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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #285 on: February 25, 2015, 06:24:25 PM »
That's a bit naive.

Almopst every sceptic believes it is  a fact that eddie alerted to a cadaver and has never been wrong...that's naïve and simply not true...my belief is spot on..


Offline John

Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #286 on: February 25, 2015, 06:26:31 PM »
As this forum's owner has previously made contact with Martin Grime perhaps we can get him on board for this discussion as the case is now closed?

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Offline Anna

Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #287 on: February 25, 2015, 06:26:51 PM »
Watched that this morning.  I believe that is the report that mentions the dog was the same as that used in madeleine McCann case.

At 33.40 on the video, Alfred, the dog is named as "Eddie"
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #288 on: February 25, 2015, 06:28:00 PM »
Almopst every sceptic believes it is  a fact that eddie alerted to a cadaver and has never been wrong...that's naïve and simply not true...my belief is spot on..

Are you really saying that if Madeleine did die in the apartment Eddie alerting there was mere coincidence ?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #289 on: February 25, 2015, 06:37:46 PM »
Are you really saying that if Madeleine did die in the apartment Eddie alerting there was mere coincidence ?

Eddie alerted in 5A ...there is no proof that maddie is dead according to SY...if Maddie is alive...what did Eddie alert to

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Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #290 on: February 25, 2015, 06:44:52 PM »
Watched that this morning.  I believe that is the report that mentions the dog was the same as that used in madeleine McCann case.

investigations at her Redhill Farm home finished a fortnight ago it is understood specialist sniffer dogs used in the search for missing four-year-old Madeleine McCann in Portugal have been used in the investigation and found evidence of Mrs Prout's death.

http://eddieandkeela.blogspot.co.uk/2008/01/eddie-and-keela-two-sniffer-british.html
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Offline Anna

Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #291 on: February 25, 2015, 06:46:31 PM »
investigations at her Redhill Farm home finished a fortnight ago it is understood specialist sniffer dogs used in the search for missing four-year-old Madeleine McCann in Portugal have been used in the investigation and found evidence of Mrs Prout's death.

http://eddieandkeela.blogspot.co.uk/2008/01/eddie-and-keela-two-sniffer-british.html

You just beat me too it, DCI.
Or is it different...

Biggest search in force history
The Citizen
6 February 2010

It was a missing person search which soon turned to a murder inquiry.

Everything Kate possessed was left behind at Redhill Farm. Her keys, car, passport, money, bank cards, handbag, shoes and clothes remained as they were when she was last seen on November 5, 2007.

A total 2,200 councils, police forces, the NHS, and government departments have no record of her existence since that day. She has not touched her £700-a-month teacher's pension.

She kept in regular touch with her family, placed flowers on her parents' graves, and made a note of family and friends' birthdays so that she would not forget to send a card.

But police could not find any evidence of her existence continuing after November 5. Newly released pictures from the police of their home show a farmhouse full of home comforts and a feminine touch; from satin bed covers to a Welsh dresser full of china and pictures of animals on the wall. Kate loved her pet dogs.

On November 14 Gloucestershire Constabulary launched one of its biggest searches for a missing person in its history, calling in specially-trained search officers from other forces to help to comb the 276-acre Redhill Farm and surrounding area.

Bound by the M50 motorway, the A417 and the River Leadon, the search area covered a radius centred on the farm of 1.5km to 2km.

Up to 50 search officers, including some from Gwent and West Mercia forces, went over subdivided sectors of the search area at least twice with broomsticks and specially-designed probes.

A sniffer dog called Eddie, which took part in the hunt for missing Madeleine McCann, could not find any trace of her either. (***Blogger note: Eddie found cadaver scent in Prout home. In November 2011, Adrian Prout confessed to murdering Kate.)

The area was photographed from the air to try and identify recently-disturbed ground, a pile of woodchips and a grain store were searched.

The grain was removed to another site by tractors and trailers and put back once officers were satisfied her body was not in the grain store.

Avon and Somerset police divers searched two ponds at the farm, while Thames Valley police frogmen trawled a reservoir used as a water source for a garden centre, north east of the farm.

Vehicles at the farm, including Kate's Mitsubishi and Mr Prout's Jaguar were forensically examined, as was the farm house.

A forensic biologist was called in to carry out a more detailed examination but no blood was found, DS Christopher Ellis told the trial on January 21. He said there was also no sign of forced entry.

Operation Texas, as it was known, saw a huge desk-based hunt for her too - thousands of organisations were contacted as to Kate Prout's whereabouts and of the 2,000 who replied, none had records of her.

Those included Interpol, the UK Border Agency, Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs, DVLA, local councils, Land Registry, TV licensing, the NHS, dentists, private healthcare providers, utilities, mobile phone operators, Ebay, social networking sites, charities for the homeless and loyalty card organisations.

She was also marked down as a "watched passenger" by the UK Border Agency.

But all this soon pointed the finger of suspicion at her husband. 
http://eddieandkeela.blogspot.co.uk/2008/02/biggest-search-in-force-history.html


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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #292 on: February 25, 2015, 06:46:48 PM »
Are you really saying that if Madeleine did die in the apartment Eddie alerting there was mere coincidence ?
no...what destroys your theory is ..if Maddie did not die in 5a...which is a possibility...what was Eddie alerting to
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Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #293 on: February 25, 2015, 06:51:19 PM »
It is different Anna.
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Offline Anna

Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #294 on: February 25, 2015, 06:56:12 PM »
It is different Anna.

I didn't know there was an Eddie and Keela BlogSpot until now. I will have a read later. Right now I am enjoying the discussion on Adrian Prout, which is on Topic.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #295 on: February 25, 2015, 07:28:07 PM »
Remind me - what is it we're arguing about again?  Prout used a shovel btw.  Does this affect your numbers?
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Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #296 on: February 25, 2015, 07:28:10 PM »
Just ask and I will pass on your queries.
Could you please ask him if the dog searches included all the Prout vehicles, including the car in which he drove the body to the pub. 

Offline faithlilly

Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #297 on: February 25, 2015, 07:57:00 PM »
I didn't know there was an Eddie and Keela BlogSpot until now. I will have a read later. Right now I am enjoying the discussion on Adrian Prout, which is on Topic.

No neither did I Anna but now, thanks to DCI, all the JF readers will know about it.

As will the assorted member's links highlight how Eddie, the dog used in the MM disappearance, alerted to a dead body in the Prout case long before there was tangible  evidence of that body.

To paraphrase good old Johnny Rotten ' ever felt you've been had '  @)(++(*
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #298 on: February 25, 2015, 07:59:18 PM »
No neither did I Anna but now, thanks to DCI, all the JF readers will know about it.

As will the assorted member's links highlight how Eddie, the dog used in the MM disappearance, alerted to a dead body in the Prout case long before there was tangible  evidence of that body.

To paraphrase good old Johnny Rotten ' ever felt you've been had '  @)(++(*

If there are enough alerts...eventually one of them will be right...and yes...you have been had

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body
« Reply #299 on: February 25, 2015, 08:20:31 PM »
Shoddy journalism innit!  Back to curtain here 8(0(*

"She had not struggled at any point but when she stopped moving he realised he had in fact killed her." Det Insp Bean said Prout then went inside his house and had a whisky before returning to the shooting lodge and wrapping her body in a curtain and white plastic sheet. Prout then put Mrs Prout in the back of a Land Rover and drove to the pub.



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"She had not struggled at any point but when she stopped moving he realised he had in fact killed her." Det Insp Bean said Prout then went inside his house...........

Probably sat down on the sofa having a whisky in his death contaminated clothes. Eddie alerted at the sofa.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.