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Offline adam

Did Bamber steal June's bike ?
« on: January 19, 2015, 07:43:39 PM »
If so that is potentially three crimes against his family pre massacre. So much for me saying inheritance killers commit zero or minimal crime prior to their killings.

There was the mentioned crime against Chris Neville's sister in New Zealand, Bamber leaving the country in a hurry. And the caravan break in which Bamber testified he did out of greed. 

There are also rumours of stealing expensive watches while abroad, although this is not a crime against his family.

I joked about him stealing June's bike on another forum. And was called a liar by another poster. But the likelihood is the bike was taken by Bamber without permission.

When interviewed he said June and Neville knew about him taking the bike. June apparently did not 'get along with it'. Perhaps she should not have bought it then.

June's relationship with him had become non existent since 1978, Bamber said. Although there is a possibility it became non existent over ten years earlier. Jeremy agreeing with Mary Mugford's testimony that he never forgave June for sending him to boarding school. 

June did not approve of Julies relationship with Jeremy. So unlikely to encourage it by giving Julie her bike.

Recent relationships with June would have just got worse. Neville and June financing Sheila and the twins in London, while making Bamber work long hours for his income.

June was also the person who refused to continue financing Bamber's extensive jaunts abroad. Sending him an airline ticket home, rather than more money he had demanded. After this he would have to work in order to get money from June & Neville. Or go it alone.

So it seems unlikely June would give Bamber her bike. He already had a car and free petrol. He could afford to buy his own bike. He had not bought a bike for himself to use. So what was Julie going to use the bike on her own for ? When she actually bothered to travel over in a declining relationship. 

The bike was brought over just before the massacre. Bamber no doubt hoping no one noticed it had gone missing. Or if they did notice it missing, no one would suspect him. If it was found at his cottage before the massacre he could just say it was for Julie.

Do other people believe Bamber stole June's bike ? 
« Last Edit: January 26, 2015, 01:24:03 AM by John »

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Did Bamber steal June's bike ?
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2015, 08:46:36 AM »
If so that is potentially three crimes against his family pre massacre. So much for me saying inheritance killers commit zero or minimal crime prior to their killings.

There was the mentioned crime against Chris Neville's sister in New Zealand, Bamber leaving the country in a hurry. And the caravan break in which Bamber testified he did out of greed. 

There are also rumours of stealing expensive watches while abroad, although this is not a crime against his family.

I joked about him stealing June's bike on another forum. And was called a liar by another poster. But the likelihood is the bike was taken by Bamber without permission.

When interviewed he said June and Neville knew about him taking the bike. June apparently did not 'get along with it'. Perhaps she should not have bought it then.

June's relationship with him had become non existent since 1978, Bamber said. Although there is a possibility it became non existent over ten years earlier. Jeremy agreeing with Mary Mugford's testimony that he never forgave June for sending him to boarding school. 

June did not approve of Julies relationship with Jeremy. So unlikely to encourage it by giving Julie her bike.

Recent relationships with June would have just got worse. Neville and June financing Sheila and the twins in London, while making Bamber work long hours for his income.

June was also the person who refused to continue financing Bamber's extensive jaunts abroad. Sending him an airline ticket home, rather than more money he had demanded. After this he would have to work in order to get money from June & Neville. Or go it alone.

So it seems unlikely June would give Bamber her bike. He already had a car and free petrol. He could afford to buy his own bike. He had not bought a bike for himself to use. So what was Julie going to use the bike on her own for ? When she actually bothered to travel over in a declining relationship. 

The bike was brought over just before the massacre. Bamber no doubt hoping no one noticed it had gone missing. Or if they did notice it missing, no one would suspect him. If it was found at his cottage before the massacre he could just say it was for Julie.

Do other people believe Bamber stole June's bike ?

If JB stole off Chris Neville's sister in New Zealand then surely he would have made a formal statement to the police about that?  He stayed at WHF in a campervan with PE to safeguard the property post tragedy until the door had been replaced I assume. 

We don't even know the name of the sister.  It's a snippet from Wilke's book and JB's side of the story is that NB told JB Chris Neville's sister owed him some money from when he visited and JB should reclaim it and use it to fund part of his trip.  I guess it was in NZ dollars.

There are lots of rumours about all sorts of things eg SC had a 40k drug debt.  This is just crazy that a drug dealer would allow a woman who had no assets or income to clock up a 40k drug debt that in today's terms would equate to £84,737.41.

Yes when JB spent time in the Antipodes he supposedly stole two expensive Cartier watches along with a bag of diamonds that he lived off.  Oh and he was supposedly involved with a murder and importing heroin too?  I guess the Aussie police were too busy down on the beach or lighting up the barbies to be bothered pursuing these things?  Perhaps the Cartier watches were replicas from a street trader?   

There's no evidence June disliked JM per se she just didn't agree with JB and JM semi-living together at GH.  Which to my mind begs the question that if she didn't approve of this behaviour in an era when it was considered the norm how did she adjust psychologically/accept the two illegitimate babies she adopted in an era where illegitimacy was considered a social taboo?  Well she didn't did she, at least not with SC, that is why she needed in-patient psychiatric treatment and electro-convulsive treatment to cope with severe depression bought on by her decision to adopt SC.

If June disliked JM that much why did she offer to buy her a property?  If she was prepared to buy JM a property then I am sure she would allow JM to borrow her bike?

No I don't believe JB stole the bike.  I think it was all entirely innocent in that JB simply bought the bike over for JM to use as and when she wanted.

Haven't we done the bike to death?  The bottom line is that EP examined the bike and no traces of any incriminating evidence were found on it. 

Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline John

Re: Did Bamber steal June's bike ?
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2015, 01:23:52 AM »
I don't think he stole the bike, more so he borrowed it.  Jeremy said he got it so that Julie could get to London using various public transport but Julie denied this.  More lies apparently!
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Did Bamber steal June's bike ?
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2015, 09:55:18 PM »
Something else I picked up from CAL's book:

On 6th Sept JB asked Julie if she wanted anything from the house and she said she wanted the bike for travelling to college:

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=283.0;attach=1072

 &%+((£
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline anglolawyer

Re: Did Bamber steal June's bike ?
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2015, 11:39:58 PM »
Is there any evidence of Julie actually using the bike?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Did Bamber steal June's bike ?
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2015, 08:57:16 AM »
Is there any evidence of Julie actually using the bike?

According to CAL's book it appears he didn't actually take the bike ie hand it over to JM.  Maybe that's why she grassed him up  8)--))
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline anglolawyer

Re: Did Bamber steal June's bike ?
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2015, 04:09:40 PM »
According to CAL's book it appears he didn't actually take the bike ie hand it over to JM.  Maybe that's why she grassed him up  8)--))
Heh.   Hadn't thought of it.   But if he borrowed it for Julie to use it would be kinda normal for her to be seen around the village actually using it.   According to Ann Eaton, June used it for visiting an aged relative in Goldhanger three times a week.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Did Bamber steal June's bike ?
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2015, 04:27:44 PM »
Heh.   Hadn't thought of it.   But if he borrowed it for Julie to use it would be kinda normal for her to be seen around the village actually using it.   According to Ann Eaton, June used it for visiting an aged relative in Goldhanger three times a week.

According to CAL's book June had recently purchased the bike for a charity event (? or did I dream that) but definitely to get back to nature but found it squeaked.  JB tested it, annoying June and BW in the process by screeching around on it and pulling up short in front of them, and found it was ok.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?