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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #300 on: November 02, 2014, 05:25:52 PM »
Let's see what happens at the inquest.

The journalist in this case went to Brenda Leyland on the basis of a lie, I.e. the police were investigating her.

They weren't of course.

Now I'lll throw this in your court.

What would you do if Sky News had harassed your mother and subsequently she had died  after considerable intrusion and public identification ?
 
and who gave the dossier writers the authority to do what they did ?

It  certainly wasn't altruism as they are die hard McCann backers.

Quite simply most mothers would not make the sort of posts Brenda did and if they did...then they deserve to be challenged

Offline Benice

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #301 on: November 02, 2014, 05:26:42 PM »
It is the compilers of the dossier and the assorted trolls associated with that who need to watch out sadie.

Their activities led to Sky News questioning a woman who had not been charged with any crime or investigated for one.

But isn't that the eternal excuse of many sceptics?   i.e.'' We are only asking questions''.   'We are entited to'.

How hypocritical to claim 'asking questions' as a 'right' for themselves, but infer that it is a crime if anyone else does the same to them.

A typical example of the warped logic of some sceptics IMO.

« Last Edit: November 02, 2014, 05:31:11 PM by Benice »
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Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #302 on: November 02, 2014, 05:43:11 PM »
Let's see what happens at the inquest.

The journalist in this case went to Brenda Leyland on the basis of a lie, I.e. the police were investigating her.

They weren't of course.

Now I'lll throw this in your court.

What would you do if Sky News had harassed your mother and subsequently she had died  after considerable intrusion and public identification ?
 
and who gave the dossier writers the authority to do what they did ?

It  certainly wasn't altruism as they are die hard McCann backers.

I will as usual try to actually answer your question, instead of employing your preferred tactics of answering with a question or diverting. 

I would be extremely upset, that is without question. 

I would be upset on four counts:

Grief at having lost my parent.

I would look for someone to blame, and most likely with anger at Brunt and sky news.

Then anger that she had (I am assuming) taken her own life, alone in a hotel room.  That would be anger at her - suicide is an incredibly selfish act, more often than not designed to punish the living.  I wonder who she was punishing?   

And confusion and bafflement that she had such an incredible secret obsession.  4500.  That is four and half thousand tweets about a family she did not know.  That is almost as many as your posts on here. 
_____________

If her name was on the dossier, and that dossier had been handed to the Met and to Leicester police, then it is technically correct that she was being investigated.

Finally, who gave the compliers of the dossier authority?  The common law.   

What do you imagine is going to happen at the inquest?  The dossier compilers cross examined in the dock with plod waiting with handcuffs to "take them down"?  If you you have watching far too much TV.


Offline faithlilly

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #303 on: November 03, 2014, 03:57:00 PM »
On a more interesting note it appears, according to a letter from the coroner overseeing Brenda's death, that there is an ongoing police investigation into the matter. Is this usual in an apparent suicide ?

It would appear the McCanns may indeed have instigated a police investigation into trolls, though perhaps not the one they envisioned.
« Last Edit: November 07, 2014, 02:09:22 PM by Mr Moderator »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Carana

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #304 on: November 03, 2014, 04:32:17 PM »
On a more interesting note it appears, according to a letter from the coroner overseeing Brenda's death, that there is an ongoing police investigation into the matter. Is this usual in an apparent suicide ?

It would appear the McCanns may indeed have instigated a police investigation into trolls, though perhaps not the one they envisioned.

What does this letter say and to whom?
« Last Edit: November 07, 2014, 02:09:55 PM by Mr Moderator »

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #305 on: November 03, 2014, 05:03:49 PM »
On a more interesting note it appears, according to a letter from the coroner overseeing Brenda's death, that there is an ongoing police investigation into the matter. Is this usual in an apparent suicide ?

It would appear the McCanns may indeed have instigated a police investigation into trolls, though perhaps not the one they envisioned.

Is this the reply to "Mr Rees" by any chance?   8(8-))

The inquest wil confine itself to 4 questions:

 Identity of the deceased
 Place of death
 Time of death
 How the deceased came by his/her death

As this is a case of suicide the person who found her will be called as witness, as well as any other witnesses or reports the coroner may require. 

The role of the coroners court is quite limied  So those expecting the "dossier compliers" or the McCanns to be cross examined are going to be sadly disappointed.   
« Last Edit: November 07, 2014, 02:11:33 PM by Mr Moderator »

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #306 on: November 03, 2014, 05:26:47 PM »
Is this the reply to "Mr Rees" by any chance?   8(8-))

The inquest wil confine itself to 4 questions:

 Identity of the deceased
 Place of death
 Time of death
 How the deceased came by his/her death

As this is a case of suicide the person who found her will be called as witness, as well as any other witnesses or reports the coroner may require. 

The role of the coroners court is quite limied  So those expecting the "dossier compliers" or the McCanns to be cross examined are going to be sadly disappointed.

Why don't you just post a link to the Ministry of Justices guide to the duties and objectives of The Coroners Court?
Oh I did that about a week ago and still people across the board wish to misdirect.
It is like trying to herd cats round here.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #307 on: November 03, 2014, 05:31:57 PM »
Why don't you just post a link to the Ministry of Justices guide to the duties and objectives of The Coroners Court?
Oh I did that about a week ago and still people across the board wish to misdirect.
It is like trying to herd cats round here.

I know you did.  And that is why I tried to simplify. 

More like herding peacocks. 

The law in practice is much less exciting that it is on the telly.   

Offline faithlilly

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #308 on: November 03, 2014, 06:07:45 PM »
Is this the reply to "Mr Rees" by any chance?   8(8-))

The inquest wil confine itself to 4 questions:

 Identity of the deceased
 Place of death
 Time of death
 How the deceased came by his/her death

As this is a case of suicide the person who found her will be called as witness, as well as any other witnesses or reports the coroner may require. 

The role of the coroners court is quite limied  So those expecting the "dossier compliers" or the McCanns to be cross examined are going to be sadly disappointed.

I'm sorry JP but where did I say this wasn't the case ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #309 on: November 03, 2014, 06:52:12 PM »
One of the more prominent "sceptics" is trying to drum up support for an Anonymous march on Parliament in Brenda's memory - I trust you've all cleared your diaries and bought a train ticket for London on Wednesday?

stephen25000

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Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #310 on: November 03, 2014, 07:52:00 PM »
One of the more prominent "sceptics" is trying to drum up support for an Anonymous march on Parliament in Brenda's memory - I trust you've all cleared your diaries and bought a train ticket for London on Wednesday?

Will the dossier compilers be there to put a face to their anonyomous material ?

Or will they be hiding behind what they think is anonymity ?

 %£&)**# %£&)**# %£&)**#

Offline pinkblossoms

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #311 on: November 03, 2014, 08:36:39 PM »
Will the dossier compilers be there to put a face to their anonyomous material ?

Or will they be hiding behind what they think is anonymity ?

 %£&)**# %£&)**# %£&)**#

(Or will they be hiding behind what they think is anonymity)


like Brenda did

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #312 on: November 03, 2014, 08:45:22 PM »
(Or will they be hiding behind what they think is anonymity)


like Brenda did

And like you do here ducky?
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #313 on: November 03, 2014, 08:46:20 PM »
(Or will they be hiding behind what they think is anonymity)


like Brenda did


Pink, people think you and I are the same person!...
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner's Court reconvenes on 20 March 2015.
« Reply #314 on: November 03, 2014, 08:49:39 PM »
I'm sorry JP but where did I say this wasn't the case ?

"It would appear the McCanns may indeed have instigated a police investigation into trolls, though perhaps not the one they envisioned."

I fear you are going to be disappointed.   @)(++(*