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[Alfred R Jones]

In the article linked it says:
"This over-the-counter medicine contains promethazine, a sedating antihistamine. Usually administered on the advice of a GP to treat motion sickness or discomfort from certain allergies, it has become the secret weapon for many middle-class mothers embarking on long-haul flights".

I can read.  Does the article quantify "many"? 

Was Madeleine abducted whilst on a long-haul flight? 

Just a couple of the questions I'm sure you'd be asking if the boot was on the other foot.

[Alfred R Jones]

I think the fact that neither her nor her husband raised concerns about the non-responsive state of the twins  is one of the biggest reg flags of the whole case.

Is that why the PJ cross-questioned both Kate and Gerry about this huge red flag during their arguido interviews?

Oh, wait...

[G-Unit]

But the question as to whether the intruder had used drugs on the children is not what you are referring to is it?
Could you clarify please?

What intruder?

[Alfred R Jones]

What intruder?

what drugs?

[Mr Gray]

In the article linked it says:
"This over-the-counter medicine contains promethazine, a sedating antihistamine. Usually administered on the advice of a GP to treat motion sickness or discomfort from certain allergies, it has become the secret weapon for many middle-class mothers embarking on long-haul flights".

so unless these mothers are habitually flying long haul they are not habitually sedating their children.

[Lace]

I think the fact that neither her nor her husband raised concerns about the non-responsive state of the twins  is one of the biggest reg flags of the whole case.

Kate said in her book she asked the police for the twins to be checked for drugs on the night of the 3rd of May.

Oh I forgot,   nothing Kate says is true is it?

[stephen25000]

Kate said in her book she asked the police for the twins to be checked for drugs on the night of the 3rd of May.

Oh I forgot,   nothing Kate says is true is it?

How do you know she said it  ?

and what prevented them or the PJ having it done ?

[Alice Purjorick]

I can read.  Does the article quantify "many"? 

Was Madeleine abducted whilst on a long-haul flight? 

Just a couple of the questions I'm sure you'd be asking if the boot was on the other foot.

1 Many is many ie "a large number of" large is  "considerable" so no many is neither quantified nor quantifiable in this instance if any instance. I guess were the number quantifiable the author would have said "n" rather than many.
2 No! (I am surprised you had to ask).
3 Probably depending on what else was going on.

[Lace]

How do you know she said it  ?

and what prevented them or the PJ having it done ?

How do you know anyone said anything?     You don't know what was said,   Kate said she asked on the night of the 3rd,   whether the police thought to themselves 'what is she talking about,  drugged?   the child has wandered'   they were treating it as a child who had wandered and got lost,  so they probably didn't take any notice of an hysterical mother talking about her twins being drugged.   

What DID prevent the PJ from having the children tested?   I would assume all the information of the night would have been passed on,   the twins not waking up,   Madeleine not being found,  the window open.   You would think that the person in charge may have wondered if the twins had been drugged yet they didn't have them tested.   Then three months later Amaral is accusing the McCann's of drugging Madeleine,    unbelievable.

[Alice Purjorick]

so unless these mothers are habitually flying long haul they are not habitually sedating their children.

Where did "habitual" come into it?

[stephen25000]

How do you know anyone said anything?     You don't know what was said,   Kate said she asked on the night of the 3rd,   whether the police thought to themselves 'what is she talking about,  drugged?   the child has wandered'   they were treating it as a child who had wandered and got lost,  so they probably didn't take any notice of an hysterical mother talking about her twins being drugged.   

What DID prevent the PJ from having the children tested?   I would assume all the information of the night would have been passed on,   the twins not waking up,   Madeleine not being found,  the window open.   You would think that the person in charge may have wondered if the twins had been drugged yet they didn't have them tested.   Then three months later Amaral is accusing the McCann's of drugging Madeleine,    unbelievable.

I'm blaming the mccanns and the PJ.

The mccanns as doctors should have insisted upon it.

[Mr Gray]

I think the fact that neither her nor her husband raised concerns about the non-responsive state of the twins  is one of the biggest reg flags of the whole case.

I think your use of the words "red flag" tell us alot

[Alfred R Jones]

1 Many is many ie "a large number of" large is  "considerable" so no many is neither quantified nor quantifiable in this instance if any instance. I guess were the number quantifiable the author would have said "n" rather than many.
2 No! (I am surprised you had to ask).
3 Probably depending on what else was going on.

So, to summarise - it's just of unsubstantiated, irrelevant hot air, but thanks for your contribution - priceless as always.

[faithlilly]

Is that why the PJ cross-questioned both Kate and Gerry about this huge red flag during their arguido interviews?

Oh, wait...

They may have done if any of the witnesses had actually mentioned that there seemed to be some concern over the twins. I believe it wasn't mentioned by even Fiona Payne until the rogatory interviews.

[ferryman]

They may have done if any of the witnesses had actually mentioned that there seemed to be some concern over the twins. I believe it wasn't mentioned by even Fiona Payne until the rogatory interviews.

We know from the reports of liaison officers that (either Kate or Gerry, I can't remember which) enquired of the PJ whether sedatives might have been used in the abduction.

I am police officer Markley of the Leicestershire Police currently working in the criminal unit.

In 2007 and in relation to the Portuguese investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, I was detached to Portugal in the role of family communication officer.

According to the Portuguese PJ Letter of Request, I was asked to respond to the following question:

Was there anything done or said by Kate or Gerry McCann in your presence or during your various meetings that could raise any suspicion that they had any knowledge about what could have happened to Madeleine, beyond the circumstances described to the Portuguese investigators?

My reply to the question was: No.

However, in relation to the above, I would like to add the following: At about 20.00 on Saturday 5th May 2007, I arrived at the apartment where Kate and Gerry were staying, with other officers. During the meeting Gerald and Kate had a number of questions to which they wanted follow up and responses from the PJ.

One of these questions was that they wanted the PJ to be aware of was Madeleine's revelation about Wednesday night, when she said that she was left alone during the night. She told Kate and Gerry that she remembered the twins crying and that she wanted to know why neither her mother nor her father had gone to the room to see what was happening.

They also wanted to know whether the PJ had any evidence that would suggest that the person who took Madeleine had used any substance to facilitate the abduction.


This statement was made by me and is truthful in accordance with my understanding.