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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What is Trolling?
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2015, 07:53:29 PM »
She was displaying hatred.

It's highly subjective

Offline Benice

Re: What is Trolling?
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2015, 08:17:58 PM »
She was displaying hatred.

IMO BL certainly was in some of  her tweets that I have seen.

Not sure how you work out that Carole Malone was.    If I say I hate cruelty to animals and say what I think about people who are cruel to animals  - is that me being a hateful cruel person?    Not in my neck of the woods it's not.

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Offline G-Unit

Re: What is Trolling?
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2015, 08:19:21 PM »
Some would say she is quite rightly condemning poisonous displays of hatred not inciting it.   If she was congratulating BL on a job well done that would be incitement IMO.    But she was doing the opposite.


I think you have identified the problem very well there. 'Some people' would agree with what Carole Malone wrote. 'Other people' would say she was making a personal attack on BL with the intention of hurting her. It's a subjective opinion either way.

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Offline Eleanor

Re: What is Trolling?
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2015, 08:30:53 PM »

There is always someone who starts these things.

Offline G-Unit

Re: What is Trolling?
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2015, 08:32:56 PM »
That is  a grey area........were the mccanns breaking any laws with their child care

As we know they weren't. Another grey area when it comes to 'public opinion' though. Some have excused or forgiven them others were horrified.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: What is Trolling?
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2015, 08:38:35 PM »
As we know they weren't. Another grey area when it comes to 'public opinion' though. Some have excused or forgiven them others were horrified.

Since they broke no laws it was no one's business but their own.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: What is Trolling?
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2015, 08:41:11 PM »
She was displaying hatred.

She most certainly was, unless calling someone a 'twisted, fecked up bitch' isn't hateful of course.

Although, I do think Carole Malone is a demented old hag,.... but that doesn't mean that I hate her.

But I do hate her, as it happens.

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Offline G-Unit

Re: What is Trolling?
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2015, 08:41:25 PM »
IMO BL certainly was in some of  her tweets that I have seen.

Not sure how you work out that Carole Malone was.    If I say I hate cruelty to animals and say what I think about people who are cruel to animals  - is that me being a hateful cruel person?    Not in my neck of the woods it's not.

Should you say whatever you like about them though? If I was saying what I thought about people who are cruel to animals I would say I deplore their actions and I cannot imagine what sort of person would do that. I wouldn't necessarily focus on their life style and character and call them names. That demeans me.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What is Trolling?
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2015, 08:44:56 PM »
As we know they weren't. Another grey area when it comes to 'public opinion' though. Some have excused or forgiven them others were horrified.

what's the point in not forgiving

Offline Benice

Re: What is Trolling?
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2015, 08:45:55 PM »


I think you have identified the problem very well there. 'Some people' would agree with what Carole Malone wrote. 'Other people' would say she was making a personal attack on BL with the intention of hurting her. It's a subjective opinion either way.


I think people who are not interested in the case and are not following it would mainly agree with Carole Malone.  As would most 'supporters' of the McCanns IMO.        People who spend their time on Twitter shrieking abuse at the McCanns day in and day out will obviously see it differently as they are doing exactly the same themselves as BL was.

Although why anyone would actually want to spend so much time just being abusive to other people - I have no idea.   But for some reason they appear to thoroughly enjoy it!!   Personally -  I just don't get that.

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Benice

Re: What is Trolling?
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2015, 08:58:55 PM »
Should you say whatever you like about them though? If I was saying what I thought about people who are cruel to animals I would say I deplore their actions and I cannot imagine what sort of person would do that. I wouldn't necessarily focus on their life style and character and call them names. That demeans me.

But surely the same can be said about BL.     She was an intelligent articulate woman, and could have expressed her doubts and concerns about the McCanns without resorting to such abuse and spite.   

It's not difficult to remain relatively courteous when exchanging differing views.   We do it every day in real life.
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline G-Unit

Re: What is Trolling?
« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2015, 09:05:46 PM »
Since they broke no laws it was no one's business but their own.

Quite possibly. Some people, however, think that different child care arrangements would have meant a different outcome on 3rd May. There has been discussion on here about abductors entering houses and taking children when the parents were in the house. In the case of the alleged abduction of Madeleine McCann, however, it is claimed by the parents that it happened when they were absent. Some people have suggested that it wouldn't have happened if they had been present or if they had paid for a baby sitter or used the night creche. Do they have the right to express their opinions? That's a matter of opinion. I wonder what people would do if they saw a neighbour going out dining and drinking every night for six nights and leaving their small children alone? Some people would report them, others would do nothing, others would offer to baby sit, depending on their opinions.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: What is Trolling?
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2015, 09:27:57 PM »

I think people who are not interested in the case and are not following it would mainly agree with Carole Malone.  As would most 'supporters' of the McCanns IMO.        People who spend their time on Twitter shrieking abuse at the McCanns day in and day out will obviously see it differently as they are doing exactly the same themselves as BL was.

Although why anyone would actually want to spend so much time just being abusive to other people - I have no idea.   But for some reason they appear to thoroughly enjoy it!!   Personally -  I just don't get that.

There are McCann 'supporters' who spend their time on Twitter shrieking abuse at those who don't support the McCanns, it's a two way street.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What is Trolling?
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2015, 09:33:04 PM »
There are McCann 'supporters' who spend their time on Twitter shrieking abuse at those who don't support the McCanns, it's a two way street.

it isn't a two way street...people on this forum take the p out of Davel...Davel doesn't exist...it doesn't matter....
The abuse towards the McCanns is real

Offline slartibartfast

Re: What is Trolling?
« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2015, 10:15:13 PM »
Since they broke no laws it was no one's business but their own.

Bit like BL then.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.