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Offline Anna

BELGRADE – Three arrested kidnappers told the police that the motive for kidnapping of the two-year-old girl Masa was supposedly obtain custody over an almost identical child that lives in France, and whose mother is one of the kidnappers, Serbian media reported.

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“Three kidnappers who were arrested for kidnapping Masa are members of the same family. Misel Sebastian and his wife Sandrin Goren went to Serbia together with their daughter Kristel Etje to kidnap the girl, who incredibly looks like Kristel’s child,” media reports.

Kidnappers’ intention, as they claim, was to kidnap the girl who looks like the daughter Kristel (26) really does have in France. Masa was supposed to serve them in a lawsuit Kristel filed against her husband, with the goal to prove that the daughter they have is not his,” the police said.

Kidnappers planned to take Masa out of Serbia using the passport of Kristel’s real daughter. Then they planned to take Masa to the court, as Kristela’s daughter, and to have DNA taken from her to be tested to prove that she is not the daughter of Kristel’s husband. In that way, Kristela would have her child only to herself, and they counted that the fraud could have worked because Kristel’s husband has seen his daughter only once.

“Kidnappers claim that they planned to return Masa to Serbia after the fraud is over,” said the police.

The Prosecutor’s Office says that they are still waiting for information from their counterparts in France.

http://inserbia.info/today/2015/03/belgrade-kidnappers-took-the-girl-to-deceive-the-court-and-win-custody/

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Offline misty


BELGRADE – Three arrested kidnappers told the police that the motive for kidnapping of the two-year-old girl Masa was supposedly obtain custody over an almost identical child that lives in France, and whose mother is one of the kidnappers, Serbian media reported.

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“Three kidnappers who were arrested for kidnapping Masa are members of the same family. Misel Sebastian and his wife Sandrin Goren went to Serbia together with their daughter Kristel Etje to kidnap the girl, who incredibly looks like Kristel’s child,” media reports.

Kidnappers’ intention, as they claim, was to kidnap the girl who looks like the daughter Kristel (26) really does have in France. Masa was supposed to serve them in a lawsuit Kristel filed against her husband, with the goal to prove that the daughter they have is not his,” the police said.

Kidnappers planned to take Masa out of Serbia using the passport of Kristel’s real daughter. Then they planned to take Masa to the court, as Kristela’s daughter, and to have DNA taken from her to be tested to prove that she is not the daughter of Kristel’s husband. In that way, Kristela would have her child only to herself, and they counted that the fraud could have worked because Kristel’s husband has seen his daughter only once.

“Kidnappers claim that they planned to return Masa to Serbia after the fraud is over,” said the police.

The Prosecutor’s Office says that they are still waiting for information from their counterparts in France.

http://inserbia.info/today/2015/03/belgrade-kidnappers-took-the-girl-to-deceive-the-court-and-win-custody/

There is an obvious (DNA) flaw in that cunning & convoluted plan.

Offline Anna

Something doesn't add up.
               I suspected there may have been a child that they tried to find a copy too, but only for passport reasons and being able to show the child (real one in passport) if investigated.
It is a Mother, Father and daughter team, so why speaking in different languages? I don't think we have heard the end of it yet.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline Brietta

There is an obvious (DNA) flaw in that cunning & convoluted plan.

Well spotted Misty.


"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta


BELGRADE – Three arrested kidnappers told the police that the motive for kidnapping of the two-year-old girl Masa was supposedly obtain custody over an almost identical child that lives in France, and whose mother is one of the kidnappers, Serbian media reported.

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“Three kidnappers who were arrested for kidnapping Masa are members of the same family. Misel Sebastian and his wife Sandrin Goren went to Serbia together with their daughter Kristel Etje to kidnap the girl, who incredibly looks like Kristel’s child,” media reports.

Kidnappers’ intention, as they claim, was to kidnap the girl who looks like the daughter Kristel (26) really does have in France. Masa was supposed to serve them in a lawsuit Kristel filed against her husband, with the goal to prove that the daughter they have is not his,” the police said.

Kidnappers planned to take Masa out of Serbia using the passport of Kristel’s real daughter. Then they planned to take Masa to the court, as Kristela’s daughter, and to have DNA taken from her to be tested to prove that she is not the daughter of Kristel’s husband. In that way, Kristela would have her child only to herself, and they counted that the fraud could have worked because Kristel’s husband has seen his daughter only once.

“Kidnappers claim that they planned to return Masa to Serbia after the fraud is over,” said the police.

The Prosecutor’s Office says that they are still waiting for information from their counterparts in France.

http://inserbia.info/today/2015/03/belgrade-kidnappers-took-the-girl-to-deceive-the-court-and-win-custody/


It certainly appears to be stranger abduction carried out in broad daylight and prevented only by the swift response of the police.

At every stage of the kidnap these horrible people put the little girl at serious risk.  It will be interesting to see what information comes out of France about them.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor


My goodness, that's a convoluted plot.  Not sure if I believe this.  How daft did they think that The Courts are?

Offline Carana

Something doesn't add up.
               I suspected there may have been a child that they tried to find a copy too, but only for passport reasons and being able to show the child (real one in passport) if investigated.
It is a Mother, Father and daughter team, so why speaking in different languages? I don't think we have heard the end of it yet.

It's making no sense to me whatsoever, Anna. Hopefully there will be some kind of official information from the police or the public prosecutor: breaking news is notoriously unreliable.

Offline John

The lengths some people will go to in paternity suits can never be underestimated.  It's a pity they didn't have the same respect for the kidnapped child though.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Carana

The lengths some people will go to in paternity suits can never be underestimated.  It's a pity they didn't have the same respect for the kidnapped child though.

At the moment, little seems to be clear aside from one man and two women were apparently arrested following a car chase ending near a border and the rescue of a young child.
« Last Edit: March 15, 2015, 03:48:40 PM by Carana »

Offline Anna

It's making no sense to me whatsoever, Anna. Hopefully there will be some kind of official information from the police or the public prosecutor: breaking news is notoriously unreliable.

I agree Carana.
 I believe that story said that the daughters father had only seen her once, so it doesn't sound as if he wants her, that much.
Anyone who has a child or loves children, could not have done such a thing to a mother and child, surely?

I think it is a team thing (possibly father included) but, I hope it is soon discovered what reason lies behind it.
 I would not want to hear that another mother had go through what that little girls Mum did 8(8-))

The little girl is safe and right now that is all that matters.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline Anna

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2015, 03:50:06 PM »
The lengths some people will go to in paternity suits can never be underestimated.  It's a pity they didn't have the same respect for the kidnapped child though.

I think the child is often used as a punishment stick, in these severe cases. Terribly unkind, but that's life nowadays.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato


Offline VIXTE

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2015, 01:14:57 AM »
There is an obvious (DNA) flaw in that cunning & convoluted plan.

The DNA test would prove she is not her mother either.

Like in the French case reported earlier this month.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2950424/My-baby-swapped-birth-bringing-stranger.html

Offline Eleanor

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2015, 09:34:09 AM »
The DNA test would prove she is not her mother either.

Like in the French case reported earlier this month.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2950424/My-baby-swapped-birth-bringing-stranger.html

Exactly.  So possibly a bit more to this.

Offline Carana

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2015, 09:52:54 AM »
Interview with the Serbian Interior Minister.

Hoping Vixte can translate what he's saying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3O2SEbVYTA#t=16
« Last Edit: March 16, 2015, 10:40:17 AM by Carana »