Author Topic: Have most people given up on finding Madeleine alive?  (Read 46975 times)

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Offline jassi

Re: Have most people given up on finding Madeleine alive?
« Reply #105 on: March 13, 2015, 02:17:17 PM »
There doesn't seem to be anything to prove it was a burglary gone wrong either.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Have most people given up on finding Madeleine alive?
« Reply #106 on: March 13, 2015, 02:21:23 PM »
There doesn't seem to be anything to prove it was a burglary gone wrong either.

I feel if SY had found absolutely nothing they would not be talking so positively about the investigation continuing...we just do not know

Offline Brietta

Re: Have most people given up on finding Madeleine alive?
« Reply #107 on: March 13, 2015, 02:36:08 PM »
I feel if SY had found absolutely nothing they would not be talking so positively about the investigation continuing...we just do not know

I think that is probably just as it should be until things are decided one way or t'other.

Who does it really matter to?  Madeleine and her immediate family are the important ones here ... not a nondescript bunch of people chattering on the internet.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Anna

Re: Have most people given up on finding Madeleine alive?
« Reply #108 on: March 13, 2015, 02:53:39 PM »
I think that is probably just as it should be until things are decided one way or t'other.

Who does it really matter to?  Madeleine and her immediate family are the important ones here ... not a nondescript bunch of people chattering on the internet.

When the Secrecy is lifted, we will hopefully know what has been unearthed if anything, until then, it is all just a guessing game. 
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

stephen25000

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Re: Have most people given up on finding Madeleine alive?
« Reply #109 on: March 13, 2015, 02:55:32 PM »
Nobody can say Madeleine is definitely dead, or definitely alive.  In the absence of absolute proof there remains a possibility, however slim.  You may not like it but that is a fact. 

To be honest Stephen, you are showing a rather creepy determination to convince everyone that Madeleine is dead.  You have become the forum equivalent of the drunk pub bore, droning on and on about their pet obsession.

It would be funny, if the subject were not so tragic.

Pub bore ?

Subjective opinion.

What I find distasteful is the repeated 'abduction' scenario, for which there exists no proof whatsoever, and is churned out day by day, as if it the only 'reason' for Madeleine's disappearance, when it is certainly not the case.

As to wanting Madeleine dead, that is nasty, as I have said no such thing.

I just believe there is no chance that will happen.


Unlike you and your fellow supporters, I don't believe in fantasies, just reality.

One day you might understand that point, but I somehow doubt that will occur, as mccann supporters have to perpetuate the idea of abduction, and that she will miraculously return.

« Last Edit: March 13, 2015, 03:33:37 PM by Eleanor »

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Have most people given up on finding Madeleine alive?
« Reply #110 on: March 13, 2015, 03:20:57 PM »
I think that is probably just as it should be until things are decided one way or t'other.

Who does it really matter to?  Madeleine and her immediate family are the important ones here ... not a nondescript bunch of people chattering on the internet.

does that translate into "disparate and largely dysfunctional internet punters" ?  8(>((
I have posted to that effect several times  ?>)()<
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Have most people given up on finding Madeleine alive?
« Reply #111 on: March 13, 2015, 03:29:54 PM »
Pub bore ?

Subjective opinion.

What I find distasteful is the repeated 'abduction' scenario, for which there exists no proof whatsoever, and is churned out day by day, as if it the only 'reason' for Madeleine's disappearance, when it is certainly not the case.

As to wanting Madeleine dead, that is nasty, as I have said no such thing.

I just believe there is no chance that will happen.


Unlike you and your fellow supporters, I don't believe in fantasies, just reality.

One day you might understand that point, but I somehow doubt that will occur, as mccann supporters have to perpetuate the idea of abduction, and that she will miraculously return.


Do you know what happened to Madeleine? 

Of course not.  the perpetrator of the crime will know, and maybe accomplices, but until the riddle is solved we cannot and should not rule anything out, including the possibility that she is alive.

It is possible she was abducted for some reason.

It is possible that she wandered

It is possible her parents were involved.

It is possible that there is something that nobody has yet thought of.

That is my opinion.  However, it seems, from reading endless posts by you, that you cannot accept that others have a perfectly valid and rational stance that Madeleine may, possibly, be still alive.

And you, I do think your obsession that Madeleine is dead, and your constant drone about it, is just plain nasty.

I said earlier on that we will have to agree to differ - sadly you seem to be unable to accept that without the usual insults.   
« Last Edit: March 13, 2015, 03:35:30 PM by Eleanor »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Have most people given up on finding Madeleine alive?
« Reply #112 on: March 13, 2015, 03:33:17 PM »
Pub bore ?

Subjective opinion.

What I find distasteful is the repeated 'abduction' scenario, for which there exists no proof whatsoever, and is churned out day by day, as if it the only 'reason' for Madeleine's disappearance, when it is certainly not the case.

As to wanting Madeleine dead, that is nasty, as I have said no such thing.

I just believe there is no chance that will happen.


Unlike you and your fellow supporters, I don't believe in fantasies, just reality.

One day you might understand that point, but I somehow doubt that will occur, as mccann supporters have to perpetuate the idea of abduction, and that she will miraculously return.

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I take it you are referring to amaral and his drink driving...cite...his wife
« Last Edit: March 13, 2015, 03:37:23 PM by Eleanor »

stephen25000

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Re: Have most people given up on finding Madeleine alive?
« Reply #113 on: March 13, 2015, 03:37:04 PM »
Do you know what happened to Madeleine? 

Of course not.  the perpetrator of the crime will know, and maybe accomplices, but until the riddle is solved we cannot and should not rule anything out, including the possibility that she is alive.

It is possible she was abducted for some reason.

It is possible that she wandered

It is possible her parents were involved.

It is possible that there is something that nobody has yet thought of.

That is my opinion.  However, it seems, from reading endless posts by you, that you cannot accept that others have a perfectly valid and rational stance that Madeleine may, possibly, be still alive.

And you, I do think your obsession that Madeleine is dead, and your constant drone about it, is just plain nasty.

I said earlier on that we will have to agree to differ - sadly you seem to be unable to accept that without the usual insults.   


Same old rubbish.

i.e. You feel free to try and insult me of course.

However, that is no surprise.

Simply don't bother replying to my posts.

Pray tell, give me one rational and logical premise, which  after 8 years of absolutely nothing, would suggest that Madeleine is still alive.

I'm all ears.

 8)--))

« Last Edit: March 13, 2015, 03:39:19 PM by Eleanor »

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Have most people given up on finding Madeleine alive?
« Reply #114 on: March 13, 2015, 03:50:58 PM »
Same old rubbish.

i.e. You feel free to try and insult me of course.

However, that is no surprise.

Simply don't bother replying to my posts.

Pray tell, give me one rational and logical premise, which  after 8 years of absolutely nothing, would suggest that Madeleine is still alive.

I'm all ears.

 8)--))

Given your insistence that Madeleine is definitely dead, you are a sensitive little flower Stephen.

One rational and logical premise that Madeleine may still be alive? A body has not been found.  And in the absence of a body there is a possibility (however remote) that she is still alive.

stephen25000

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Re: Have most people given up on finding Madeleine alive?
« Reply #115 on: March 13, 2015, 04:13:01 PM »
Given your insistence that Madeleine is definitely dead, you are a sensitive little flower Stephen.

One rational and logical premise that Madeleine may still be alive? A body has not been found.  And in the absence of a body there is a possibility (however remote) that she is still alive.

Flower no, stroppy yes.

She may also be on Mars.

As much evidence for that as for her being still alive. 8)-)))

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Have most people given up on finding Madeleine alive?
« Reply #116 on: March 13, 2015, 04:15:42 PM »
Flower no, stroppy yes.

She may also be on Mars.

As much evidence for that as for her being still alive. 8)-)))

you are becoming a serious bore

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Have most people given up on finding Madeleine alive?
« Reply #117 on: March 13, 2015, 04:30:25 PM »
Flower no, stroppy yes.

She may also be on Mars.

As much evidence for that as for her being still alive. 8)-)))

Why stroppy?  Have you been drinking, Stephen?

You surely don't think your opinion somehow counts for anything in this matter, do you?  The same applies to all posters here.

And juvenile comments about Mars aside - that is the point- there is no evidence of anything.  And therefore there remains a possibility that Madeleine is alive.  A very slim chance but still a chance.

I really cannot understand why the possibility that Madeleine may just possibly be still alive upsets you so much.  You seem to be taking this very personally. 

stephen25000

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Re: Have most people given up on finding Madeleine alive?
« Reply #118 on: March 13, 2015, 04:46:59 PM »
you are becoming a serious bore

Tough.

 8)--))

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Have most people given up on finding Madeleine alive?
« Reply #119 on: March 13, 2015, 05:00:27 PM »
Tough.

 8)--))

it doesn't bother me.....it's quite satisfying that as a sceptic you have no serious arguments