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[Mr Gray]

That is untrue davel so please refrain from posting speculation as fact.  Nobody knows what happened to Madeleine even now unless the person or persons who might have had an involvement in her disappearance.

There is no evidence to support an abduction and most definitely no proof that one took place.

It isn't speculation
It depends on what level of proof is required
You do realise there are different levels of proof

[stephen25000]

It isn't speculation
It depends on what level of proof is required
You do realise there are different levels of proof

Not even ground zero for abduction.

[Admin]

It isn't speculation
It depends on what level of proof is required
You do realise there are different levels of proof

There is no proof...end off!

[carlymichelle]

There is no proof...end off!

One wonders why. Dave is so committed to abduction he won't accept anything else

[Mr Gray]

There is no proof...end off!

the civil level of proof ..as used in court is the balance of probabilities... I would say that as Sy have said that the mccanns are not suspects then on the balance of probabilities abduction is what happened...you might not like it but that's how it is. You are also wrong to say there is no evidence of abduction....Redwood himself has said that based on the evidence he believes maddie was abducted...

[G-Unit]

the civil level of proof ..as used in court is the balance of probabilities... I would say that as Sy have said that the mccanns are not suspects then on the balance of probabilities abduction is what happened...you might not like it but that's how it is. You are also wrong to say there is no evidence of abduction....Redwood himself has said that based on the evidence he believes maddie was abducted...

Redwood?  The yesterday man?

[pathfinder73]

the civil level of proof ..as used in court is the balance of probabilities... I would say that as Sy have said that the mccanns are not suspects then on the balance of probabilities abduction is what happened...you might not like it but that's how it is. You are also wrong to say there is no evidence of abduction....Redwood himself has said that based on the evidence he believes maddie was abducted...

And if they are SY are not going to tell you or other supporters. The PJ said they weren't suspects in 2007 but they lied 

[Admin]

the civil level of proof ..as used in court is the balance of probabilities... I would say that as Sy have said that the mccanns are not suspects then on the balance of probabilities abduction is what happened...you might not like it but that's how it is. You are also wrong to say there is no evidence of abduction....Redwood himself has said that based on the evidence he believes maddie was abducted...

Seems it is you who are confused davel.  I said there is no proof, I did not say there was no evidence.

That evidence however is minimal and highly tenuous.

[Mr Gray]

Seems it is you who are confused davel.  I said there is no proof, I did not say there was no evidence.

That evidence however is minimal and highly tenuous.

I'm not confused...your post...

There is no evidence to support an abduction and most definitely no proof that one took place.

[G-Unit]

anyone who believes the McCanns will be ridiculed ...we have come to expect your mindset

Are you saying Redwood believed the McCanns? I don't remember him saying that. He also got rid of the sighting they promoted for years and concentrated on the one they played down.  It's not ridicule to say he's yesterday's man, he is as irrelevant to the present investigations as Amaral is.

[Mr Gray]

Are you saying Redwood believed the McCanns? I don't remember him saying that. He also got rid of the sighting they promoted for years and concentrated on the one they played down.  It's not ridicule to say he's yesterday's man, he is as irrelevant to the present investigations as Amaral is.

definitely gold medal material

[pathfinder73]

I'm not confused...your post...

There is no evidence to support an abduction and most definitely no proof that one took place.

There is no evidence to support it only an unidentified man who was seen carrying a lookalike child. Nobody can vouch for an open window except what they were told. The police just found a tampered crime scene with shutters down and window closed.

[Alice Purjorick]

Are you saying Redwood believed the McCanns? I don't remember him saying that. He also got rid of the sighting they promoted for years and concentrated on the one they played down.  It's not ridicule to say he's yesterday's man, he is as irrelevant to the present investigations as Amaral is.

From a link Brietta posted about a week or so ago:

"We still have very definite lines to pursue which is why we are keeping a dedicated team of officers working on the case.
"The Portuguese police remain the lead investigators and our team will continue to support their inquiry.
"Speaking to The Portugal News on Wednesday, a Portuguese police source said that while there are “about two or three other cases of missing children in Portugal, but we have a reasonable understanding of who might be responsible for their disappearance. However in the case of Madeleine McCann, we are yet to come up with a satisfactory explanation as to what happened to her”,

[Brietta]

From a link Brietta posted about a week or so ago:

"We still have very definite lines to pursue which is why we are keeping a dedicated team of officers working on the case.
"The Portuguese police remain the lead investigators and our team will continue to support their inquiry.
"Speaking to The Portugal News on Wednesday, a Portuguese police source said that while there are “about two or three other cases of missing children in Portugal, but we have a reasonable understanding of who might be responsible for their disappearance. However in the case of Madeleine McCann, we are yet to come up with a satisfactory explanation as to what happened to her”,

It was actually quite refreshing not to have had the anonymous "Portuguese police source" or even "sources close to the inquiry" dispensing propaganda to the media.
Based on past evidence about the deliberate inaccuracies imparted in this way ... it is probably a good idea to await official announcements from a verifiable source.

[stephen25000]

It was actually quite refreshing not to have had the anonymous "Portuguese police source" or even "sources close to the inquiry" dispensing propaganda to the media.
Based on past evidence about the deliberate inaccuracies imparted in this way ... it is probably a good idea to await official announcements from a verifiable source.

Yet you are quite happy to have propaganda from the mccanns or sources close to them.