Madeleine McCann Press coverage - Was it a Saviour or a Damnation?

[Mr Gray]

The fact that you find it important enough to take time out of your happy life to call me names and set me into a /category, says more about you than me.

The McCANNS COURTED THE PRESS FROM THE BEGINNING- for PR reasons in my opinion.

fortunately your opinion...nor mine ..is of any importance whatsoever

[faithlilly]

'Wonder' no more -  AFAIK they didn't go  jogging - but Paul Jones did find it helped to go for long walks up the surrounding hills a lot.  I suppose as long as he never broke into a jog - that's OK with you?   

Why would they want to meet the Pope - they weren't Catholics?

Also - if we are making comparisons  - it would appear that April's parents did not spend the whole night out and about searching for their daughter on the day she was abducted.   Nor did they join in with the following searches.    An unforgiveable sin apparently.
 
They also set up a fund - not a charity.

Like Kate - Coral has also said she will always carry the guilt of knowing that she allowed her little girl to  be in a situation where an abductor was able to take her.

Unlike the rest of us  - Coral Jones actually knows Kate McCann - and believes and supports her - along with other parents of abducted children - like Sara Payne and Kerry Needham.

I often wonder how 'sceptics' square that extremely inconvenient fact with their own completely opposite beliefs?

 

The April Jones fund was given charitable status so you are wrong Benice it was a charity. I believe it has now been wound up with the remaining monies given to local causes. But while it was functioning I believe it was used to pay for search teams. Another difference to the Madeleine fund is April's parents were not directors of the fund.

As to Carol 'knowing' Kate McCann I believe she's met her on a few occasions, a bit like saying Teresa May knows Kate McCann just because they've met. I may be wrong but I don't think either Sara Payne or Kerry Needham have met Kate so I'm sure have no more knowledge of Madeleine's disappearance than us.

[Miss Taken Identity]

The April Jones fund was given charitable status so you are wrong Benice it was a charity. I believe it has now been wound up with the remaining monies given to local causes. But while it was functioning I believe it was used to pay for search teams. Another difference to the Madeleine fund is April's parents were not directors of the fund.

As to Carol 'knowing' Kate McCann I believe she's met her on a few occasions, a bit like saying Teresa May knows Kate McCann just because they've met. I may be wrong but I don't think either Sara Payne or Kerry Needham have met Kate so I'm sure have no more knowledge of Madeleine's disappearance than us.

There are many differences with the McCANNS and other ,missing,/ Murdered children.
There was evidence to convict in most cases. Aprils mum does feel guilty-the fact is most people would- She didn't stand in From of a TV crew defending herself- as she didn't need to,unlike the McCANNS who went straight onto the defensive saying they could see the apartment-checking regularly etc.  The other children were doing normal children things...Out playing with their friends. Not being left alone in a strange countrywith no knowledge of the language in case they got into difficulty...not the same at all. 

[John]

As happens quite often, courting the media has a sting in the tail or should that be tale?

People tend to forget that the only reason the Press get involved in these events is to pay the mortgage.  I have yet to meet a Press reporter who does what he does out of some sense of moral necessity.

In many cases this need to sell their story tends to influence the story itself or at least the way in which it is reported.  Bad news, someone's misfortune and sensationalism will always sell more newspapers so will attract a larger fee...a fact of life unfortunately.  The lies printed by the Daily Star namely, "Maddie found in Ireland" and "Maddie found in Greece" being classic examples.

[Benice]

The April Jones fund was given charitable status so you are wrong Benice it was a charity. I believe it has now been wound up with the remaining monies given to local causes. But while it was functioning I believe it was used to pay for search teams. Another difference to the Madeleine fund is April's parents were not directors of the fund.

As to Carol 'knowing' Kate McCann I believe she's met her on a few occasions, a bit like saying Teresa May knows Kate McCann just because they've met. I may be wrong but I don't think either Sara Payne or Kerry Needham have met Kate so I'm sure have no more knowledge of Madeleine's disappearance than us.

Re the Fund.  I took that info from BBC news (Wales).   No mention of a charity.

Quote
A fund set up in memory of murdered five-year-old April Jones has given around £80,000 to almost two dozen local charities and groups.

The fund was formed just days after April disappeared while playing near her home in Machynlleth, Powys, on 1 October, 2012.

Her former school is among 23 beneficiaries of the donations from around the world.
End quote.

No mention of paying for search teams.  Could you provide a cite?

You can  attempt to play down how well the mothers of other abducted children know the McCanns as much as you like.    The fact is that they all believe and support the McCanns.   If there is evidence to the contrary - I would like to know what it is.     I've never seen any.

The idea that they don't know the McCanns any better than the rest of us is pure 'wishful thinking' on your part  IMO Faith.

[jassi]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-mid-wales-21173293

also - The official April Jones Fund was established by Machynlleth Town Council, and more recently, a Charitable Trust  - independent of April's family but run in accordance with their wishes.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/april-jones-fund-benefit-local-2548092

http://www.countytimes.co.uk/news/117460/missing-april-jones-fund-to-be-registered-as-a-charity.aspx

[Benice]

also - The official April Jones Fund was established by Machynlleth Town Council, and more recently, a Charitable Trust  - independent of April's family but run in accordance with their wishes.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/april-jones-fund-benefit-local-2548092

I'm not disputing the fact that it eventually changed to a Charitable Trust - but it did start as a Fund as far as I can see.

IIRC it is not possible to set up a charity in one persons's name.   I presume this also applied in April's case.

I notice that one of the 'conditions' is that it was run in accordance with the family's wishes - so the fact that they were not 'officials' of the charity makes little difference IMO. 

The major difference is that Aprils's case was solved and so the Jones family were able to wind up the charity.
If Madeleine's case is ever solved, then no doubt the McCanns will be doing the same.

[jassi]

I'm not disputing the fact that it eventually changed to a Charitable Trust - but it did start as a Fund as far as I can see.

IIRC it is not possible to set up a charity in one persons's name.   I presume this also applied in April's case.

I notice that one of the 'conditions' is that it was run in accordance with the family's wishes - so the fact that they were not 'officials' of the charity makes little difference IMO. 

The major difference is that Aprils's case was solved and so the Jones family were able to wind up the charity.
If Madeleine's case is ever solved, then no doubt the McCanns will be doing the same.

Not what you said -

Re the Fund.  I took that info from BBC news (Wales).  No mention of a charity.

Quote
A fund set up in memory of murdered five-year-old April Jones has given around £80,000 to almost two dozen local charities and groups.

The fund was formed just days after April disappeared while playing near her home in Machynlleth, Powys, on 1 October, 2012.

Her former school is among 23 beneficiaries of the donations from around the world.
End quote.

No mention of paying for search teams.  Could you provide a cite?

[faithlilly]

Re the Fund.  I took that info from BBC news (Wales).   No mention of a charity.

Quote
A fund set up in memory of murdered five-year-old April Jones has given around £80,000 to almost two dozen local charities and groups.

The fund was formed just days after April disappeared while playing near her home in Machynlleth, Powys, on 1 October, 2012.

Her former school is among 23 beneficiaries of the donations from around the world.
End quote.

No mention of paying for search teams.  Could you provide a cite?

You can  attempt to play down how well the mothers of other abducted children know the McCanns as much as you like.    The fact is that they all believe and support the McCanns.   If there is evidence to the contrary - I would like to know what it is.     I've never seen any.

The idea that they don't know the McCanns any better than the rest of us is pure 'wishful thinking' on your part  IMO Faith.

http://www.countytimes.co.uk/news/117460/missing-april-jones-fund-to-be-registered-as-a-charity.aspx

As to the Neddhams, Sara Payne and April's family having any more idea what the McCanns are really like or indeed the veracity of their abduction tale than you or I perhaps you'd tell us how ?

[Benice]

Not what you said -

Re the Fund.  I took that info from BBC news (Wales).  No mention of a charity.

Quote
A fund set up in memory of murdered five-year-old April Jones has given around £80,000 to almost two dozen local charities and groups.

The fund was formed just days after April disappeared while playing near her home in Machynlleth, Powys, on 1 October, 2012.

Her former school is among 23 beneficiaries of the donations from around the world.
End quote.

No mention of paying for search teams.  Could you provide a cite?

But there is no mention of a charity in that cite I gave you.  It's described as a fund.  I've now been made aware that charitable status was acquired at some later date - which I have accepted.

I can't see what your problem is Faith?   

[faithlilly]

But there is no mention of a charity in that cite I gave you.  It's described as a fund.  I've now been made aware that charitable status was acquired at some later date - which I have accepted.

I can't see what your problem is Faith?

You were replying to a post by jassi. Not sure where I became involved.

[Benice]

You were replying to a post by jassi. Not sure where I became involved.

Sorry Faith my mistake.

[faithlilly]

Sorry Faith my mistake.

Not the first one this morning Benice.

[Benice]

http://www.countytimes.co.uk/news/117460/missing-april-jones-fund-to-be-registered-as-a-charity.aspx

As to the Neddhams, Sara Payne and April's family having any more idea what the McCanns are really like or indeed the veracity of their abduction tale than you or I perhaps you'd tell us how ?

As far as I know all  the above have been in contact with the McCanns - to what extent we don't know - except that as Coral Jones and Kate joined forces to launch the Child Rescue Alert System - imo that would involve spending quite a lot of time together.

As the obvious experts on the subject of child abduction - from the parents perspective  -  and having observed the McCanns for 8 years, it would appear that none of them have come to the same conclusions as sceptics have.    I would have thought no-one would be better qualified to spot a fake than those parents.

Pure speculation on my part, but I suspect that publicising contact with the McCanns would be avoided by other mothers of abducted children - due to the load of abuse they would inevitably be subjecting themselves to from those conducting a venomous h.a.t.e campaign against the McCanns.

[Benice]

Not the first one this morning Benice.

Do please fill me in Faith.     Although I must go out now - so will have to wait to see what they are.

How far up the scale of the  'seriousness of mistakes'   does mistaking a reply from one poster as being a reply from another poster stand?

Shall I prepare myself for sackcloth and ashes?

(Now I really must go.    Have a pleasant day)