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Offline xtina

Re: Journalist Sonia Poulton promises "The untold story of Madeleine McCann".
« Reply #360 on: January 04, 2015, 01:49:22 PM »
There are also plenty of ways of  interpreting things without being libelous.
Spinmasters do it all the time.



exactly ........there will also be thousands and thousands waiting ......the hear what Sonia has to say
Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

The first storyteller you will always find has modified the story, for there benefit BE WISE.

Offline Carana

Re: Journalist Sonia Poulton promises "The untold story of Madeleine McCann".
« Reply #361 on: January 04, 2015, 02:28:36 PM »
If she is claiming to be an investigative broadcast journalist, then impartiality seems to be required by OFCOM.

http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/binaries/enforcement/broadcast-bulletins/obb25411/obb256.pdf

I'm not sure what the outcome was of her allegedly being reported to OFCOM over her interview with Robert Green in the Hollie case.

I have no idea whether this "documentary" is intended to be posted as a YouTube video (or a similar service) or as a licenced commercial TV service.

If the latter:


Broadcasting

Ofcom licenses all UK commercial television and radio services. Our Broadcasting Code also sets out the rules which television and radio broadcasters must follow. This section includes information for the broadcast industry, as well as our latest research and Broadcast Bulletins.

http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/broadcasting/







Offline Carana

Re: Journalist Sonia Poulton promises "The untold story of Madeleine McCann".
« Reply #362 on: January 04, 2015, 03:21:23 PM »
Hmmm. If the impression to the average reader is that he wasn't told the truth, i.e. was told a lie as opposed to a balanced proposition that there may have been a muddled communication issue, wouldn't that be libellous?

Step back a second. Some "investigative journalist" writes about an armed robbery in X town and mentioned the fact that the suspected criminal wore a blue necklace. The "investigative journalist" then stated that Jassi, who lives nearby / resembles a suspect / has family in the area, is well-known for wearing a blue necklace (even though there may be 20 other people who also do and several who don't get a mention in the article) and insinuates that you are the the bank robber in question.

Is that impartial reporting in your view?
« Last Edit: January 10, 2015, 03:51:58 AM by John »

Offline jassi

Re: Journalist Sonia Poulton promises "The untold story of Madeleine McCann".
« Reply #363 on: January 04, 2015, 03:29:53 PM »
Hmmm. If the impression to the average reader is that he wasn't told the truth, i.e. was told a lie as opposed to a balanced proposition that there may have been a muddled communication issue, wouldn't that be libellous?

Step back a second. Some "investigative journalist" writes about an armed robbery in X town and mentioned the fact that the suspected criminal wore a blue necklace. The "investigative journalist" then stated that Jassi, who lives nearby / resembles a suspect / has family in the area, is well-known for wearing a blue necklace (even though there may be 20 other people who also do and several who don't get a mention in the article) and insinuates that you are the the bank robber in question.

Is that impartial reporting in your view?


Reporting seldom is impartial.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Lyall

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Re: Journalist Sonia Poulton promises "The untold story of Madeleine McCann".
« Reply #364 on: January 04, 2015, 03:30:55 PM »
It isn't libelous to ask the question, Carana. Then for balance - if one is available - you would include any explanation the people concerned had themselves given. If they never did give an explanation themselves then that isn't the fault of the person or persons asking the question.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Journalist Sonia Poulton promises "The untold story of Madeleine McCann".
« Reply #365 on: January 04, 2015, 03:45:04 PM »
It isn't libelous to ask the question, Carana. Then for balance - if one is available - you would include any explanation the people concerned had themselves given. If they never did give an explanation themselves then that isn't the fault of the person or persons asking the question.
From Carter-Ruck's website:

Determining the meaning of words gives rise to a great degree of uncertainty in a libel action. It is not only the superficial meaning that may be defamatory but also any 'hidden' meaning which can be inferred. There are three levels of meaning to be aware of:


##inference, in other words a meaning that can be read between the lines without any specialist knowledge; and
##innuendo, a meaning which can be attributed to the words by readers who have a specialist knowledge.
The onus is on the claimant to show the facts giving rise to the innuendo and that these facts are known to the readers. For example, to say that a person eats meat is not defamatory on its face; if, however, some readers know that the person professes to be a committed vegetarian, the statement may be considered defamatory, suggesting he is hypocritical or dishonest.
 
 The words must be put in their full context, including headings and captions to any photographs. For the purpose of deciding whether words are defamatory, the intention of the author is irrelevant. All that matters is the impression which the words give to readers.
 

Lyall

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Re: Journalist Sonia Poulton promises "The untold story of Madeleine McCann".
« Reply #366 on: January 04, 2015, 04:07:55 PM »
From Carter-Ruck's website:

Determining the meaning of words gives rise to a great degree of uncertainty in a libel action. It is not only the superficial meaning that may be defamatory but also any 'hidden' meaning which can be inferred. There are three levels of meaning to be aware of:


##inference, in other words a meaning that can be read between the lines without any specialist knowledge; and
##innuendo, a meaning which can be attributed to the words by readers who have a specialist knowledge.
The onus is on the claimant to show the facts giving rise to the innuendo and that these facts are known to the readers. For example, to say that a person eats meat is not defamatory on its face; if, however, some readers know that the person professes to be a committed vegetarian, the statement may be considered defamatory, suggesting he is hypocritical or dishonest.
 
 The words must be put in their full context, including headings and captions to any photographs. For the purpose of deciding whether words are defamatory, the intention of the author is irrelevant. All that matters is the impression which the words give to readers.
 

We have an even better source than the Mighty Ruck- the judgement in the Feb 2013 case. I've read it many times.

Though I'm well aware that doesn't make a lawyer 8(0(*

Offline Brietta

Re: Journalist Sonia Poulton promises "The untold story of Madeleine McCann".
« Reply #367 on: January 06, 2015, 11:55:01 AM »

I am sure Sonia Poulton will have exclusive material from Dr Amaral, Pat Brown et al for inclusion in her definitive documentary ...

I am particularly interested in what Tony Bennett may have to contribute as he appears to have very firm ideas of the value of her forthcoming oeuvre.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2015, 11:56:47 AM by Eleanor »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline xtina

Re: Journalist Sonia Poulton promises "The untold story of Madeleine McCann".
« Reply #368 on: January 06, 2015, 01:00:36 PM »
I am sure Sonia Poulton will have exclusive material from Dr Amaral, Pat Brown et al for inclusion in her definitive documentary ...

I am particularly interested in what Tony Bennett may have to contribute as he appears to have very firm ideas of the value of her forthcoming oeuvre.


well it just goes to prove a point of all the deleted posts..[for anyone who saw them]

i would of thought that you of all posters would not have the slightest interest in what T.B. has to say on anything ....just shows you
Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

The first storyteller you will always find has modified the story, for there benefit BE WISE.

Offline xtina

Re: Journalist Sonia Poulton promises "The untold story of Madeleine McCann".
« Reply #369 on: January 06, 2015, 01:26:47 PM »
WELL is it ok to put these on the Sonia Poulton thread.... &%+((£


Philip Tann‏@PhilipTann1961·3h3 hours ago
@SoniaPoulton @Twittwoonic You have a lot of people behind what you're doing Sonia. Xx


einnal‏@Lanniea1973·2h2 hours ago@SoniaPoulton when will this be in tv?x


Sonia Poulton‏@SoniaPoulton·2h2 hours ago
@Lanniea1973 we start having broadcast meetings next week, info to follow
« Last Edit: January 10, 2015, 03:59:33 AM by John »
Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

The first storyteller you will always find has modified the story, for there benefit BE WISE.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Journalist Sonia Poulton promises "The untold story of Madeleine McCann".
« Reply #370 on: January 06, 2015, 01:31:09 PM »
WELL is it ok to put these on the Sonia Poulton thread.... &%+((£


Philip Tann‏@PhilipTann1961·3h3 hours ago
@SoniaPoulton @Twittwoonic You have a lot of people behind what you're doing Sonia. Xx


einnal‏@Lanniea1973·2h2 hours ago@SoniaPoulton when will this be in tv?x


Sonia Poulton‏@SoniaPoulton·2h2 hours ago
@Lanniea1973 we start having broadcast meetings next week, info to follow

I can't see why not.  Although Admin might disagree with me.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2015, 03:59:52 AM by John »

Offline Lace

Re: Journalist Sonia Poulton promises "The untold story of Madeleine McCann".
« Reply #371 on: January 06, 2015, 02:18:12 PM »
I wonder what 'untold' things there are to hear after seven years!!

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Journalist Sonia Poulton promises "The untold story of Madeleine McCann".
« Reply #372 on: January 06, 2015, 02:25:45 PM »
I wonder what 'untold' things there are to hear after seven years!!

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Offline Lace

Re: Journalist Sonia Poulton promises "The untold story of Madeleine McCann".
« Reply #373 on: January 06, 2015, 02:31:23 PM »
I wonder what 'untold' things there are to hear after seven years!!

Well she had better pass 'the truth' over to SY !!

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Journalist Sonia Poulton promises "The untold story of Madeleine McCann".
« Reply #374 on: January 06, 2015, 02:38:56 PM »
I wonder what 'untold' things there are to hear after seven years!!
It will be along the lines of "Jane Doe was nasty to Brenda on Twitter and we know where she lives", that sort of thing, I'm sure.