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Offline Benice

Re: Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?
« Reply #225 on: March 07, 2015, 08:45:01 PM »
I don't know so much about obsession, per say, (perhaps in some chats) I think this case being the mystery it is, is a draw or constant disussion thanks to the Family and 'friends' of the family, (PR) to keep up interest. Which keeps the 'fund'  filled, well untill people became more interested,due to the Portugal court case.

The Family no longer enjoy the great support they had in the beginning. Perhaps due to apathy, or people becomming more savvy about what  acutally happened minus the smoke screen! OR becoming bored with the claims about abduction.

As both SY and the PJ have ruled the parents out as suspects, can you explain what has enabled people to become ''more savvy about what actually happened.''     What is it they know about the particulars of this case which SY must have missed -  and from where did they get this new information?

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?
« Reply #226 on: March 07, 2015, 08:54:13 PM »
More savvy as in becoming aware of the lies being told by the parents. eg the distance from the apartment, the timeline for checking, using the fund for which they were unaware before what the money was being used for..but then SY know this already...just some people who were taking in all the McCann PR no longer do so.

Shame!
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Benice

Re: Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?
« Reply #227 on: March 07, 2015, 09:19:57 PM »
More savvy as in becoming aware of the lies being told by the parents. eg the distance from the apartment, the timeline for checking, using the fund for which they were unaware before what the money was being used for..but then SY know this already...just some people who were taking in all the McCann PR no longer do so.

Shame!

So why do you think SY and the PJ have decided to ignore all these lies which are apparently so obvious to you?

After all, unlike ourselves, they have the advantage of having all - not just some - of the professionally translated files/statements and the ability to interview anyone at any time - and so obviously are in a far better position to identify any lies than we are.    If they have indeed identified lies by the parents  - then they must have decided to turn a blind eye to them because they have ruled them out as suspects.    Why would they do that?   It makes no sense to me.

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?
« Reply #228 on: March 07, 2015, 09:48:01 PM »
So why do you think SY and the PJ have decided to ignore all these lies which are apparently so obvious to you?

After all, unlike ourselves, they have the advantage of having all - not just some - of the professionally translated files/statements and the ability to interview anyone at any time - and so obviously are in a far better position to identify any lies than we are.    If they have indeed identified lies by the parents  - then they must have decided to turn a blind eye to them because they have ruled them out as suspects.    Why would they do that?   It makes no sense to me.


They are obvious to everyone not just me. Let's be clear about that. You chose not to see it. That is fine,just don't deny it, it makes you look like you have an 'agenda'.

There are NO suspects...NO evidence- NO charges being brought- crime of the century.  This does not mean the SY and PJ believe the McCanns to be 'innocent' of anything. No blind eyes have been
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Benice

Re: Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?
« Reply #229 on: March 07, 2015, 09:58:07 PM »

They are obvious to everyone not just me. Let's be clear about that. You chose not to see it. That is fine,just don't deny it, it makes you look like you have an 'agenda'.

There are NO suspects...NO evidence- NO charges being brought- crime of the century.  This does not mean the SY and PJ believe the McCanns to be 'innocent' of anything. No blind eyes have been

So what do you think the PJ and SY believe the McCanns are guilty of?   
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Brietta

Re: Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?
« Reply #230 on: March 07, 2015, 10:00:46 PM »

They are obvious to everyone not just me. Let's be clear about that. You chose not to see it. That is fine,just don't deny it, it makes you look like you have an 'agenda'.

There are NO suspects...NO evidence- NO charges being brought- crime of the century.  This does not mean the SY and PJ believe the McCanns to be 'innocent' of anything. No blind eyes have been


The arguidos in Portugal would be so relieved if they knew of that learned analysis. 

Yup! I think it probably makes the top rating as an example of obsession.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?
« Reply #231 on: March 08, 2015, 09:12:28 AM »
So what do you think the PJ and SY believe the McCanns are guilty of?

I have no idea what they believe, but, as you and your ilk keep posting the 'not suspects' rant, it has become clear that you all believe this is a verdict of 'not guilty' of something.  I was just correcting that assumption. They have not been declared  'not guilty' of something.

NB: I have posted under 370 posts, you and the other non obsessive, Brietta have posted thousands of times...

All that goading and name calling  goes way above my head. I think you lot are hilarious!

I did giggle at being called obsessive by Bretta, oh the irony!!

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Offline G-Unit

Re: Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?
« Reply #232 on: March 08, 2015, 10:15:00 AM »
As I understand it the PJ discovered new material which they believed justified the reopening of their investigation. The Portugese Attorney General agreed. I can't find anything which says they have ruled anyone out of their investigation, but am happy to be corrected by reference to a reliable source.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/10402102/Madeleine-McCann-case-reopened-by-Portugal-police.html

Regardless of the intentions or beliefs of Operation Grange the Portugese authorities retain the lead in the investigation.
http://content.met.police.uk/Article/Operation-Grange/1400005508791/35434

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?
« Reply #233 on: March 08, 2015, 10:25:42 AM »
As I understand it the PJ discovered new material which they believed justified the reopening of their investigation. The Portugese Attorney General agreed. I can't find anything which says they have ruled anyone out of their investigation, but am happy to be corrected by reference to a reliable source.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/10402102/Madeleine-McCann-case-reopened-by-Portugal-police.html

Regardless of the intentions or beliefs of Operation Grange the Portugese authorities retain the lead in the investigation.
http://content.met.police.uk/Article/Operation-Grange/1400005508791/35434

I think it  is blatantly obvious the McCanns are not suspects. It doesn't matter what either police force say re the situation as the sceptics simply would not believe it.....an ostrich head in the sand mentality

Offline Benice

Re: Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?
« Reply #234 on: March 08, 2015, 10:32:52 AM »
As I understand it the PJ discovered new material which they believed justified the reopening of their investigation. The Portugese Attorney General agreed. I can't find anything which says they have ruled anyone out of their investigation, but am happy to be corrected by reference to a reliable source.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/10402102/Madeleine-McCann-case-reopened-by-Portugal-police.html

Regardless of the intentions or beliefs of Operation Grange the Portugese authorities retain the lead in the investigation.
http://content.met.police.uk/Article/Operation-Grange/1400005508791/35434

I find it difficult to believe that anyone interested in this case has missed DCI Redwood's statement that neither the McCanns nor their friends are either suspects or persons of interest in this case!

What could be more clear? And who could be deemed a more reliable source than the police officer in charge of the investigation?

Personally I have only read press articles regarding the PJ stating they were not suspects - and also that the McCanns have met the Oporto team.    This is an extract from the Times article which also reported on the Efits - whether you regard it as 'reliable' or not is your prerogative.

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There was also an uncomfortable complication with Smith’s account. He had originally told the police that he had “recognised something” about the way Gerry McCann carried one of his children which reminded him of the man he had seen in Praia da Luz.

Smith has since stressed that he does not believe the man he saw was Gerry, and Scotland Yard do not consider this a possibility. Last week the McCanns were told officially by the Portuguese authorities that they are not suspects.
unquote



The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?
« Reply #235 on: March 08, 2015, 10:43:39 AM »
I find it difficult to believe that anyone interested in this case has missed DCI Redwood's statement that neither the McCanns nor their friends are either suspects or persons of interest in this case!

What could be more clear? And who could be deemed a more reliable source than the police officer in charge of the investigation?

Personally I have only read press articles regarding the PJ stating they were not suspects - and also that the McCanns have met the Oporto team.    This is an extract from the Times article which also reported on the Efits - whether you regard it as 'reliable' or not is your prerogative.

Quote
There was also an uncomfortable complication with Smith’s account. He had originally told the police that he had “recognised something” about the way Gerry McCann carried one of his children which reminded him of the man he had seen in Praia da Luz.

Smith has since stressed that he does not believe the man he saw was Gerry, and Scotland Yard do not consider this a possibility. Last week the McCanns were told officially by the Portuguese authorities that they are not suspects.
unquote

Oh let me make this easier to those who wish to remove their heads from the sand.

The great believers tell us that The McCanns are not suspects...not suspects in what?  what is being investigated?  Well, as we are also told by the great believers SY and PJ are investigating the ABDUCTION THEORY. and it is only a theory!

So, let us deduce from this information that IN THE ABDUCTION THEORY, being investigated, the parents are not suspects.

The abduction Theory has yet to be verified and evidenced, in the absence of this..IT IS STILL A THEORY, like many others!


AND as a matter of fact DCI Redwood is not in charge of any 'investigation , in Portugal.

Now, what about other theories...has anyone in any Police force said they are not suspects?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?
« Reply #236 on: March 08, 2015, 10:47:09 AM »
I find it difficult to believe that anyone interested in this case has missed DCI Redwood's statement that neither the McCanns nor their friends are either suspects or persons of interest in this case!

What could be more clear? And who could be deemed a more reliable source than the police officer in charge of the investigation?

Personally I have only read press articles regarding the PJ stating they were not suspects - and also that the McCanns have met the Oporto team.    This is an extract from the Times article which also reported on the Efits - whether you regard it as 'reliable' or not is your prerogative.


Oh let me make this easier to those who wish to remove their heads from the sand.

The great believers tell us that The McCanns are not suspects...not suspects in what?  what is being investigated?  Well, as we are also told by the great believers SY and PJ are investigating the ABDUCTION THEORY. and it is only a theory!

So, let us deduce from this information that IN THE ABDUCTION THEORY, being investigated, the parents are not suspects.

The abduction Theory has yet to be verified and evidenced, in the absence of this..IT IS STILL A THEORY, like many others!


AND as a matter of fact DCI Redwood is not in charge of any 'investigation , in Portugal.

Now, what about other theories...has anyone in any Police force said they are not suspects?

The McCanns are not suspects and are not being investigated into Maddie's disappearance...that's it

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?
« Reply #237 on: March 08, 2015, 10:52:37 AM »
The McCanns are not suspects and are not being investigated into Maddie's disappearance...that's it


So, Suspects they are then.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?
« Reply #238 on: March 08, 2015, 10:58:30 AM »
I don't know how this post was caught inside someone eles's but THIS is my section, apologies if this confused anyone.


Oh let me make this easier to those who wish to remove their heads from the sand.

The great believers tell us that The McCanns are not suspects...not suspects in what?  what is being investigated?  Well, as we are also told by the great believers SY and PJ are investigating the ABDUCTION THEORY. and it is only a theory!

So, let us deduce from this information that IN THE ABDUCTION THEORY, being investigated, the parents are not suspects.

The abduction Theory has yet to be verified and evidenced, in the absence of this..IT IS STILL A THEORY, like many others!


AND as a matter of fact DCI Redwood is not in charge of any 'investigation , in Portugal.

Now, what about other theories...has anyone in any Police force said they are not suspects?

For Dave:  to make it clearer...

So, they are NOT suspects in the abduction theory, but we don't know about how the Police feel about their involvement of other theories! 
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?
« Reply #239 on: March 08, 2015, 11:23:50 AM »
I don't know how this post was caught inside someone eles's but THIS is my section, apologies if this confused anyone.


Oh let me make this easier to those who wish to remove their heads from the sand.

The great believers tell us that The McCanns are not suspects...not suspects in what?  what is being investigated?  Well, as we are also told by the great believers SY and PJ are investigating the ABDUCTION THEORY. and it is only a theory!

So, let us deduce from this information that IN THE ABDUCTION THEORY, being investigated, the parents are not suspects.

The abduction Theory has yet to be verified and evidenced, in the absence of this..IT IS STILL A THEORY, like many others!


AND as a matter of fact DCI Redwood is not in charge of any 'investigation , in Portugal.

Now, what about other theories...has anyone in any Police force said they are not suspects?

For Dave:  to make it clearer...

So, they are NOT suspects in the abduction theory, but we don't know about how the Police feel about their involvement of other theories! 

if you want to believe that you are welcome to...but we saw last night how you have basic facts wrong...as far as I am concerned they are not suspects in maddie's disappearance..full stop