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Lyall

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Re: Journalist Sonia Poulton promises "The untold story of Madeleine McCann".
« Reply #405 on: January 07, 2015, 11:19:51 PM »
Does anyone know why Sonia wishes to out a McCann supporter on her video?  Has anyone got any a view about whether or not this is a good idea and how exactly could it help get justice for Madeleine?  Or is it simply about retribution for Brenda?

 &%+((£ The whole thread is full of answers to questions like this?

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Re: Journalist Sonia Poulton promises "The untold story of Madeleine McCann".
« Reply #406 on: January 07, 2015, 11:40:34 PM »
&%+((£ The whole thread is full of answers to questions like this?

Indeed Lyall.

Lest we forget this is a situation of the McCanns and their supporters making. If the dossier was to highlight the abuse of the couple then it should have been left to the police to take the necessary steps to see that that happened. Of course the faithful expected arrests and the martyrdom of the McCanns again reinforced through tabloid news of those arrests. By the end of September when nothing had happened, and with the faithful's need for revenge still unsated, drastic measures were called for which, as we now know, ultimately lead to the doorstepping of Brenda and her untimely death.

Those who choose to live by the sword, may ultimately die by it.

The dossier compiler was quite happy for Brenda Leyland's privacy to be ripped apart. Isn't it then rather churlish of her to complain when the same fate threatens her ?

« Last Edit: January 07, 2015, 11:45:27 PM by Faithlilly »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Journalist Sonia Poulton promises "The untold story of Madeleine McCann".
« Reply #407 on: January 07, 2015, 11:41:36 PM »
Does anyone know why Sonia wishes to out a McCann supporter on her video?  Has anyone got any a view about whether or not this is a good idea and how exactly could it help get justice for Madeleine?  Or is it simply about retribution for Brenda?

What ever the reasons why do you care? Brenda's death, as you have displayed, is of no consequence to you. Her death does not have a personal impact on your life does it? Your behavour and response suggest  she deserved to die because of what she did to the McCanns.(?).and yet you seem unperturbed that the McCanns brought this whole sorry mess upon themselves.

I personally do not agree with all of Brenda's views, and I certainly don't do twitter or facebook, however, Brenda had opinions and had every right to express them without fear or intimidation!

 We are entitled to hear ALL the theories of everyone no matter how much we disagree, and if Kate McCann can dish out vile rants about people so can others!
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Lyall

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Re: Journalist Sonia Poulton promises "The untold story of Madeleine McCann".
« Reply #408 on: January 08, 2015, 12:14:09 AM »
Indeed Lyall.

Lest we forget this is a situation of the McCanns and their supporters making. If the dossier was to highlight the abuse of the couple then it should have been left to the police to take the necessary steps to see that that happened. Of course the faithful expected arrests and the martyrdom of the McCanns again reinforced through tabloid news of those arrests. By the end of September when nothing had happened, and with the faithful's need for revenge still unsated, drastic measures were called for which, as we now know, ultimately lead to the doorstepping of Brenda and her untimely death.

Those who choose to live by the sword, may ultimately die by it.

The dossier compiler was quite happy for Brenda Leyland's privacy to be ripped apart. Isn't it then rather churlish of her to complain when the same fate threatens her ?

 &%+((£ I hear you Faith but can't agree. Sky News (and allies) were bursting to take some action and this 'dossier' was only an excuse. We should be asking why that is instead of confirming everything they believe about us, as people (not us) have been doing.

It was Sky News and the Mail who identified Brenda, not whoever made this 'dossier'.

I don't doubt that whoever made it was hoping police would do something, but they didn't command TV to get involved did they. Sky News just needed an excuse. But if it hadn't been this it would have been something else sooner or later.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Journalist Sonia Poulton promises "The untold story of Madeleine McCann".
« Reply #409 on: January 08, 2015, 12:28:59 AM »
&%+((£ I hear you Faith but can't agree. Sky News (and allies) were bursting to take some action and this 'dossier' was only an excuse. We should be asking why that is instead of confirming everything they believe about us, as people (not us) have been doing.

It was Sky News and the Mail who identified Brenda, not whoever made this 'dossier'.

I don't doubt that whoever made it was hoping police would do something, but they didn't command TV to get involved did they. Sky News just needed an excuse. But if it hadn't been this it would have been something else sooner or later.

Are you suggesting the compiler of the dossier did not mention Brenda by name? and are you also suggesting the compiler of the dossier had no input regarding the dossier getting into the hands of the media?  was it not SKY News WHO BROKE THE MADDIE STORY EARLY IN THE MORNING on the day she disappeared? who owns SKY NEWS? who owned News of The World-Sun news papers- who serialized Kate's book?   WHO WORKED FOR THESE PEOPLE and got David Cameron to commit millions of pounds to 'find Maddie'...Oh is it just me who can see the elephant in the room?
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Lyall

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Re: Journalist Sonia Poulton promises "The untold story of Madeleine McCann".
« Reply #410 on: January 08, 2015, 12:40:32 AM »
Are you suggesting the compiler of the dossier did not mention Brenda by name? and are you also suggesting the compiler of the dossier had no input regarding the dossier getting into the hands of the media?  was it not SKY News WHO BROKE THE MADDIE STORY EARLY IN THE MORNING on the day she disappeared? who owns SKY NEWS? who owned News of The World-Sun news papers- who serialized Kate's book?   WHO WORKED FOR THESE PEOPLE and got David Cameron to commit millions of pounds to 'find Maddie'...Oh is it just me who can see the elephant in the room?

The answers to your first two questions are we don't know, but people have been behaving as though they do know. But in any case if someone did hand it to TV they didn't command/force them to do something with it did they. Sky News producers decided to take action.

I'm aware of the history of Murdoch's papers in the case, but The Sun has actually touched it the least since they hit their own troubles in 2011.

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Re: Journalist Sonia Poulton promises "The untold story of Madeleine McCann".
« Reply #411 on: January 08, 2015, 12:44:22 AM »
&%+((£ I hear you Faith but can't agree. Sky News (and allies) were bursting to take some action and this 'dossier' was only an excuse. We should be asking why that is instead of confirming everything they believe about us, as people (not us) have been doing.

It was Sky News and the Mail who identified Brenda, not whoever made this 'dossier'.

I don't doubt that whoever made it was hoping police would do something, but they didn't command TV to get involved did they. Sky News just needed an excuse. But if it hadn't been this it would have been something else sooner or later.

TBH Lyall it has gotten to the point where it's almost impossible to know who's pulling whose strings.

While  I absolutely agree that the dossier compiler didn't identify Brenda, she was certainly on the supporter's radar  and they did pass the information to Sky when it should have remained exclusively in the hands of the police. The dossier compiler wasn't a young ingenue naive to the way of the media. They had seen how the McCanns had been treated when made arguidos and must have been only too aware, knowing the value of any McCann-related story, what Sky would do with the information.

That Sky are equally to blame is undeniable but this was a symbiotic relationship and without both their participation Brenda Leyland would in all likelihood be alive today.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Lyall

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Re: Journalist Sonia Poulton promises "The untold story of Madeleine McCann".
« Reply #412 on: January 08, 2015, 01:26:38 AM »
TBH Lyall it has gotten to the point where it's almost impossible to know who's pulling whose strings.

While  I absolutely agree that the dossier compiler didn't identify Brenda, she was certainly on the supporter's radar  and they did pass the information to Sky when it should have remained exclusively in the hands of the police. The dossier compiler wasn't a young ingenue naive to the way of the media. They had seen how the McCanns had been treated when made arguidos and must have been only too aware, knowing the value of any McCann-related story, what Sky would do with the information.

That Sky are equally to blame is undeniable but this was a symbiotic relationship and without both their participation Brenda Leyland would in all likelihood be alive today.

The media was already well aware of social media activity and this 'dossier' was just text that was public anyway on twitter or facebook?

And Sky News didn't need to be told what people had been saying online because Burley had already as good as told us we were being watched.

I obviously can't prove it but it's possible Brunt's programme would have happened anyway sooner or later with or without this 'dossier'. They could just have printed tweets and posts themselves. The involvement of an anonymous person just made it 'better TV' for them.

There can't be much doubt after what Burley said that they were already personally involved, even if they hadn't yet done anything - and that was before S&S's book was published, with all that happened before and afterwards.

I just think a witchhunt for someone who just printed information that was already public is just that - a witchhunt. No good will come from it.

Lyall

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Re: Journalist Sonia Poulton promises "The untold story of Madeleine McCann".
« Reply #413 on: January 08, 2015, 01:48:07 AM »
One thing we can be certain of is that they're all still watching us. Media I mean.

Lyall

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Re: Journalist Sonia Poulton promises "The untold story of Madeleine McCann".
« Reply #414 on: January 08, 2015, 02:26:49 AM »
People are confusing the undoubted wish of dossier person or persons to cause trouble for people - via police firstly, and TV secondly - with the mediums that actually did the damage. But legally all the dossier producer did was print information already in the public domain, and any one of us could do the same if so motivated.

Big problem if person or persons are identified and anything happens.

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Re: Journalist Sonia Poulton promises "The untold story of Madeleine McCann".
« Reply #415 on: January 08, 2015, 07:39:05 AM »
Does anyone know why Sonia wishes to out a McCann supporter on her video?  Has anyone got any a view about whether or not this is a good idea and how exactly could it help get justice for Madeleine?  Or is it simply about retribution for Brenda?

Perhaps she has found a supporter with close links to the McCanns and thinks it will make the general public believe all supporters are shills?
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Journalist Sonia Poulton promises "The untold story of Madeleine McCann".
« Reply #416 on: January 08, 2015, 07:52:36 AM »
Perhaps she has found a supporter with close links to the McCanns and thinks it will make the general public believe all supporters are shills?

Are you so deluded that you really think that posters on her are being paid by the mccanns...I have been accused by one poster on here as being close to the mccanns...how absolutely barmy some people are...all it shows are the doubters logic really is way off the mark

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Journalist Sonia Poulton promises "The untold story of Madeleine McCann".
« Reply #417 on: January 08, 2015, 08:11:32 AM »
&%+((£ The whole thread is full of answers to questions like this?
Is it?  So what is Sonia's motivation for outing a McCann supporter then?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Journalist Sonia Poulton promises "The untold story of Madeleine McCann".
« Reply #418 on: January 08, 2015, 08:14:27 AM »
Is it?  So what is Sonia's motivation for outing a McCann supporter then?

Why should a McCann supporter fear being outed......

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Journalist Sonia Poulton promises "The untold story of Madeleine McCann".
« Reply #419 on: January 08, 2015, 08:14:36 AM »
Indeed Lyall.

Lest we forget this is a situation of the McCanns and their supporters making. If the dossier was to highlight the abuse of the couple then it should have been left to the police to take the necessary steps to see that that happened. Of course the faithful expected arrests and the martyrdom of the McCanns again reinforced through tabloid news of those arrests. By the end of September when nothing had happened, and with the faithful's need for revenge still unsated, drastic measures were called for which, as we now know, ultimately lead to the doorstepping of Brenda and her untimely death.

Those who choose to live by the sword, may ultimately die by it.

The dossier compiler was quite happy for Brenda Leyland's privacy to be ripped apart. Isn't it then rather churlish of her to complain when the same fate threatens her ?
So it is all about Old Testament retribution then?  Just as I thought.  I'd say it was supremely hypocritical of Sonia and her supporters to doorstep and expose individuals when not long ago they were braying for Brunt's blood for doing precisely the same thing.