Claims that Nevill phoned police while Sheila went on rampage.

[Angelo222]

Myster I NEED you desperately...

I would like to bring up... the table in the following but don't know how to  &%+((£  Please help....

http://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/nevill-s-call-to-police.

Is there a digit missing in JB's tel no?  In the 80's Goldhanger and Tolleshunt D'Arcy had four digit tel numbers to exchange calls locally?  What's the def of local?  Within the county the number would be prefixed by a further two digits and then further digits for elsewhere within the UK?  So it seems to me JB's tel number is incorrect in the table ie a digit is missing?

The telephone numbers are what were recorded at police HQ when Jeremy Bamber phoned them.

"Message passed to CD by the son of Mr Bamber"

Nevill Bamber 860209   Jeremy Bamber 88645

[John]

This thread has been merged.

[Holly Goodhead]

You at least can see through the wood which is to your credit.

 

I would like to bring up the table in the following as a stand alone.  Its about 1/3 way down.

http://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/nevill-s-call-to-police

I think JB's tel no might be incorrect.  Its probably not really important but it might show that EP are yet again recording info incorrectly AND JB/CT are blindly following:

NB's tel no/WHF = stated as 860209

JB's tel no/Goldhanger = stated as 88645

I think residents within the Maldon exchange incl Tolleshunt D'Arcy and Goldhanger would only need a four digit number to exchange calls?  Residents outside the Maldon exchange but within Essex would need a further two digits to connect to Tolleshunt D'Arcy and Goldhanger?  This would include Chelmsford (police station) to Tolleshunt D'Arcy and Goldhanger?  Residents outside Essex would need to dial further digits?

http://www.thephonebook.bt.com/publisha.content/en/search/uk_codes/index.bycounty.publisha?County=Essex#

http://www.thephonebook.bt.com/publisha.content/en/search/uk_codes/search.publisha?Search=Maldon#

[Holly Goodhead]

See in AE's WS (at top) she gives her tel no as Maldon and provides a six digit number:

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1053.msg30060#msg30060

[anglolawyer]

Myster I NEED you desperately...

I would like to bring up... the table in the following but don't know how to  &%+((£  Please help....

http://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/nevill-s-call-to-police.

Is there a digit missing in JB's tel no?  In the 80's Goldhanger and Tolleshunt D'Arcy had four digit tel numbers to exchange calls locally?  What's the def of local?  Within the county the number would be prefixed by a further two digits and then further digits for elsewhere within the UK?  So it seems to me JB's tel number is incorrect in the table ie a digit is missing?

Ann Eaton gives both telephone nos. in her first* witness statement (49 pages - mid-September).   WHF is TD + 3 digits while Goldhanger is Maldon + 5 digits.

* in her 'second' statement she says she gave a statement to Stan Jones on 12 Aug IIRC.   We don't seem to have that here unfortunately.

[Holly Goodhead]

Ann Eaton gives both telephone nos. in her first* witness statement (49 pages - mid-September).   WHF is TD + 3 digits while Goldhanger is Maldon + 5 digits.

* in her 'second' statement she says she gave a statement to Stan Jones on 12 Aug IIRC.   We don't seem to have that here unfortunately.

I'm sorry I don't understand the above? 

AE has given her own tel number as Maldon 817108.  My understanding is that at that time (mid 80's) if anyone was calling AE from within the Maldon exchange they could knock off the first two digits ie 81 and just dial 7108 and get through.  Anyone calling from within Essex but outside the Maldon exchange would need to dial 817108.  Anyone calling outside Essex would need to dial further digits in addition to 817108. 

[Holly Goodhead]

The number is correct as per BT phone directory:

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/1025/RDUK1850_901748-00094/275634149?backurl=&ssrc=&backlabel=Return

[Holly Goodhead]

Just checked NB's number and that is correct too as per BT phone directory:

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/1025/RDUK1850_901748-00095/275634509?backurl=&ssrc=&backlabel=Return

Both numbers are Maldon but clearly some numbers are 6 digits (NB's) and others (JB's) 5 digits.

[Angelo222]

Just checked NB's number and that is correct too as per BT phone directory:

http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/1025/RDUK1850_901748-00095/275634509?backurl=&ssrc=&backlabel=Return

Both numbers are Maldon but clearly some numbers are 6 digits (NB's) and others (JB's) 5 digits.

So they are correctly recorded after all that?  ...and the point of this little sojourn??

[anglolawyer]

I'm sorry I don't understand the above? 

AE has given her own tel number as Maldon 817108.  My understanding is that at that time (mid 80's) if anyone was calling AE from within the Maldon exchange they could knock off the first two digits ie 81 and just dial 7108 and get through.  Anyone calling from within Essex but outside the Maldon exchange would need to dial 817108.  Anyone calling outside Essex would need to dial further digits in addition to 817108.

See p.19 of her WS here, at the bottom http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1053.0

[Holly Goodhead]

So they are correctly recorded after all that?  ...and the point of this little sojourn??

Yes they are correctly recorded based on the BT entries in the phone book.

I obviously have too much time on my hands 

Just trying to make sure the basics are correct and look at the CT's claims.

[Holly Goodhead]

See p.19 of her WS here, at the bottom http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1053.0

I see, thanks.

Here are the entries in the BT phone directory.  Both state Maldon, Essex.  The phone directory comes under Southend-on-Sea. In any event we can all see both numbers are correct as per the phone directory. 

One of the reasons I was interested to confirm the digits is that I have often thought NB called JB on the basis it was quicker than dialling EP either emergency 999 or a non-emergency number but there's another thread for that call.



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[Angelo222]

A bit curious Hols, how did you come by the old phone books?

[Holly Goodhead]

AE refers to NB's number as Tolleshunt D'Arcy 209 and JB's number as Maldon 88645.  Whereas the BT phone directory has them down as Maldon 860209 and Maldon 88645 respectively.

See BT phone entries in post above and AE's WS below:

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1053.0;attach=2177

[Holly Goodhead]

A bit curious Hols, how did you come by the old phone books?

I Googled old BT phone books and was directed to the Ancestry site where I had to part with £9.99p