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Offline jassi

Re: The Missing - BBC1 9pm Tuesdays
« Reply #90 on: November 05, 2014, 09:41:00 AM »
I haven't seen any of this programme so have made no comment on its content.
My comments have been about the  standard of TV drama and other programmes in general.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Alfred R Jones

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Re: The Missing - BBC1 9pm Tuesdays
« Reply #91 on: November 05, 2014, 09:52:10 AM »
I haven't seen any of this programme so have made no comment on its content.
My comments have been about the  standard of TV drama and other programmes in general.
LOL. Thanks for your contribution to this thread specifically about the Missing.  Perhaps you should start a thread in another part of the forum to discuss the supposedly poor standard of TV drama in the 21st Century? 

ferryman

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Re: The Missing - BBC1 9pm Tuesdays
« Reply #92 on: November 05, 2014, 09:56:54 AM »
Indeed, many programs are execrable.

Pandering to greed or rank stupidity.

There are very few gems about.

Much the same could be said about some contributors to internet message boards.

stephen25000

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Re: The Missing - BBC1 9pm Tuesdays
« Reply #93 on: November 05, 2014, 09:59:31 AM »
Much the same could be said about some contributors to internet message boards.

Indeed they could, such as those who profess expertise in various skills on the back of googling. 8)-))) @)(++(*

Offline jassi

Re: The Missing - BBC1 9pm Tuesdays
« Reply #94 on: November 05, 2014, 10:02:21 AM »
LOL. Thanks for your contribution to this thread specifically about the Missing.  Perhaps you should start a thread in another part of the forum to discuss the supposedly poor standard of TV drama in the 21st Century?

Well, if you hadn't introduced the opinions of drama critics, I wouldn't have bothered.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Alfred R Jones

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Re: The Missing - BBC1 9pm Tuesdays
« Reply #95 on: November 05, 2014, 10:08:58 AM »
Well, if you hadn't introduced the opinions of drama critics, I wouldn't have bothered.
I introduced the fact that this drama had been critically acclaimed by newspaper TV critics.  It seems a bit rich of you to attempt to rationalise their judgment seeing as you haven't actually watched the programme, nor it seems much in the way of any TV drama in recent years as (by your own admission) there's nothing on you fancy watching.   Oh for the days of REAL telly like the Forsyte Saga and Dixon of Dock Green, eh? @)(++(*

stephen25000

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Re: The Missing - BBC1 9pm Tuesdays
« Reply #96 on: November 05, 2014, 10:15:16 AM »
I introduced the fact that this drama had been critically acclaimed by newspaper TV critics.  It seems a bit rich of you to attempt to rationalise their judgment seeing as you haven't actually watched the programme, nor it seems much in the way of any TV drama in recent years as (by your own admission) there's nothing on you fancy watching.   Oh for the days of REAL telly like the Forsyte Saga and Dixon of Dock Green, eh? @)(++(*


It seems you prefer 'reality tv'.  8(0(*

Offline jassi

Re: The Missing - BBC1 9pm Tuesdays
« Reply #97 on: November 05, 2014, 10:17:35 AM »
Off topic, but I yearn fore the days of clear diction and  the absence of unnecessary  background music.
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I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Alfred R Jones

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Re: The Missing - BBC1 9pm Tuesdays
« Reply #98 on: November 05, 2014, 11:21:45 AM »
Off topic, but I yearn fore the days of clear diction and  the absence of unnecessary  background music.
If you're hard of hearing there's this button they have on remote controls these days for subtitles, it can be very handy!

Alfred R Jones

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Re: The Missing - BBC1 9pm Tuesdays
« Reply #99 on: November 05, 2014, 01:46:13 PM »
Now, here's a thing!  The evil MSM has published an average review of last night's episode!  Whatever next?!  Still, I agree with some of the criticisms in this - from today's Times:

Not for the first time, you might say, I feel as if I have been watching a different programme from the rest of the nation. I am clearly meant to have strong opinions about The Missing and I really don’t. As a father, I should be chilled to the freezer cabinet by the disappearance of a five-year-old. As a viewer am I not outraged that, post the McCann tragedy, child abduction is seen fit for TV drama? Yet missing children are not an uncommon dramatic trope; we endured The Secret of Crickley Hall on BBC One in 2012, Torn on ITV in 2007, and various episodes of Without a Trace on Sky. Literature has been breaching this taboo for years: Ian McEwan’s The Child in Time, Peter Pan, Oliver Twist, The Turn of the Screw and Lolita all feature it. To be frank, I know the difference between fact and fiction, and I can cope.
The question, as always, is how the subject is treated. The Missing clearly deals with little Oliver’s disappearance in a more sophisticated way than the silly ghost story Crickley Hall. The procedural aspects — the Amber Alert procedure et al — are, apparently, accurate. There is proper emphasis on the emotional consequences for Oliver’s parents: in last night’s second episode Tony and Emily had their first fight and first sexual failure since the disappearance, the first missteps towards their foretold separation in the present day. James Nesbitt as Tony is giving his all to his portrayal of grief turned to rage. The filming is artily melancholy.
For all that, however, the Williams brothers’ drama constantly teeters on the edge of whodunit hackery: the second-hand shop with the vital clue; the suddenly discovered child’s drawing in the cellar; the demonic journalist with the bottomless expense account; even the “philosophical” French cop, playing the Nazis’ favourite Liszt rhapsody, because it reminds him we are all a mix of good and evil. The most offensive thing about The Missing is that, because it has subtitles and “ing” in its title, it thinks it is as good as The Killing. It isn’t.

Offline Eleanor

Re: The Missing - BBC1 9pm Tuesdays
« Reply #100 on: November 05, 2014, 03:12:58 PM »

Just watched the second episode, and it seems to me that any disappearance and or abduction of a young child is going to be predictable in this day and age.  Fact or Fiction.  Bearing in mind that we don't have the ending to The Missing or to Madeleine at the moment.  And blaming the parents is also predictable.

As a Drama, I think The Missing is well worth watching.  Far better than The Killing.

Offline colombosstogey

Re: The Missing - BBC1 9pm Tuesdays
« Reply #101 on: November 05, 2014, 03:57:06 PM »
Taking the equation of Madeliene McCann out of the equation, I watched the second episode and its sooooooooooo slow.

It moves between two many things and never explains what its about.

For example, a picture of a man with his face all bashed up in 2006, is then linked with the guy working in the hospice in the presence....including a scar on his nose.....who is he? Or did i miss something when i nodded off.

As to the drawing in the basement are we to believe that the exact same drawing in the fathers hands is not enough to have opened the case again?

Doesnt seem to showing the French in a very sympathetic light.

So now we have business man thrown in with big reward, and a link between known pedophile and his good self, so is this going to turn into a PEDOPHILE RING.....

Also the sighting of the witness which was paid for by the business man, could this have happened also with the McCanns sighting of JT or The Smiths lol.

Its so identical now to the McCann case i didnt think it was at the beginning but it has taken on the same scenarios, without the Tapas 7 in the picture....but all the rest, ruined town because of the child being taken, parents involvement or blaming parents, book written, big reward, business man involved, child missing 8 years, it is almost written to loosely fit the McCanns case why?

Does the playwrite know something we dont lol, and will reveal it through the plot....we are now bringing in sinister possible Pedophile rings.............(all the above said tongue in cheek of course).

For me I dont think its drama at its best, its ruined with all the toing and froing. I think they should have stayed with 2006 and worked through the case, and then perhaps have had a break until present day, so we would have understood the plot that was going on......

Offline Eleanor

Re: The Missing - BBC1 9pm Tuesdays
« Reply #102 on: November 05, 2014, 04:09:08 PM »

That's the way it's done these days.  Backwards and forwards.  Same thing in The Madeleine Case.  Just about everything is revisited, especially when there is no new news.  And at least if it's fiction they can come up with an ending.

Okay, so I'm the only one interested in the ending, although I somewhat doubt this.

Besides, we all know what would happen if The McCanns allowed a film.

Offline Carana

Re: The Missing - BBC1 9pm Tuesdays
« Reply #103 on: November 05, 2014, 04:17:35 PM »
Just watched the second episode, and it seems to me that any disappearance and or abduction of a young child is going to be predictable in this day and age.  Fact or Fiction.  Bearing in mind that we don't have the ending to The Missing or to Madeleine at the moment.  And blaming the parents is also predictable.

As a Drama, I think The Missing is well worth watching.  Far better than The Killing.

I tend to agree. Every situation will be slightly different, but there will be common elements. I find it interesting as well.

While looking for something else, I came across a summary of an abduction I'd forgotten about: a 5-year-old boy abducted by a paedo in August 2007 in Roubaix (north of France). An Alerte Enlèvement was launched and two of the calls that came in (one from a former inmate where the paedo had served time, and one from a taxi driver) eventually led the police to a garage where they found the kid, sexually abused, but alive. The guy, a compulsive paedophile, had only just got out of prison for similar offences. He was supposed to undergo chemical castration, but then seems to have taken off with a prescription for Viagra instead. Some aspects of The Missing might well seem familiar to the family of that little boy as well.
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affaire_Francis_Evrard


Offline Carana

Re: The Missing - BBC1 9pm Tuesdays
« Reply #104 on: November 05, 2014, 04:25:55 PM »
Taking the equation of Madeliene McCann out of the equation, I watched the second episode and its sooooooooooo slow.

It moves between two many things and never explains what its about.

For example, a picture of a man with his face all bashed up in 2006, is then linked with the guy working in the hospice in the presence....including a scar on his nose.....who is he? Or did i miss something when i nodded off.

As to the drawing in the basement are we to believe that the exact same drawing in the fathers hands is not enough to have opened the case again?

Doesnt seem to showing the French in a very sympathetic light.

So now we have business man thrown in with big reward, and a link between known pedophile and his good self, so is this going to turn into a PEDOPHILE RING.....

Also the sighting of the witness which was paid for by the business man, could this have happened also with the McCanns sighting of JT or The Smiths lol.

Its so identical now to the McCann case i didnt think it was at the beginning but it has taken on the same scenarios, without the Tapas 7 in the picture....but all the rest, ruined town because of the child being taken, parents involvement or blaming parents, book written, big reward, business man involved, child missing 8 years, it is almost written to loosely fit the McCanns case why?

Does the playwrite know something we dont lol, and will reveal it through the plot....we are now bringing in sinister possible Pedophile rings.............(all the above said tongue in cheek of course).

For me I dont think its drama at its best, its ruined with all the toing and froing. I think they should have stayed with 2006 and worked through the case, and then perhaps have had a break until present day, so we would have understood the plot that was going on......

I still think that it's inspired from elements of a number of cases. There are indeed aspects that remind me of the Madeleine case, but also of others - see the case I posted just further up in answer to Eleanor.

- A five-year-old boy snatched from the North of France, an Alerte launched and a compulsive paedophile. In The Missing, there is the compulsive paedo, but it seems at the moment that he didn't take Ollie. And, thankfully, the real little boy was found alive.

ETA: I agree that it can be a little confusing when it keeps going back and forth with unexplained aspects. You either have to concentrate or watch it more than once, like some books where you have to zap back to the clue that you'd missed earlier on.
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