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Offline VIXTE

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #90 on: March 22, 2015, 05:25:06 PM »
Here is the new article. They have an interview with the French baby's father but I am not sure what would be his name as in Serbia they write names the way they pronounce them..

The baby's father has confirmed his request for a DNA analysis but  he is also saying he has no clue where the child is.

http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/naslovna/hronika/aktuelno.291.html:539568-Bivsi-suprug-kidnaperke-Ne-cudi-me-sto-su-oteli-Masu

Offline Brietta

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #91 on: March 22, 2015, 07:05:08 PM »
Here is the new article. They have an interview with the French baby's father but I am not sure what would be his name as in Serbia they write names the way they pronounce them..

The baby's father has confirmed his request for a DNA analysis but  he is also saying he has no clue where the child is.

http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/naslovna/hronika/aktuelno.291.html:539568-Bivsi-suprug-kidnaperke-Ne-cudi-me-sto-su-oteli-Masu

I wonder if they dropped the little one off with relatives in Romania? That may have been the purpose of their visit.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Carana

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #92 on: March 23, 2015, 09:05:54 AM »
In the comments section, a girl said she knew the father (Axel) who was in a panic trying to find out where his daughter (Ambre) was. The last comment she made was that she'd been found and was safe... but it's not clear which child she was talking about, I presume she meant little Ambre.

http://www.midilibre.fr/2015/03/15/des-gardois-a-l-origine-du-rapt-d-une-fillette-en-serbie,1136072.php

The French child's mother is known as Emmeline and her mother's name is Alexia (48). Emmeline's father (50) is a lorry driver and his wife works for a kindergarten. The village is Vers-Pont-du-Gard. They could often be heard arguing and had a few problems with their neighbours, but seemingly nothing out of the ordinary.

Emmeline and Axel had attempted a reconciliation, but it didn't work out (obviously).

http://www.objectifgard.com/2015/03/18/vers-pont-du-gard-une-famille-accusee-dun-rapt-en-serbie/


Offline Brietta

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #93 on: March 23, 2015, 09:23:23 AM »
In the comments section, a girl said she knew the father (Axel) who was in a panic trying to find out where his daughter (Ambre) was. The last comment she made was that she'd been found and was safe... but it's not clear which child she was talking about, I presume she meant little Ambre.

http://www.midilibre.fr/2015/03/15/des-gardois-a-l-origine-du-rapt-d-une-fillette-en-serbie,1136072.php

The French child's mother is known as Emmeline and her mother's name is Alexia (48). Emmeline's father (50) is a lorry driver and his wife works for a kindergarten. The village is Vers-Pont-du-Gard. They could often be heard arguing and had a few problems with their neighbours, but seemingly nothing out of the ordinary.

Emmeline and Axel had attempted a reconciliation, but it didn't work out (obviously).

http://www.objectifgard.com/2015/03/18/vers-pont-du-gard-une-famille-accusee-dun-rapt-en-serbie/

From reading that it seems there may be an element of truth in their 'cover' story.

Had they even thought far enough forward to have a plan for the Serbian child once the custody issue was settled?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Carana

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #94 on: March 23, 2015, 09:35:54 AM »
From reading that it seems there may be an element of truth in their 'cover' story.

Had they even thought far enough forward to have a plan for the Serbian child once the custody issue was settled?

One neighbour said she wasn't surprised they'd bungled it - they're not the brightest people in the world in her view. So... I'm wondering whether they actually believed that their crackpot plan could have worked.

Offline Brietta

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #95 on: March 23, 2015, 10:07:40 AM »
One neighbour said she wasn't surprised they'd bungled it - they're not the brightest people in the world in her view. So... I'm wondering whether they actually believed that their crackpot plan could have worked.

I think it illustrates that there are many complex issues going on in the background of a crime such as this ... who in their wildest dreams would have come up with such a scenario?

They treated the little Serbian girl as a commodity and I shudder as to what their next step might have been when she had served her purpose.  Words fail me!
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Carana

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #96 on: March 23, 2015, 01:46:50 PM »
I haven't found any official confirmation that the little French girl really is safe, nor where she is...

Offline Brietta

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #97 on: March 23, 2015, 02:46:18 PM »
I haven't found any official confirmation that the little French girl really is safe, nor where she is...

Here's hoping she will be found safe and well, Carana.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline misty

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #98 on: April 08, 2015, 11:17:07 PM »
Not sure if this is connected to the subject of this thread or not.

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Exchange baby by BMW and 8000 euros Trafficking network judged in France.
 Ten people accused of trafficking of babies began yesterday on trial in Marseille, France. Among the defendants are a couple - Carmen and Mike Gorgan - accused of having bought the baby a Romanian woman in exchange for 8000 euros and a BMW. Companion and brother of the woman are accused of complicity.







Offline Brietta

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #100 on: April 08, 2015, 11:40:20 PM »
Not sure if this is connected to the subject of this thread or not.

http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=pt&u=http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dcorreia%2Bda%2Bmanha%26biw%3D1366%26bih%3D669


Exchange baby by BMW and 8000 euros Trafficking network judged in France.
 Ten people accused of trafficking of babies began yesterday on trial in Marseille, France. Among the defendants are a couple - Carmen and Mike Gorgan - accused of having bought the baby a Romanian woman in exchange for 8000 euros and a BMW. Companion and brother of the woman are accused of complicity.

There is a French connection ... as there was with the abduction in Serbia.

There is a Romanian connection ... the abductors of the Serbian child had been in Romania ... why we don't know.

Very disturbing that ten people have gone on trial accused of trafficking babies ... yet people pretend such a thing just doesn't happen ... and as long as society is encouraged in denial, human trafficking will continue undisturbed.

 ... and isn't a human life cheap at 8000 euros and a BMW.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline faithlilly

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #101 on: April 08, 2015, 11:44:48 PM »
There is a French connection ... as there was with the abduction in Serbia.

There is a Romanian connection ... the abductors of the Serbian child had been in Romania ... why we don't know.

Very disturbing that ten people have gone on trial accused of trafficking babies ... yet people pretend such a thing just doesn't happen ... and as long as society is encouraged in denial, human trafficking will continue undisturbed.

 ... and isn't a human life cheap at 8000 euros and a BMW.

If trafficking babies was the aim why wasn't Amelie or Sean taken instead ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Anna

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #102 on: April 10, 2015, 10:43:59 PM »
  Kidnappers engaged in human trafficking in France


Today
Society
 
 Published: Mar 22, 2015 at 9:23 am
Modified: Mar 22, 2015 at 9:23 am
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BELGRADE – Three kidnappers who had taken Masa Prenkovic (2) were part of a criminal clan engaged in human trafficking in France, “Blic” reported.

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Kristel Emelin Eje (26), her mother Alexia Sandrin Goren Bransu (50) and stepfather Sebastian Bransu (46) came to Serbia on March 12 to kidnap a child who will later be given to an organized group, a source close to the investigation told the daily.

“The investigation progresses thanks to the cooperation of the French and Serbian police and international help. The kidnappers wanted to sell the child and that was arranged with a criminal clan dealing with human trafficking. It has not yet been determined whether they received a task to kidnap the child which they were only supposed to carry out, or they arranged to kidnap the child, and later sell it to the group. In both cases, Serbian and French police have determined that their alibi with DNA analysis was a prepared lie,” said the source.

As suspected, the kidnappers came to Serbia with prepared alibi and documents for the child they planned to abduct.

“In Romania, where they resided before Serbia, they could not carry out the kidnapping because the children were not similar to a child whose documents they had. That they randomly chose a child they will abduct witness videos recorded by security cameras in Belgrade, showing them roaming Belgrade and stopping at many places. As soon as they saw a child that resembles the one whose photo was in the passport they had, they carried out the kidnapping,” said the source for “Blic”.

Minister of Police, Nebojsa Stefanovic, confirmed at a press conference that the kidnapping of the girl was part of an organized human trafficking.

http://inserbia.info/today/2015/03/kidnappers-engaged-in-human-trafficking-in-france/





“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline misty

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #103 on: April 11, 2015, 12:36:25 AM »
  Kidnappers engaged in human trafficking in France


Today
Society
 
 Published: Mar 22, 2015 at 9:23 am
Modified: Mar 22, 2015 at 9:23 am
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BELGRADE – Three kidnappers who had taken Masa Prenkovic (2) were part of a criminal clan engaged in human trafficking in France, “Blic” reported.

otmicar-branko-sebastijan

Kristel Emelin Eje (26), her mother Alexia Sandrin Goren Bransu (50) and stepfather Sebastian Bransu (46) came to Serbia on March 12 to kidnap a child who will later be given to an organized group, a source close to the investigation told the daily.

“The investigation progresses thanks to the cooperation of the French and Serbian police and international help. The kidnappers wanted to sell the child and that was arranged with a criminal clan dealing with human trafficking. It has not yet been determined whether they received a task to kidnap the child which they were only supposed to carry out, or they arranged to kidnap the child, and later sell it to the group. In both cases, Serbian and French police have determined that their alibi with DNA analysis was a prepared lie,” said the source.

As suspected, the kidnappers came to Serbia with prepared alibi and documents for the child they planned to abduct.

“In Romania, where they resided before Serbia, they could not carry out the kidnapping because the children were not similar to a child whose documents they had. That they randomly chose a child they will abduct witness videos recorded by security cameras in Belgrade, showing them roaming Belgrade and stopping at many places. As soon as they saw a child that resembles the one whose photo was in the passport they had, they carried out the kidnapping,” said the source for “Blic”.

Minister of Police, Nebojsa Stefanovic, confirmed at a press conference that the kidnapping of the girl was part of an organized human trafficking.

http://inserbia.info/today/2015/03/kidnappers-engaged-in-human-trafficking-in-france/

It's all so sad and that little girl was very very fortunate her kidnappers weren't exactly the most proficient.
If that's the MO - match the child to the documents - perhaps that provides the explanation as to why Madeleine was selected, rather than her siblings or any of the other unattended children - in an abduction scenario.

Offline Anna

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #104 on: April 11, 2015, 01:01:15 AM »
It's all so sad and that little girl was very very fortunate her kidnappers weren't exactly the most proficient.
If that's the MO - match the child to the documents - perhaps that provides the explanation as to why Madeleine was selected, rather than her siblings or any of the other unattended children - in an abduction scenario.

Matching a child to a passport is what I have thought many times too, in the Maddie case, Misty.
When questioned the abductor could provide proof of a child, who resembled the child missing...alibi sorted!

Who interviewed or sighted had a child who looked like Maddie?

Back to this case of the French kidnappers....The father of the child on the passport, must also have been in on this plot with the DNA rubbish.
I am so glad that they have been caught, before any more little ones were abducted by them.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato