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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The nature of the crime has not been proven...
« Reply #90 on: November 08, 2014, 01:19:42 PM »
Three actually! Parent, person known to the victim or stranger.
Tempered with the comment by Leicestershire's Assistant Chief Constable with which most will be familiar.

are you seriously suggesting a friend of the family carried out a criminal act against maddie.......without the knowledge of her parents

Offline Benice

Re: The nature of the crime has not been proven...
« Reply #91 on: November 08, 2014, 01:26:57 PM »
a bizarre suggestion...there was no attention...the case was closed...if the mccanns were guilty they were home and dry

Also there would have been no fear of the PJ stopping them from 'quietly slipping into obscurity' as that is what they wanted this whole case to do - and as soon as possible IMO.


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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: The nature of the crime has not been proven...
« Reply #92 on: November 08, 2014, 01:37:28 PM »
are you seriously suggesting a friend of the family carried out a criminal act against maddie.......without the knowledge of her parents

No.
Why would you think that from the content of my post?
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The nature of the crime has not been proven...
« Reply #93 on: November 08, 2014, 01:49:29 PM »
No.
Why would you think that from the content of my post?

then theres only two possibilities..stranger or parent

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: The nature of the crime has not been proven...
« Reply #94 on: November 08, 2014, 02:14:14 PM »
then theres only two possibilities..stranger or parent

Three!
Someone known to the child is not of necessity a family member or a friend of her parents.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline pathfinder73

Re: The nature of the crime has not been proven...
« Reply #95 on: November 08, 2014, 02:51:40 PM »
No parent that was responsible for a crime against their child would have repeatedly put themselves at risk by searching, searching and pushing, pushing,  as the Mccanns have.

The Mccanns are not dumbwits, they are highly intelligent people.

They would know that if they were responsible, they necessarily MUST keep reputedly the Worlds best Detectives (NSY) away from the case.  They would know that NSY, with a big team, has considerably more intellect collectively than they do.  They would be found out.

They pressed for SY to be involved. 


Proof on its own that they were not involved

That proves nothing if she can never be found. There's one area in PDL where the yard should properly search for clues and it's on top of a hill possibly under rocks.



This is the crime scene photo of the shutters (not jemmied or broken!):



Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The nature of the crime has not been proven...
« Reply #96 on: November 08, 2014, 02:54:08 PM »
Can someone remind me when exactly did the McCanns start 'pushing for a review' ?

When, & where, are they first on record as 'trying to get the case re-opened'?


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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The nature of the crime has not been proven...
« Reply #97 on: November 08, 2014, 02:56:31 PM »
That proves nothing if she can never be found.......


'She's out there until proven otherwise'..........to Dr McCanns amusement.

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The nature of the crime has not been proven...
« Reply #98 on: November 08, 2014, 06:27:57 PM »
Three!
Someone known to the child is not of necessity a family member or a friend of her parents.

The mccanns didn't know anyone in Portugal apart from their friends

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The nature of the crime has not been proven...
« Reply #99 on: November 08, 2014, 06:29:49 PM »
That proves nothing if she can never be found. There's one area in PDL where the yard should properly search for clues and it's on top of a hill possibly under rocks.



This is the crime scene photo of the shutters (not jemmied or broken!):





mccanns never said jemmied or broken...the shutters were forced open from the outside

Offline pathfinder73

Re: The nature of the crime has not been proven...
« Reply #100 on: November 08, 2014, 07:02:04 PM »
mccanns never said jemmied or broken...the shutters were forced open from the outside

There's no evidence of the shutters being forced open but they were tampered with before the police arrived.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The nature of the crime has not been proven...
« Reply #101 on: November 08, 2014, 07:04:41 PM »
There's no evidence of the shutters being forced open but they were tampered with before the police arrived.

The evidence is the mccanns statements...they admitted they moved the shutters before the police arrived...

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: The nature of the crime has not been proven...
« Reply #102 on: November 08, 2014, 07:09:01 PM »
The mccanns didn't know anyone in Portugal apart from their friends

Didn't they?
Evidence suggests that by the Friday they knew quite a few people.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline jassi

Re: The nature of the crime has not been proven...
« Reply #103 on: November 08, 2014, 07:10:50 PM »
Madeleine wouldn't have known them though, she spent most of her waking hours in a creche
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: The nature of the crime has not been proven...
« Reply #104 on: November 08, 2014, 07:17:05 PM »
Madeleine wouldn't have known them though, she spent most of her waking hours in a creche
With creche nannies, club workers, attendants and mums and dads all becoming familiar to her.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey