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Offline faithlilly

Re: What is Trolling?
« Reply #45 on: March 21, 2015, 11:37:19 PM »
WS I was reluctant to cite you as a prime example ... thank you for saving me the embarrassment of 'outing' another forum member.

Have you outed one already then ?  &%+((£
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline carlymichelle

Re: What is Trolling?
« Reply #46 on: March 21, 2015, 11:38:04 PM »
Have you outed one already then ?  &%+((£

wouldnt that be a  form of trolling and cyber bullying  &%+((£

Lyall

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Re: What is Trolling?
« Reply #47 on: March 21, 2015, 11:46:40 PM »
I'm sure it must be easier to get the police to take action over racist or homophobic bullying than bullying of individuals that does not have a racist or homophobic slant, but I await your data with interest.

Police aren't vigilantes, unlike the Sky News bunch. But the police certainly move fast in instances such as the tweet(s) about the murdered teacher. I believe there was another example with someone saying daft things after the Glasgow bin truck crash. There was also a chap speedily visited by rozzers after he said something about Ukip.

Why and how they decide to move quickly in some instances but slowly if at all in the rest I've no idea.

Lyall

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Re: What is Trolling?
« Reply #48 on: March 21, 2015, 11:53:26 PM »
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/may/12/police-ask-blogger-remove-legitimate-tweet-ukip
Police ask blogger to remove tweet about Ukip

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ann-maguire-leeds-teacher-tweets-3512456
Vile Twitter troll jailed for posting abusive messages about murder of teacher Ann Maguire

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What is Trolling?
« Reply #49 on: March 22, 2015, 07:16:47 AM »
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/may/12/police-ask-blogger-remove-legitimate-tweet-ukip
Police ask blogger to remove tweet about Ukip

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ann-maguire-leeds-teacher-tweets-3512456
Vile Twitter troll jailed for posting abusive messages about murder of teacher Ann Maguire


I thought the police were so busy chasing murderers and terrorists but no....plenty of time to visit law abiding bloggers

Offline G-Unit

Re: What is Trolling?
« Reply #50 on: March 22, 2015, 07:46:05 AM »
Seems to me that trolling can range from being unpleasant to being criminal. In cases where the police get involved the troller has committed an offense.

Robert Riley and Peter Nunn were both prosecuted for sending grossly offensive and/or menacing messages. This is the law they were prosecuted under;

Communications Act 2003 Section 127(1) covers offensive and threatening messages sent over a "public" electronic communications network. Since 2010 it has increasingly been used to arrest and prosecute individuals for messages posted to sites such as Twitter and Facebook. Section 127(2) covers causing annoyance by sending messages known to be false, which is one of the laws that hoax-999 callers can be prosecuted under.

However, not all such messages will lead to prosecution. The guidelines say;

The Director of Public Prosecutions' 'interim guidelines' (December 2012) for social media prosecutions include the use of Section 127. These attempt to limit the usage of Section 127, to cases which go beyond those which are "offensive, shocking or disturbing; or satirical, iconoclastic or rude; or the expression of unpopular; or unfashionable opinion about serious or trivial matters, or banter or humour, even if distasteful to some or painful to those subjected to it".[1]
https://wiki.openrightsgroup.org/wiki/Communications_Act_2003/Section_127

I am concluding that calling someone a troll is meaningless. The word has been hijacked by the media and is used to suggest that everyone making posts on the internet which upset others are criminals. Clearly they aren't. In the case of the McCanns no one has been prosecuted as far as I know despite the campaign waged by their supporters.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What is Trolling?
« Reply #51 on: March 22, 2015, 08:04:38 AM »
Seems to me that trolling can range from being unpleasant to being criminal. In cases where the police get involved the troller has committed an offense.

Robert Riley and Peter Nunn were both prosecuted for sending grossly offensive and/or menacing messages. This is the law they were prosecuted under;

Communications Act 2003 Section 127(1) covers offensive and threatening messages sent over a "public" electronic communications network. Since 2010 it has increasingly been used to arrest and prosecute individuals for messages posted to sites such as Twitter and Facebook. Section 127(2) covers causing annoyance by sending messages known to be false, which is one of the laws that hoax-999 callers can be prosecuted under.

However, not all such messages will lead to prosecution. The guidelines say;

The Director of Public Prosecutions' 'interim guidelines' (December 2012) for social media prosecutions include the use of Section 127. These attempt to limit the usage of Section 127, to cases which go beyond those which are "offensive, shocking or disturbing; or satirical, iconoclastic or rude; or the expression of unpopular; or unfashionable opinion about serious or trivial matters, or banter or humour, even if distasteful to some or painful to those subjected to it".[1]
https://wiki.openrightsgroup.org/wiki/Communications_Act_2003/Section_127

I am concluding that calling someone a troll is meaningless. The word has been hijacked by the media and is used to suggest that everyone making posts on the internet which upset others are criminals. Clearly they aren't. In the case of the McCanns no one has been prosecuted as far as I know despite the campaign waged by their supporters.

It certainly isn't meaningless and aptly describes some posters behaviour...like many words it means different things to different popele

Offline G-Unit

Re: What is Trolling?
« Reply #52 on: March 22, 2015, 08:31:11 AM »
It certainly isn't meaningless and aptly describes some posters behaviour...like many words it means different things to different popele

So if I called you a troll would you know what i meant?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: What is Trolling?
« Reply #53 on: March 22, 2015, 08:40:12 AM »
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What is Trolling?
« Reply #54 on: March 22, 2015, 10:33:02 AM »
So if I called you a troll would you know what i meant?

I've been called a troll several times on here...and I know what people mean..it certainly doesn't imply criminal behaviour

Offline G-Unit

Re: What is Trolling?
« Reply #55 on: March 22, 2015, 10:37:41 AM »
I've been called a troll several times on here...and I know what people mean..it certainly doesn't imply criminal behaviour


What do people on here mean when they call you a troll then?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What is Trolling?
« Reply #56 on: March 22, 2015, 10:48:27 AM »


What do people on here mean when they call you a troll then?

Make a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: What is Trolling?
« Reply #57 on: March 22, 2015, 11:21:51 AM »
Make a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.
There's only one true troll operating on this forum who absolutely fulfills that description with virtually every post he makes and that is dear ol Spammy, IMO.

Offline faithlilly

Re: What is Trolling?
« Reply #58 on: March 22, 2015, 11:27:56 AM »
There's only one true troll operating on this forum who absolutely fulfills that description with virtually every post he makes and that is dear ol Spammy, IMO.

Isn't it deliberately provocative and offensive to call WS a troll ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: What is Trolling?
« Reply #59 on: March 22, 2015, 11:37:17 AM »
Isn't it deliberately provocative and offensive to call WS a troll ?
No, he obviously is one and even admits it himself.  BTW, I've just posted some thoughts on your theory in the relevant section  8((()*/