Madeleine McCann - why are people so obsessed?

[G-Unit]

Perhaps you should cut the sarcasm - given you are happy to reference that august organ when it suits.

Great answer!  Do you believe what the Mirror reports then? I used a quote, not because I believed it but because I was actually wondering if the McCanns became assistentes? That's the only reference I have seen to it.

[Jean-Pierre]

Great answer!  Do you believe what the Mirror reports then? I used a quote, not because I believed it but because I was actually wondering if the McCanns became assistentes? That's the only reference I have seen to it.

Have you heard the journalists mantra? 

Make it sing
make it dance
make it up

[stephen25000]

Have you heard the journalists mantra? 

Make it sing
make it dance
make it up

Now that truly personifies the abduction scenario.

[faithlilly]

Have you heard the journalists mantra? 

Make it sing
make it dance
make it up

Except when it appears to be a leak from the PJ eh JP ? 

[Miss Taken Identity]

Great answer!  Do you believe what the Mirror reports then? I used a quote, not because I believed it but because I was actually wondering if the McCanns became assistentes? That's the only reference I have seen to it.

Yes Gu, I wondered about that also. I guess they were not.

[DCI]

Great answer!  Do you believe what the Mirror reports then? I used a quote, not because I believed it but because I was actually wondering if the McCanns became assistentes? That's the only reference I have seen to it.

The report by the Mirror is correct. It was applied for in August 2007,  not objected to, as it was their right. Then turned down in September 2007, because they were made Arguido's.  You should read the files.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MCCANNS_ASSISTENTE.htm

[Anna]

Great answer!  Do you believe what the Mirror reports then? I used a quote, not because I believed it but because I was actually wondering if the McCanns became assistentes? That's the only reference I have seen to it.

You might like to read some members discussing the Assistente application on here, maybe not. http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2787.msg95293#msg95293

I think(but not sure) that it may have been refused, due to Madeleine being a ward of court. She was not a ward of court when they were made(briefly) assistente 2007, which was removed due their Arquido status.

[DCI]

You might like to read some members discussing the Assistente application on here, maybe not. http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2787.msg95293#msg95293

I think(but not sure) that it may have been refused, due to Madeleine being a ward of court. She was not a ward of court when they were made(briefly) assistente 2007, which was removed due their Arquido status.

From the Public Ministry

Conclusion 29-08-2007

Within the scope of the current investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, a British citizen, born on the 12-05-2003 from a bedroom in the OC resort where she was staying with her family, made up of her parents Gerald McCann and Kate Healy and her twin siblings.

They are now requesting to be constitutes as Assistentes.

That is how the case is presented to the judge, bearing in mind that the current state of the case, it is repeated that they are the parents and have a legitimate right (article 68 no. 1), they have each paid the taxes and hired a lawyer, I do not have any objection to the constitution of Gerald McCann and Kate Healy as assistentes in the case.

Signed
Magalhaes e Menezes


Full text of previous post is in Vol XProcessos Vol XPages 2624 - 2625

Conclusion 11-09-2007

In compliance with the search warrants determined in folios 2082/2083, two diaries and a note book were apprehended from the McCann family residence, which were in the couple's bedroom wardrobe, in accordance with search warrant folio 2097, which were photocopied and the original handed back according to delivery note 2125.

The photocopies may contain important elements for discovering the truth.Therefore they are admitted to the process.

1. I suggest the apprehension is validated and that the translation of the photocopies is carried out as well as the eventual collection of elements to bring to the process if they are necessary to the investigation.

2. As a result of the terms of folios 2553 and 2565, those making the request on folio 2510, Gerald Patrick McCann and Kate Marie Healy were in the meantime constituted as arguidos because there was an alteration in their position in the process, incompatible with their quality of assistentes, due to which we now oppose their intervention as such, which we now make clear.

Signed

Public Prosecuto

rDr Jose Magalhaes e Menezes

[Anna]

From the Public Ministry

Conclusion 29-08-2007

Within the scope of the current investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, a British citizen, born on the 12-05-2003 from a bedroom in the OC resort where she was staying with her family, made up of her parents Gerald McCann and Kate Healy and her twin siblings.

They are now requesting to be constitutes as Assistentes.

That is how the case is presented to the judge, bearing in mind that the current state of the case, it is repeated that they are the parents and have a legitimate right (article 68 no. 1), they have each paid the taxes and hired a lawyer, I do not have any objection to the constitution of Gerald McCann and Kate Healy as assistentes in the case.

Signed
Magalhaes e Menezes


Full text of previous post is in Vol XProcessos Vol XPages 2624 - 2625

Conclusion 11-09-2007

In compliance with the search warrants determined in folios 2082/2083, two diaries and a note book were apprehended from the McCann family residence, which were in the couple's bedroom wardrobe, in accordance with search warrant folio 2097, which were photocopied and the original handed back according to delivery note 2125.

The photocopies may contain important elements for discovering the truth.Therefore they are admitted to the process.

1. I suggest the apprehension is validated and that the translation of the photocopies is carried out as well as the eventual collection of elements to bring to the process if they are necessary to the investigation.

2. As a result of the terms of folios 2553 and 2565, those making the request on folio 2510, Gerald Patrick McCann and Kate Marie Healy were in the meantime constituted as arguidos because there was an alteration in their position in the process, incompatible with their quality of assistentes, due to which we now oppose their intervention as such, which we now make clear.

Signed

Public Prosecuto

rDr Jose Magalhaes e Menezes

Thanks DCI. So do you think the application made in 2013 for assistente status, was accepted again?

 I guess it would make sense if it was, as OG keep them updated, despite the secrecy laws, which means that they are included in the investigations. Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

[G-Unit]

Thanks DCI. So do you think the application made in 2013 for assistente status, was accepted again?

 I guess it would make sense if it was, as OG keep them updated, despite the secrecy laws, which means that they are included in the investigations. Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

May I ask who said OG are keeping the McCanns updated? i seem to have missed where that fact is confirmed. Thanks in anticipation.

[Anna]

May I ask who said OG are keeping the McCanns updated? i seem to have missed where that fact is confirmed. Thanks in anticipation.

“We are in regular contact with [her parents] Kate and Gerry McCann and they are kept fully updated on the progress of our work. We also continue to work closely with the Portuguese police and are actively considering our next steps.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/home-office-to-fund-new-met-operation-into-madeleine-mccann-disappearance-8660084.html

[Brietta]

“We are in regular contact with [her parents] Kate and Gerry McCann and they are kept fully updated on the progress of our work. We also continue to work closely with the Portuguese police and are actively considering our next steps.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/home-office-to-fund-new-met-operation-into-madeleine-mccann-disappearance-8660084.html

The Drs McCann have been kept in the loop by both task forces.

As civilians I am quite sure there will be aspects of the case to which they will not be privy; but there is no doubt they are being kept updated with developments and I think that tells us all we need to know about what their status is as far as the PJ and SY are concerned.


**snip

Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood, who is leading the Scotland Yard team, Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley, and Madeleine's parents met officers in Lisbon last week to be briefed on the Portuguese case.

The new Portuguese lines of inquiry are separate to those being chased by the Met.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/oct/24/missing-madeleine-mccann-investigation-reopened-portuguese-police

[G-Unit]

The Drs McCann have been kept in the loop by both task forces.

As civilians I am quite sure there will be aspects of the case to which they will not be privy; but there is no doubt they are being kept updated with developments and I think that tells us all we need to know about what their status is as far as the PJ and SY are concerned.


**snip

Detective Chief Inspector Redwood, who is leading the Scotland Yard team, Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley, and Madeleine's parents met officers in Lisbon last week to be briefed on the Portuguese case.

The new Portuguese lines of inquiry are separate to those being chased by the Met.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/oct/24/missing-madeleine-mccann-investigation-reopened-portuguese-police

The Guardian makes it sound as if the PJ briefed both the Met and the McCanns. but they didn't. SY may have told the McCanns what was said later, but there is nothing I can find to say the PJ are updating the McCanns on their investigation;

At the request of The Policia Judiciara, AC Mark Rowley and DCI Andy Redwood attended a meeting with senior officers on 17 October, in Lisbon, to discuss this significant development, and for a comprehensive briefing on the new lines of enquiry which, at this point, are separate to the lines of enquiry being followed by the MPS. At the conclusion of that meeting, the group were joined by Kate and Gerry McCann who were briefed on the plans to apply to reopen the investigation.
http://content.met.police.uk/News/Portuguese-authorities-reopen-investigation-into-Madeleine-McCann/1400020769305/1257246745756

[Brietta]

The Guardian makes it sound as if the PJ briefed both the Met and the McCanns. but they didn't. SY may have told the McCanns what was said later, but there is nothing I can find to say the PJ are updating the McCanns on their investigation;

At the request of The Policia Judiciara, AC Mark Rowley and DCI Andy Redwood attended a meeting with senior officers on 17 October, in Lisbon, to discuss this significant development, and for a comprehensive briefing on the new lines of enquiry which, at this point, are separate to the lines of enquiry being followed by the MPS. At the conclusion of that meeting, the group were joined by Kate and Gerry McCann who were briefed on the plans to apply to reopen the investigation.
http://content.met.police.uk/News/Portuguese-authorities-reopen-investigation-into-Madeleine-McCann/1400020769305/1257246745756

The re-opened British investigation into Madeleine McCann's case was already in progress.

The Portuguese investigation was not at that stage.

Further investigation by the Porto PJ team had found justification to follow suit and a meeting was held for discussion with their British counterparts prior to their re-opening of Madeleine's case in Portugal.

After their joint discussion on operational matters - to which no civilians should or would be privy - Dr Kate and Dr Gerry McCann were invited into that joint PJ/SY meeting to be informed of proceedings.

I think the clue is in the wording - "the group were joined".

 

[G-Unit]

The re-opened British investigation into Madeleine McCann's case was already in progress.

The Portuguese investigation was not at that stage.

Further investigation by the Porto PJ team had found justification to follow suit and a meeting was held for discussion with their British counterparts prior to their re-opening of Madeleine's case in Portugal.

After their joint discussion on operational matters - to which no civilians should or would be privy - Dr Kate and Dr Gerry McCann were invited into that joint PJ/SY meeting to be informed of proceedings.

I think the clue is in the wording - "the group were joined".

the group were joined by Kate and Gerry McCann who were briefed on the plans to apply to reopen the investigation.