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« Reply #450 on: November 09, 2015, 10:16:58 PM »
I'm not confused...your post...

There is no evidence to support an abduction and most definitely no proof that one took place.

The operative word was 'support'.

Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #451 on: November 09, 2015, 10:18:31 PM »
The operative word was 'support'.

no...the operative word is evidence

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« Reply #452 on: November 10, 2015, 02:43:31 AM »
no...the operative word is evidence

Again you fail to comprehend the fact that there was evidence but none to SUPPORT an abduction.

The word SUPPORT is thus the operative word.

An abduction is but one of several possible scenarios in relation to what befell Madeleine McCann, no investigators have as yet provided any proof to favour one theory over another. 

The jury is still firmly out on that one.
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Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #453 on: November 10, 2015, 07:45:25 AM »
Again you fail to comprehend the fact that there was evidence but none to SUPPORT an abduction.

The word SUPPORT is thus the operative word.

An abduction is but one of several possible scenarios in relation to what befell Madeleine McCann, no investigators have as yet provided any proof to favour one theory over another. 

The jury is still firmly out on that one.

redwood states that based on the evidence he believes Maddie was abducted

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Documentaries & Articles for Discussion
« Reply #454 on: November 10, 2015, 07:49:23 AM »
Again you fail to comprehend the fact that there was evidence but none to SUPPORT an abduction.

The word SUPPORT is thus the operative word.

An abduction is but one of several possible scenarios in relation to what befell Madeleine McCann, no investigators have as yet provided any proof to favour one theory over another. 

The jury is still firmly out on that one.

could you explain what level of proof you are talking about...absolute...criminal...or civil....
OJ simpson was guilty based on the civil level...and paid damages ...but was found not guilty at the criminal level...

If the parents are not suspects...as Redwood has said...then stranger abduction is odds on
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Documentaries & Articles for Discussion
« Reply #455 on: November 10, 2015, 08:03:01 AM »
Again you fail to comprehend the fact that there was evidence but none to SUPPORT an abduction.

The word SUPPORT is thus the operative word.

An abduction is but one of several possible scenarios in relation to what befell Madeleine McCann, no investigators have as yet provided any proof to favour one theory over another. 

The jury is still firmly out on that one.
A missing child is evidence that supports abduction, an open window that was previously shut is evidence that supports abduction, man seen walking through town at night with a child that resembles the missing child is evidence that supports abduction.  Your opinion of that evidence is neither here nor there, the fact is there is evidence which supports abduction, whether you accept it or not. If and when it is proven that Madeleine was abducted all those bits of evidence I have highlighted may well prove to be valuable evidence in the case against the perpetrator,

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« Reply #456 on: November 10, 2015, 08:06:51 AM »
redwood states that based on the evidence he believes Maddie was abducted

Of course you have a cite showing that direct statement?
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« Reply #457 on: November 10, 2015, 08:10:54 AM »
Of course you have a cite showing that direct statement?

it was in the video Alfred posted.....I can understand your surprise that it is a fact

stephen25000

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« Reply #458 on: November 10, 2015, 08:19:12 AM »
A missing child is evidence that supports abduction, an open window that was previously shut is evidence that supports abduction, man seen walking through town at night with a child that resembles the missing child is evidence that supports abduction.  Your opinion of that evidence is neither here nor there, the fact is there is evidence which supports abduction, whether you accept it or not. If and when it is proven that Madeleine was abducted all those bits of evidence I have highlighted may well prove to be valuable evidence in the case against the perpetrator,

A missing child also supports accidental death.

A missing child also supports her walking out of the apartment.

Now Alfred, let's have the evidence for abduction, and in the REAL WORLD.


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« Reply #459 on: November 10, 2015, 08:26:24 AM »
A missing child is evidence that supports abduction, an open window that was previously shut is evidence that supports abduction, man seen walking through town at night with a child that resembles the missing child is evidence that supports abduction.  Your opinion of that evidence is neither here nor there, the fact is there is evidence which supports abduction, whether you accept it or not. If and when it is proven that Madeleine was abducted all those bits of evidence I have highlighted may well prove to be valuable evidence in the case against the perpetrator,

When a child is reported missing police don't see that as evidence of abduction. It's just one possibility.

An open window isn't evidence. Fingerprints, fibres, signs of forcing the window open are evidence.

A man seen carrying a child isn't evidence of an abduction, as was demonstrated by 'Tannerman' becoming 'Crecheman'.
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« Reply #460 on: November 10, 2015, 08:27:59 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EyqHtsLeGQ  What Redwood said.  Feel free to cherry-pick as you please.

25:55 The importance of the sightings

Madeleine McCann's disappearance does, on one reading of the evidence, have the hallmarks of a pre-planned abduction. That would undoubtedly have involved reconnaissance, and so we are really keen to understand who these people were.

They may all be separate.  So it is really important this evening to say to the public that if you recognize yourself then please have the courage to come forward, because it is really important for us to eliminate any sightings that are innocent and have nothing to do with Madeleine's disappearance.

26:28 The burglaries
As well as that line of inquiry, and the sighting by the Irish family of a man carrying a child, the police are also looking at a third important strand of their investigation.

We have noticed that there was, between January and the time Madeleine went missing, a four-fold increase in the number of burglaries that were taking place in the vicinity.

In the three weeks prior to her disappearance, two incidents took place in the very block when Madeleine slept.  In both, windows were used to gain access.

Possibly, there is a scenario where Madeleine could have disturbed somebody trying to commit a burglary.
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« Reply #461 on: November 10, 2015, 08:38:46 AM »
the fact that the mccanns are not suspects means accidental death has been ruled out

Have you asked Ms. Wall that question ?

The repetition of abduction by mccann supporters despite the lack of evidence reminds me of a certain German Propagandist, and of course, without the 'abduction' there is only accidental death, or wandering off scenarios to look at, both bad for the mccanns.


and ONE more time, CRIME UNKNOWN,

You can't eliminate possible suspects in this situation.

stephen25000

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« Reply #462 on: November 10, 2015, 08:40:56 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EyqHtsLeGQ  What Redwood said.  Feel free to cherry-pick as you please.

25:55 The importance of the sightings

Madeleine McCann's disappearance does, on one reading of the evidence, have the hallmarks of a pre-planned abduction. That would undoubtedly have involved reconnaissance, and so we are really keen to understand who these people were.

They may all be separate.  So it is really important this evening to say to the public that if you recognize yourself then please have the courage to come forward, because it is really important for us to eliminate any sightings that are innocent and have nothing to do with Madeleine's disappearance.

26:28 The burglaries
As well as that line of inquiry, and the sighting by the Irish family of a man carrying a child, the police are also looking at a third important strand of their investigation.

We have noticed that there was, between January and the time Madeleine went missing, a four-fold increase in the number of burglaries that were taking place in the vicinity.

In the three weeks prior to her disappearance, two incidents took place in the very block when Madeleine slept.  In both, windows were used to gain access.

Possibly, there is a scenario where Madeleine could have disturbed somebody trying to commit a burglary.

Yet in this case, no evidence of a break in.

Even Mitchell acknowledged that.

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« Reply #463 on: November 10, 2015, 09:08:48 AM »
Have you asked Ms. Wall that question ?

The repetition of abduction by mccann supporters despite the lack of evidence reminds me of a certain German Propagandist, and of course, without the 'abduction' there is only accidental death, or wandering off scenarios to look at, both bad for the mccanns.


and ONE more time, CRIME UNKNOWN,

You can't eliminate possible suspects in this situation.

SY did....Redwood told us...PROOF you are wrong


stephen25000

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« Reply #464 on: November 10, 2015, 09:15:10 AM »
SY did....Redwood told us...PROOF you are wrong

CRIME UNKNOWN dave.

What part of that don't you get ?

Now let's have the carte blanche evidence of abduction  8)--))