The question of whether the behaviour constituted a criminal offence is a separate question.

[stephen25000]

Not at all.  It was a very simple question. 

We are both members of a forum which, in discussing the case of the disappearance of Madeleine, are in effect, egaging in "trail by media". 

And do I take it that your deflection of my question suggests do not have any evidence that Martin Brunt's doorstepping of the unfortunate Ms Leyland was as a direct consequence of the dossier presented to the Met, and subsequently passed on to Leicester police. 

Or was it as a result of direct contact with Martin Brunt.

'....suggests do not have any evidence that Martin Brunt's doorstepping of the unfortunate Ms Leyland was as a direct consequence of the dossier presented to the Met, and subsequently passed on to Leicester police.'

The dossier presented to Sky was a separate event from it's compilers, who had a direct tie-in with the mccanns themselves, which puts to bed the myth that the mccanns had no contacts with their 'supporters'.

[Jean-Pierre]

'....suggests do not have any evidence that Martin Brunt's doorstepping of the unfortunate Ms Leyland was as a direct consequence of the dossier presented to the Met, and subsequently passed on to Leicester police.'

The dossier presented to Sky was a separate event from it's compilers, who had a direct tie-in with the mccanns themselves, which puts to bed the myth that the mccanns had no contacts with their 'supporters'.

Are you saying, Stephen, that the very first contact Brenda Leyland had with Martin Brunt was when she was "doorstepped" by him as she was going out? 

[stephen25000]

Are you saying, Stephen, that the very first contact Brenda Leyland had with Martin Brunt was when she was "doorstepped" by him as she was going out?

Nope.

However, and undeniably the filming outside and then inside her  house brought humiliation, and SY weren't even investigating her.

The behaviour as I said of Sky, bunt, and the compilers of the dossier, needs to be held to account.

[stephen25000]

Anyone recognize who said this ?



'Show me where I stalked, chased. there was none of that.'

[Jean-Pierre]

Nope.

However, and undeniably the filming outside and then inside her  house brought humiliation, and SY weren't even investigating her.

The behaviour as I said of Sky, bunt, and the compilers of the dossier, needs to be held to account.

If she found it humilaiting, then so be it.  It was a risk she took when she chose to use a public forum to air her views. 

Dont forget, 4000 "tweets" on a public forum intended to humilate and hurt her targets.  Maybe Brunt could be forgiven for thinking that if she could dish it out, she could take it.

Hows your little "dossier" going, btw? 

[stephen25000]

If she found it humilaiting, then so be it.  It was a risk she took when she chose to use a public forum to air her views. 

Dont forget, 4000 "tweets" on a public forum intended to humilate and hurt her targets.  Maybe Brunt could be forgiven for thinking that if she could dish it out, she could take it.

Hows your little "dossier" going, btw?

Amended.

[misty]

It would appear that the police may well have liaised with Twitter as I see that a few prolific posters have had accounts suspended or been banned from making remarks about the McCanns.
Perhaps a Twitter user, maybe Stephen, would care to tell us exactly what has happened.

[Brietta]

Just like benice  you can't  be bothered to read through my posts  to find the links already given, as you failed to do yourself  last night.

and let's not forget not long ago you accused me of providing false links to BBC as regards BHH.

Please provide a link with that accusation.

When you are unable to do so ... please amend your post immediately.