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Offline puglove

Re: Why did Julie wait a month before speaking to the police ?
« Reply #45 on: December 28, 2014, 01:42:26 PM »
I would have thought the time to tell the truth was when JM left the morgue with AE having identified the victims. 

I will never be able to take anthing JM says seriously.  CC tells in his book how on Saturday 3rd August 1985 he held a party at his London home. SC, JM and JB attended.  CC makes a point of telling how JM put the twins to bed and read them a bedtime story; two little boys just turned 6 yoa.  This no doubt included some affection perhaps a hug, kiss and ruffling or stroking their hair.  With hindsight this was very poignant for CC as it was sadly the last opportunity he would ever have of putting the twins to bed which he missed. Less than 5 days later on Thursday 8th August JM is taken to the morgue by AE to identify the victims including the twins.  To my mind this just doesn't bear thinking about.  Surely seeing those two little boys with shaven heads and gunshot wounds would bring the truth home then and there? 

JM claims JB told her on 7th August he arranged for MM to carry out the murders.  If this is true how  on earth could she continue an intimate relationship with a man capable of orchestrating such an act?  She was not some silly 'love struck' teenage girl.  She was almost 21yoa and studying for a masters degree.

I agree, it's impossible to imagine how Julie could bring herself to identify the boys. But who knows? Maybe Ann bullied her into it, I would think that she is quite a forceful person. And, sadly, only Julie could tell the boys apart.

People are very strange. Look at Gladys, pretending to be all pious and decent, while at the same time describing on youtube how he'd like to sodomise a policeman. To death. With a two-foot penis. And look at Sonia Sutcliffe, still visiting her husband, still living in the house they shared while he was murdering all those women.

Strange.    8(8-))
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Jeremy Bamber kicked Mike Tesko in the fanny.

Offline APRIL

Re: Why did Julie wait a month before speaking to the police ?
« Reply #46 on: December 28, 2014, 02:10:04 PM »
Did Julie identify ALL the family or just the twins? If someone else identified the others, why did they not also identify the boys? I'm not denying it would have been hard but surely more loving than allowing a non family member/ comparative stranger to do it.

Offline Myster

Re: Why did Julie wait a month before speaking to the police ?
« Reply #47 on: December 28, 2014, 02:30:37 PM »
Did Julie identify ALL the family or just the twins? If someone else identified the others, why did they not also identify the boys? I'm not denying it would have been hard but surely more loving than allowing a non family member/ comparative stranger to do it.
Yes, she identified all five, mainly because no-one else in the family could bear to see them in such a state.
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline APRIL

Re: Why did Julie wait a month before speaking to the police ?
« Reply #48 on: December 28, 2014, 03:32:57 PM »
Yes, she identified all five, mainly because no-one else in the family could bear to see them in such a state.


A curious juxtaposition, don't you think? The woman who can't bear to see her relatives, including her small second cousins, "in such a state", can confidently take her own children to help her change the beds in which took place the "state" she couldn't bear to see them in.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Why did Julie wait a month before speaking to the police ?
« Reply #49 on: December 28, 2014, 08:32:09 PM »

A curious juxtaposition, don't you think? The woman who can't bear to see her relatives, including her small second cousins, "in such a state", can confidently take her own children to help her change the beds in which took place the "state" she couldn't bear to see them in.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3168.0;attach=3118
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Myster

Re: Why did Julie wait a month before speaking to the police ?
« Reply #50 on: December 28, 2014, 08:58:47 PM »

A curious juxtaposition, don't you think? The woman who can't bear to see her relatives, including her small second cousins, "in such a state", can confidently take her own children to help her change the beds in which took place the "state" she couldn't bear to see them in.
Identifying a shaven, battered, bruised and bullet-ridden corpse is somewhat different though to remaking an empty bed with fresh sheets, if the blood-stained ones have already been disposed of.
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline guinness

Re: Why did Julie wait a month before speaking to the police ?
« Reply #51 on: January 02, 2015, 09:43:33 PM »
Yes, she identified all five, mainly because no-one else in the family could bear to see them in such a state.

Actually most members of the family hardly saw Sheila and said they would not know the difference between the twins. Colins girlfriend offered to save colin doing it but the police refused.

Offline Myster

Re: Why did Julie wait a month before speaking to the police ?
« Reply #52 on: January 03, 2015, 10:11:16 AM »
Actually most members of the family hardly saw Sheila and said they would not know the difference between the twins. Colins girlfriend offered to save colin doing it but the police refused.
I think David Boutflour and Ann Eaton would have recognised Nevill, June and Sheila easily enough, but maybe not able to distinguish the twins, hence the reason for Julie's intervention.

JB couldn't have given a sh*t, imo... he was more interested in scarpering off to see how much he was worth the afternoon after the murders than identifying his parents, sister and nephews.
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Why did Julie wait a month before speaking to the police ?
« Reply #53 on: January 03, 2015, 03:41:50 PM »
I think David Boutflour and Ann Eaton would have recognised Nevill, June and Sheila easily enough, but maybe not able to distinguish the twins, hence the reason for Julie's intervention.

JB couldn't have given a sh*t, imo... he was more interested in scarpering off to see how much he was worth the afternoon after the murders than identifying his parents, sister and nephews.

The victims of WHF were really from two families.  I would have thought it more appropriate to have RB and PB or AE and DB identify SC, June and NB with CC's parents identifying the twins.  I'm not an overly emotional, sentimental type but personally I think the way it was handled was a bit inappropriate and disrespectful to the victims.  JM was only JB's girlfriend and by all accounts June didn't approve of her.  I can understand CC and JB not feeling up to the task but I would have thought those once removed so to speak could find it in themselves to do so.

Did JB initiate contact with Basil Cock, the accountant, and the solicitor or did they approach him?  Perhaps there were pressing matters to deal with eg maybe June and Nevill were the only authorised signatories on the N & J Bamber Ltd bank account.  The staff needed paying.  Perhaps merchants and others too.  BW tells in the following at 6.55 mins in that she went to JB's home to collect the wages and money on the Friday after the murders.  It could well be that JB had to meet the accountant and solicitor to access the N & J Bamber Ltd bank account in order to pay the wages.  Perhaps JB was just trying to keep the show on the road.  Or dealing with practical mundane matters was his way of coping with the shock/grief.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i2CjYDJGTo
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline John

Re: Why did Julie wait a month before speaking to the police ?
« Reply #54 on: January 26, 2015, 02:26:09 AM »
I think Julie was in a daze and until she saw Bambers handiwork first hand she couldn't believe it.  It was all downhill from that point on.

A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline scipio_usmc

Re: Why did Julie wait a month before speaking to the police ?
« Reply #55 on: January 26, 2015, 03:46:38 PM »
Identifying a shaven, battered, bruised and bullet-ridden corpse is somewhat different though to remaking an empty bed with fresh sheets, if the blood-stained ones have already been disposed of.

They show you the face mainly, the rest of the body is covered up unless the face is in such bad shape that you need to look for tatts and other identifying features.
“...there are three classes of intellects: one which comprehends by itself; another which appreciates what others comprehend; and a third which neither comprehends by itself nor by the showing of others; the first is the most excellent, the second is good, the third is useless.”  Niccolò Machiavelli