Cadaver Dog Alert Convictions without a body

[Wonderfulspam]

At the risk of appearing to be insensitive, which it certainly is, it would be worth bearing in mind that Mrs Prout had not wrapped herself in plastic sheeting prior to being murdered.

At some stage in the proceedings her remains were in direct contact with the place where she was killed.

At no time were her remains in the house.  Therefore the VRD could not have alerted at the spot where her body had lain.  The alert was just plain wrong.

.....And how long did she lay there, stiff, it could have been just minutes, we'll never know.

...And the alert could be cross contamination, then again it might not, we'll never know.

Either way, sadly, the evil b........ murdered her.

That much we do know.

[Brietta]

.....And how long did she lay there, stiff, it could have been just minutes, we'll never know.

...And the alert could be cross contamination, then again it might not, we'll never know.

Either way, sadly, the evil b........ murdered her.

That much we do know.

Indeed we do know that Kate Prout was murdered by her husband.

Apparently Eddie neglected to indicate exactly where and although we are told he is exceptionally talented where vehicles are concerned ... the silly cookie ignored the Land Rover ... choosing instead a carpet in the farmhouse.

Not good ... however he can add it to the coconut shell error.

[Wonderfulspam]

Indeed we do know that Kate Prout was murdered by her husband.

Apparently Eddie neglected to indicate exactly where and although we are told he is exceptionally talented where vehicles are concerned ... the silly cookie ignored the Land Rover ... choosing instead a carpet in the farmhouse.

Not good ... however he can add it to the coconut shell error.

For how long was she decomposing in the lodge & the Land Rover?

Any idea?

According to the rags, he only drove to the pub with her in the boot, apparently, before returning home & making good use of his digger.

She could have been dead for less than hour before he stuck her in the ground, in which case she'd probably still smell of perfume.

[faithlilly]

Indeed we do know that Kate Prout was murdered by her husband.

Apparently Eddie neglected to indicate exactly where and although we are told he is exceptionally talented where vehicles are concerned ... the silly cookie ignored the Land Rover ... choosing instead a carpet in the farmhouse.

Not good ... however he can add it to the coconut shell error.

Was the body in the Land Rover ?

[Alfred R Jones]

For how long was she decomposing in the lodge & the Land Rover?

Any idea?

According to the rags, he only drove to the pub with her in the boot, apparently, before returning home & making good use of his digger.

She could have been dead for less than hour before he stuck her in the ground, in which case she'd probably still smell of perfume.

You think it's feasible he killed her, had a whiskey, wrapped up her body, loaded it into his Land Rover, drove to the pub (where according to one report he spent the evening, but let's play it your way and say he only stayed for one), drove back to his farm where he drove around his 276 acres looking for a suitable spot to bury her, got out, dug a hole, and then took her out of the Land Rover all within the space of less than an hour do you?  He must be the same sort of super human speed as Gerry then, yar?

[Wonderfulspam]

You think it's feasible he killed her, had a whiskey, wrapped up her body, loaded it into his Land Rover, drove to the pub (where according to one report he spent the evening, but let's play it your way and say he only stayed for one), drove back to his farm where he drove around his 276 acres looking for a suitable spot to bury her, got out, dug a hole, and then took her out of the Land Rover all within the space of less than an hour do you?  He must be the same sort of super human speed as Gerry then, yar?

It's not impossible.

Wouldn't take him long to dig, he had heavy plant.

Maybe he did stay at the boozer for a while,  I'm guessing it aint especially warm in the Gloucestershire countryside during November nights, that'd slow the rot a jot, one might think.

Either way, he's doing bird & that's all that matters.

[Alfred R Jones]

It's not impossible.

Wouldn't take him long to dig, he had heavy plant.

Maybe he did stay at the boozer for a while,  I'm guessing it aint especially warm in the Gloucestershire countryside during November nights, that'd slow the rot a jot, one might think.

Either way, he's doing bird & that's all that matters.

He had heavy plant conveniently located at the precise spot he wanted to bury the body did he? 

Yeah, I'm sure you can think of any number of excuses why the dog didn't alert to a car where a body had lain for several hours, that's all that matters, eh?

[Alfred R Jones]

BTW, Spammy, when exactly did Prout put his wife's corpse in his living room, in your view?  Was that before or after taking her to the pub?

[Wonderfulspam]

He had heavy plant conveniently located at the precise spot he wanted to dig the body did he?

Yeah, I'm sure you can think of any number of excuses why the dog didn't alert to a car where a body had lain for several hours, that's all that matters, eh?

conveniently located at the precise spot

He lived on a farm, he had plant there, that had wheels, go figure!

[Wonderfulspam]

BTW, Spammy, when exactly did Prout put his wife's corpse in his living room, in your view?  Was that before or after taking her to the pub?

Your assuming I believe that all dog indications are proof that a stiff lay at that spot indicated.

I've never said that.

[Alfred R Jones]

conveniently located at the precise spot

He lived on a farm, he had plant there, that had wheels, go figure!

Yes I know that Spammy, but I'm just factoring in the time it would take to drive or walk back to the digger, drive the digger to the burial spot, fetch the body and so on.  It's all looking v-e-r-y tight in under an hour, I'm sure you can see that.

[Alfred R Jones]

Your assuming I believe that all dog indications are proof that a stiff lay at that spot indicated.

I've never said that.

The dog never correctly alerted once in the Adrian Prout case did it?

[Wonderfulspam]

Yes I know that Spammy, but I'm just factoring in the time it would take to drive or walk back to the digger, drive the digger to the burial spot, fetch the body and so on.  It's all looking v-e-r-y tight in under an hour, I'm sure you can see that.

Maybe it was more? Could have been even less!!!

Without knowing the precise details, one can but speculate, wildly, for a lark.

Shame the police files ain't up on the web, we could spend the next 7 to 8 years analysing the timeline.

One disturbing thing that crossed my mind is, if Kate had just settled for £600,000 + maintenance (ie, she wasn't so greedy), she might still be alive today.

Sad but true.

[Wonderfulspam]

The dog never correctly alerted once in the Adrian Prout case did it?

That's impossible to prove really isn't it, considering the dog alerts don't prove anything, as we're often reminded.

[Alfred R Jones]

That's impossible to prove really isn't it, considering the dog alerts don't prove anything, as we're often reminded.

Where DID the dog alert?  In the living room.  According to you the corpse would not have started to emit any sort of odour until after Prout had buried it (conveniently allowing the dog to have failed to alert in the car), so what can we deduce from this?  If the dog alerted, it wasn't to a corpse!  Nor would there have been any cross-contamination cos Speedy ol' Prout did the whole murder to burial in under an hour!