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Offline Carana

« Last Edit: April 19, 2015, 09:41:05 AM by Carana »

Offline Carana

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #121 on: April 19, 2015, 12:03:31 PM »
I hope your little granddaughter has as happy a birthday as possible in the circumstances.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #122 on: April 19, 2015, 12:07:49 PM »

Thanks for that information, Carana.  It might help.

And yes, a happy birthday to that little girl.

Offline Anna

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #123 on: April 19, 2015, 02:43:09 PM »
no anna, I'm not the father of the young  french baby, i'm his grand-father.The girl aged 26 years is my daughter and her mother is my ex_ wife. The two are now in prison in serbia.I don't know where, near belgrade, it seems.
The french little baby is her birthday today, she is today 2 .A poor birthday,whithout a mother and family.
And I choose this day for her to speak about.I can't speak about the problem in serbia because I was in france but I'm the only person who knows the 2 kidnappers. So, I don't know where is the french little girl I know only she is in a family ( famille d'accueil en francais) in south of france. In France, also there are a girl 22 years old, a girl 13 years old
 (they are my daughters also) and a boy 13 years old ( son of the male kidnapper) and a baby 2 years old (today).
These children need also their parents in france, even if is to see in prison but in france.
on the picture you can see my daughter 26 years old ( you can recognize fair hairs on the pictures on the arrest) and the baby with her it's the real frebch baby 2 years old (yesterday was her birthday)
As you can see that I say is true

Thank you Michele, I hope that the information given by Carana is of some assistance to you.

Your Grandchild's birthday was the day after the Serbian child's birthday, so only a day younger.

I doubt if you saw her on her birthday, which is rather sad, but I hope she was given a good birthday by the people she is with. Her colouring and build is much like the Serbian child.

We would be pleased to hear of anything that may be happening, or led up to this dreadful situation to help us understand, so please keep in touch with us and we will help where we can.



Merci Michele, je espère que l'information donnée par Carana est d'une certaine utilité pour vous.

L'anniversaire de votre petit-enfant était le lendemain de l'anniversaire de l'enfant serbe, donc seulement un jour plus jeune.

Je doute que vous l'avez vue pour son anniversaire, ce qui est plutôt triste, mais je espère qu'elle a été donné un bon anniversaire par les gens qu'elle est avec. Sa coloration et la construction est un peu comme l'enfant serbe.

Nous serions heureux d'entendre parler de tout ce qui peut se passer, ou conduit à cette situation terrible pour nous aider à comprendre, alors se il vous plaît de rester en contact avec nous et nous vous aiderons où nous le pouvons.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline sadie

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #124 on: April 19, 2015, 03:37:53 PM »
Thank you Michele, I hope that the information given by Carana is of some assistance to you.

Your Grandchild's birthday was the day after the Serbian child's birthday, so only a day younger.

I doubt if you saw her on her birthday, which is rather sad, but I hope she was given a good birthday by the people she is with. Her colouring and build is much like the Serbian child.

We would be pleased to hear of anything that may be happening, or led up to this dreadful situation to help us understand, so please keep in touch with us and we will help where we can.



Merci Michele, je espère que l'information donnée par Carana est d'une certaine utilité pour vous.

L'anniversaire de votre petit-enfant était le lendemain de l'anniversaire de l'enfant serbe, donc seulement un jour plus jeune.

Je doute que vous l'avez vue pour son anniversaire, ce qui est plutôt triste, mais je espère qu'elle a été donné un bon anniversaire par les gens qu'elle est avec. Sa coloration et la construction est un peu comme l'enfant serbe.

Nous serions heureux d'entendre parler de tout ce qui peut se passer, ou conduit à cette situation terrible pour nous aider à comprendre, alors se il vous plaît de rester en contact avec nous et nous vous aiderons où nous le pouvons.

Some lovely kind responses here, helpful too... and in French !

Well done guys.



I would like to add my good wishes and hope for a speedy and good resolution.

Thinking of you

sadie x

Offline MICHEL

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #125 on: April 19, 2015, 04:24:46 PM »
For your information,  my french litlle grand-daughter is born the april 18 th 2013, she was 2 years old yestreday.
For the little serbian girl abducted I don't know her real date of birthday.

Offline Anna

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #126 on: April 19, 2015, 04:29:17 PM »
For your information,  my french litlle grand-daughter is born the april 18 th 2013, she was 2 years old yestreday.
For the little serbian girl abducted I don't know her real date of birthday.

Just coincidence, Michel,

- Doctors say that Masha will not remember this.  April 17, her second birthday - adds Damir.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline Anna

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #127 on: April 19, 2015, 05:44:46 PM »
The latest news article on the kidnappers:-



French natives, who kidnapped two year old Masha in Belgrade’s settlement Braca Jerkovic on March 13th, did not find the girl through social media networks, as was originally claimed, but the little girl was randomly tipped as they wandered Belgrade.
Police have completely reconstructed the movements of the French, from the moment they entered Serbia from Romania. They were first in Pancevo, visiting a mall, but because they did not have success with their original intent, they moved to Belgrade. Wandering the streets of Belgrade, they ended up in Braca Jerkovic, where the kidnapping took place.
Although they initially claimed that they would not hurt Masha, and that they would return her to Serbia, new insight from the French Police predict a terrifying epilogue.

08:32 14. April 2015.



Little Masha's kidnappers wanted to remove her heart, liver and kidney: the creepy new details about the kidnapping of the century


The French police have come to know that the kidnappers from France were linked to an organized crime group involved in organ trade

Primtskrin: N1, MUP Srbije
French investigative forces conducting a parallel investigation of three of their national residents who kidnapped little Masha in Serbia, have come to the information that Masha was supposed to be delivered to retailers of human organs.
read more

http://www.telegraf.rs/english/1523293-little-mashas-kidnappers-wanted-to-remove-her-heart-liver-and-kidney-the-creepy-new-details-about-the-kidnapping-of-the-century
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline Anna

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #128 on: April 19, 2015, 06:11:57 PM »
How much truth and how much sensationalism is in these articles is unknown, as we know very little about the country they come from, but I will continue to post update as usual.

If Michel is indeed a relative of kristel, is must be a great worry for him, no matter what the real story entails.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline Carana

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #129 on: April 19, 2015, 07:02:22 PM »
Hmmm. I suspect that it's tabloid invention à la CdaM.

Offline Anna

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #130 on: April 19, 2015, 07:09:30 PM »
Hmmm. I suspect that it's tabloid invention à la CdaM.

Probably correct there, Carana, but I am just passing on the news.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline Carana

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #131 on: April 19, 2015, 07:45:20 PM »
I can't find anything in the non-Serbian press about this organ trafficking allegation.

The latest I can find in the French press is this:

http://videos.tf1.fr/infos/2015/le-combat-d-axel-pour-retrouver-sa-fille-ce-qui-se-cache-derriere-8582885.html

Offline Anna

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #132 on: April 19, 2015, 08:56:11 PM »
I can't find anything in the non-Serbian press about this organ trafficking allegation.

The latest I can find in the French press is this:

http://videos.tf1.fr/infos/2015/le-combat-d-axel-pour-retrouver-sa-fille-ce-qui-se-cache-derriere-8582885.html

There does not seem to be much at all on the French news, but they are busy with the Zoe case who was murdered by a foreigner. A foreign criminal always seems to get more space.

I suspect the Body part news from Serbia is possibly the result of an overactive imagination trying to work out the possibilities, that have not been ruled out…………but who knows?

They (the kidnappers) are being held in Belgrade prison
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline Carana

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #133 on: April 21, 2015, 11:32:49 AM »
From March, but I don't recall having seen it before.

A narrator describes what happened and the Serbian mother describes how she managed to grab her daughter, but was pushed off and broke her fingers. The family apparently left their home in Belgrade for a while to get over it (and probably to avoid the media pack). The mother is a French teacher, oddly enough, but there's no indication as to whether the child understood French or not.

The little one was in shock "as if she didn't hear anything".

There's a short interview with the lawyer for Alexia (the French grandmother) who said that what has emerged in the media is just speculation and he doesn't know where the theories have come from. He doesn't believe the paternity DNA story that appeared in the press or the human trafficking one. (And probably even less the latest "organ-trafficking" one, although that only emerged a few days ago.) He doesn't say what he thinks did happen, though.

http://videos.tf1.fr/infos/2015/deux-semaines-apres-le-rapt-de-sa-fille-a-belgrade-elle-temoigne-8582893.html

Offline MICHEL

Re: Serbia. French kidnappers claim abduction was part of a paternity scam.
« Reply #134 on: April 22, 2015, 09:19:49 AM »

With this pictures I can prove that I'm the ex_husband  and the father of the two kidnappers and the grand_father of the baby in france and that I say is true.

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