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Offline Carana

Re: British ministers urged to issue guidance on unattended children.
« Reply #45 on: November 20, 2014, 02:34:48 PM »
Quote from: jassi on November 20, 2014, 01:50:16 PM
The point is that if there was a specific law, all cases  that broke it would go to court.

Are you sure about that? Doesn't the CPS consider "public interest" before deciding on prosecution?

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Offline jassi

Re: British ministers urged to issue guidance on unattended children.
« Reply #46 on: November 20, 2014, 02:37:02 PM »
It might be at present - doesn't mean that it always has to be or  always will be. Rules get changed at the whim of politicians.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: British ministers urged to issue guidance on unattended children.
« Reply #47 on: November 20, 2014, 02:37:53 PM »
Quote from: jassi on November 20, 2014, 02:30:27 PM
Perhaps the issue of babysitters might be worth consideration - there have been a number of nasty cases where children have been harmed by their childminder.
No doubt if you were running a professional babysitting service, you would need to be vetted.

unfortunately far more than those hurt by being left alone for a short period
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Offline jassi

Re: British ministers urged to issue guidance on unattended children.
« Reply #48 on: November 20, 2014, 02:39:24 PM »
Does that matter ? A law could be all inclusive and cover a number of issues.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: British ministers urged to issue guidance on unattended children.
« Reply #49 on: November 20, 2014, 02:45:57 PM »
Quote from: jassi on November 20, 2014, 02:39:24 PM
Does that matter ? A law could be all inclusive and cover a number of issues.

It would be a minefield of extenuating circumstances.  And it would never get through Parliament.
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Offline jassi

Re: British ministers urged to issue guidance on unattended children.
« Reply #50 on: November 20, 2014, 02:50:18 PM »
Quote from: Eleanor on November 20, 2014, 02:45:57 PM
It would be a minefield of extenuating circumstances.  And it would never get through Parliament.

Oh I don't know - get the Daily Mail behind it and all things are possible   @)(++(*
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Carana

Re: British ministers urged to issue guidance on unattended children.
« Reply #51 on: November 20, 2014, 02:59:42 PM »
Quote from: jassi on November 20, 2014, 02:30:27 PM
Perhaps the issue of babysitters might be worth consideration - there have been a number of nasty cases where children have been harmed by their childminder.
No doubt if you were running a professional babysitting service, you would need to be vetted.

Yes, I have no problem with that.

Back when I was a typically broke student, I sometimes babysat as a resut of ads in the papers.

In one instance, I turned up and was given a 5-minute explanation of the child's evening routine and a phone number in the event of an emergency (and this was before mobile phones).

I knew that I was totally trustworthy and responsible, but the child's parent didn't know me from Adam.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: British ministers urged to issue guidance on unattended children.
« Reply #52 on: November 20, 2014, 03:12:04 PM »
Quote from: jassi on November 20, 2014, 02:50:18 PM
Oh I don't know - get the Daily Mail behind it and all things are possible   @)(++(*

By the time I had finished with The Daily Mail they would be begging for Parliament to mind it's own business.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: British ministers urged to issue guidance on unattended children.
« Reply #53 on: November 20, 2014, 03:30:36 PM »
Quote from: davel on November 20, 2014, 02:17:45 PM
there are far more children being harmed whilst in the care of adults...and whilst being babysat and in the care of nurseries

...at crèches etc...
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: British ministers urged to issue guidance on unattended children.
« Reply #54 on: November 20, 2014, 04:45:10 PM »
Quote from: Slartibartfast on November 20, 2014, 03:30:36 PM
...at crèches etc...

night crèche...paedophile paradise
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Offline carlymichelle

Re: British ministers urged to issue guidance on unattended children.
« Reply #55 on: November 20, 2014, 06:29:01 PM »
Quote from: davel on November 20, 2014, 04:45:10 PM
night crèche...paedophile paradise

so you  are calling creche staff  paedos????
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: British ministers urged to issue guidance on unattended children.
« Reply #56 on: November 20, 2014, 08:07:15 PM »
Quote from: carlymichelle on November 20, 2014, 06:29:01 PM
so you  are calling creche staff  paedos????

no
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stephen25000

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Re: British ministers urged to issue guidance on unattended children.
« Reply #57 on: November 21, 2014, 10:06:20 AM »
Quote from: davel on November 20, 2014, 04:45:10 PM
night crèche...paedophile paradise

and your evidence is ?
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Offline Benice

Re: British ministers urged to issue guidance on unattended children.
« Reply #58 on: November 21, 2014, 11:07:26 AM »
Quote from: stephen25000 on November 21, 2014, 10:06:20 AM
and your evidence is ?

Although there is no evidence whatsoever to suggest this may have been the case at PdL  - there have been cases of paedaphiles working at nurseries.   The Vanessa George case is just one example.

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stephen25000

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Re: British ministers urged to issue guidance on unattended children.
« Reply #59 on: November 21, 2014, 11:26:01 AM »
Quote from: Benice on November 21, 2014, 11:07:26 AM
Although there is no evidence whatsoever to suggest this may have been the case at PdL  - there have been cases of paedaphiles working at nurseries.   The Vanessa George case is just one example.

So this is an example of clutching at any AVAILABLE STRAW .
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