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Offline Anna

Re: Madeleine McCann Press coverage - Was it a Saviour or a Damnation?
« Reply #165 on: April 16, 2015, 12:40:42 PM »
Carol meets Kate.....Good coverage for both parents IMO


Madeleine McCann's mum Kate and April Jones' mum Coral launch Child Rescue Alert
Kate McCann and Coral Jones urge the public to sign up to the new text and email system
By Keith Kendrick May 21, 2014
Updated: August 19, 2014 4:39 PM

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Madeleine McCann's mum Kate and Coral Jones, the mum of murdered five-year-old April, have joined forces to help endangered children.

Coral, 44, appealed to the public to sign up to the Child Rescue Alert text and email system as the two mums met for the first time.

It will send out an alert when a child has been taken or is believed to be in peril.

Coral - whose daughter April was murdered by paedophile Mark Bridger in Wales in 2012 - said: "I want us to work together to make a difference."

Speaking at London's St Pancras train station, she added: "I really hope something positive can come of this."

Kate, 46, said: "There is now something we can all do to help."

Her daughter, Madeleine, disappeared from a resort in Portugal in 2007 aged three.

For more information on Child Rescue Alert, visit Childrescuealert.org.uk.

http://www.parentdish.co.uk/2014/05/21/madeleine-mccanns-mum-kate-and-april-jones-mum-coral-launch-child-rescue-alert/#!slide=aol_1003675
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Madeleine McCann Press coverage - Was it a Saviour or a Damnation?
« Reply #166 on: April 16, 2015, 12:55:41 PM »

As far as I know all  the above have been in contact with the McCanns - to what extent we don't know - except that as Coral Jones and Kate joined forces to launch the Child Rescue Alert System - imo that would involve spending quite a lot of time together.

As the obvious experts on the subject of child abduction - from the parents perspective  -  and having observed the McCanns for 8 years, it would appear that none of them have come to the same conclusions as sceptics have.    I would have thought no-one would be better qualified to spot a fake than those parents.

Pure speculation on my part, but I suspect that publicising contact with the McCanns would be avoided by other mothers of abducted children - due to the load of abuse they would inevitably be subjecting themselves to from those conducting a venomous h.a.t.e campaign against the McCanns.

Be honest neither you nor I have any idea how much contact any of the parents mentioned have had with the McCanns although a meeting between Kerry and Kate was turned down by Kate several years ago. As to April's mums contact with Kate it is entirely possible they only met for the photo shoot.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Anna

Re: Madeleine McCann Press coverage - Was it a Saviour or a Damnation?
« Reply #167 on: April 16, 2015, 01:08:48 PM »
I’m Kate McCann’s worst nightmare. She’s had 6 years of hell. I’ve had 22. It must have been hard meeting me
Says KERRY NEEDHAM, whose son Ben is missing

Suffering ... Kerry Needham has spent 22 years searching for her missing son Ben Ross Parry
By ANTONELLA LAZZERI
published
2 years ago
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/woman/real_life/4913188/kerry-needham-on-meeting-kate-mccann.html

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Offline faithlilly

Re: Madeleine McCann Press coverage - Was it a Saviour or a Damnation?
« Reply #168 on: April 16, 2015, 01:17:20 PM »
I’m Kate McCann’s worst nightmare. She’s had 6 years of hell. I’ve had 22. It must have been hard meeting me
Says KERRY NEEDHAM, whose son Ben is missing

Suffering ... Kerry Needham has spent 22 years searching for her missing son Ben Ross Parry
By ANTONELLA LAZZERI
published
2 years ago
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/woman/real_life/4913188/kerry-needham-on-meeting-kate-mccann.html

Thank you Anna. I know Kate initially turned down the chance to meet Kerry. Do you have the rest of the article ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Anna

Re: Madeleine McCann Press coverage - Was it a Saviour or a Damnation?
« Reply #169 on: April 16, 2015, 01:19:59 PM »
Thank you Anna. I know Kate initially turned down the chance to meet Kerry. Do you have the rest of the article ?

I'm afraid that is all that was on it, Faith, as the link, but I will have a look and see what I can find.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Madeleine McCann Press coverage - Was it a Saviour or a Damnation?
« Reply #170 on: April 16, 2015, 01:22:20 PM »
I'm afraid that is all that was on it, Faith, as the link, but I will have a look and see what I can find.

Thank you Anna.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Anna

Re: Madeleine McCann Press coverage - Was it a Saviour or a Damnation?
« Reply #171 on: April 16, 2015, 01:28:49 PM »
Thank you Anna.

You are welcome Faith, Not an arranged meeting, I don't think, but they met.

here you go:-



THEY are the mothers in two of the highest-profile child abductions ever.

But when Kerry Needham came face to face with Kate McCann she was lost for words.

Kerry says: “What possible words of comfort could I ever offer her?

“Could I say it gets any better? No. What advice could I give her? What could I tell her to do that she hasn’t done already?

“Meeting me must have been very difficult for Kate — she has had six years of hell, I’ve had 22.

“I must be her worst nightmare because I prove her situation could go on for years.

“The only thing I could say is to never stop searching and never give up. I haven’t, and I won’t.”

Kerry’s 21-month-old son Ben was snatched on July 24, 1991, as he played in fields outside a farmhouse his grandfather was renovating on the island of Kos, Greece.

Kerry, then a young mum aged 19, was at work in a local bar.

Despite a huge global manhunt, Ben has never been found. He would now be 23.

Kerry met Kate — whose three-year-old daughter Madeleine was abducted from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal on May 3, 2007 — at a Downing Street reception to mark International Missing Children’s Day.
http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic19997.html
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Madeleine McCann Press coverage - Was it a Saviour or a Damnation?
« Reply #172 on: April 16, 2015, 01:36:19 PM »
'Wonder' no more -  AFAIK they didn't go  jogging - but Paul Jones did find it helped to go for long walks up the surrounding hills a lot.  I suppose as long as he never broke into a jog - that's OK with you?   

Why would they want to meet the Pope - they weren't Catholics?

Also - if we are making comparisons  - it would appear that April's parents did not spend the whole night out and about searching for their daughter on the day she was abducted.   Nor did they join in with the following searches.    An unforgiveable sin apparently.
 
They also set up a fund - not a charity.

Like Kate - Coral has also said she will always carry the guilt of knowing that she allowed her little girl to  be in a situation where an abductor was able to take her.

Unlike the rest of us  - Coral Jones actually knows Kate McCann - and believes and supports her - along with other parents of abducted children - like Sara Payne and Kerry Needham.

I often wonder how 'sceptics' square that extremely inconvenient fact with their own completely opposite beliefs?

 

It is not inconvenient so wonder no more. It makes not one jot of difference to my thoughts whether they were best mates or sworn enemies and what was a charity and what wasn't. Some might it find it fun to argue about I suppose but in the general scheme of things 'tis largely irrelevant. IMHO of course
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Re: Madeleine McCann Press coverage - Was it a Saviour or a Damnation?
« Reply #173 on: April 16, 2015, 02:01:55 PM »
Here you are, Anna.

I’m Kate McCann’s worst nightmare. She’s had 6 years of hell. I’ve had 22. It must have been hard meeting meSays KERRY NEEDHAM, whose son Ben is missing


THEY are the mothers in two of the highest-profile child abductions ever.

But when Kerry Needham came face to face with Kate McCann she was lost for words.

Kerry says: “What possible words of comfort could I ever offer her?

“Could I say it gets any better? No. What advice could I give her? What could I tell her to do that she hasn’t done already?

“Meeting me must have been very difficult for Kate — she has had six years of hell, I’ve had 22.

“I must be her worst nightmare because I prove her situation could go on for years.

“The only thing I could say is to never stop searching and never give up. I haven’t, and I won’t.”

Kerry’s 21-month-old son Ben was snatched on July 24, 1991, as he played in fields outside a farmhouse his grandfather was renovating on the island of Kos, Greece.

Kerry, then a young mum aged 19, was at work in a local bar.

Despite a huge global manhunt, Ben has never been found. He would now be 23.

Kerry met Kate — whose three-year-old daughter Madeleine was abducted from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal on May 3, 2007 — at a Downing Street reception to mark International Missing Children’s Day.

Next week a book, called simply Ben, detailing Kerry’s heartbreaking search for her son and the effect it has had on her family will be published.

Kerry says she has wanted to write a book for years, but adds bitterly: “When we approached publishers, they didn’t want to know because they said there was no ending.”

In the flesh, Kerry is much prettier and younger-looking than pictures portray her.

Gone is the short-haired teenager who was photographed looked bewildered after Ben went missing.

Now she is a middle-aged mum desperate for a happy ending that never comes.

Speaking at her home in Sheffield, Kerry says: “Not knowing destroys you, it’s a never-ending nightmare. But if I knew, I could cope.

“If Ben was alive but didn’t want to know me, I would have to deal with that — just as long as I knew. He could be married with kids and may not remember me at all.

“I’ve rehearsed what I would say if I saw someone I thought could be him.

“I wouldn’t say, ‘Hi, I think I’m your mum’, because I fear that could frighten him off.

“Instead I would say, ‘I think I know someone who knows you’, then try to get as much info as possible.

“My theory is that Ben was taken to be sold for adoption.

“Child trafficking is a huge issue — it happens an awful lot more than people realise.”

Kerry is also realistic enough to know that Ben may not be alive.

She says: “All I’ve ever wished for is an ending and if that was the case, at least that is an ending. But I’m still full of hope.”

Kerry believes she will find Ben one day because she has “an overwhelming feeling he is still alive”.

She says: “I just feel it... call it a mother’s instinct, whatever.

“I believe that if Ben was dead, a part of me would know and this driving feeling to search would stop.

“But it never goes. Every day I wake up and think, ‘Right, what next? What can we do now?’ ”

Kerry and her family — particularly her daughter Leighanna — have paid a high price for that search. In her book, Kerry reveals that five years after Ben went missing she embarked on a drink and drugs binge that lasted four months.

During that time she left Leighanna — only a toddler then — with her parents.

Kerry cringes at the memory, admitting: “I know, how could I? How could someone who had lost their first child then leave their second?

“But I truly believe if I hadn’t done that, I wouldn’t be here now — I was ripping myself apart.

“I had tried suicide several times and had a recurring dream where I would find Ben with strangers, grab him and run, run, run through the streets of Kos.

“Then I got to a police station and I was begging them to believe the baby was Ben but they wouldn’t.

“They demanded I give the baby back — then I would wake up.

“When we moved back from Kos, I did Ben’s room up with Winnie the Pooh wallpaper and began to hear a baby cry.

“Over and over again I would hear Ben crying. I would often wake up lying on his bed and not remember how I got there.

“No one deserves to live like that — I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy.”

Kerry also had to deal with the attention Ben’s abduction brought.

She says: “Everywhere I went, people would point and stare.

“People came up to me in the street and one woman even said, ‘You’re Ben Needham’s mum. I don’t know how you’re still here’.

“That made me feel terrible — as if I should have killed myself.

“I was riddled with guilt for leaving Ben, for not being able to find him... I lost myself.

“Then, when I was 24, I started working at a nightclub. For the first time in years, I was just Kerry — not Ben Needham’s mum.

“People didn’t treat me differently, they didn’t look at me with pity, they weren’t judging me... I started partying after work and taking amphetamines. Drink and drugs helped with the horrible, crushing pain that never went away. I’m not proud of it, but I believe that, in a way, it saved me.”

Kerry finally came to her senses when Ben and Leighanna’s father, Simon Ward, rang to tell her his dad had just died.

She says: “I thought, ‘What am I doing? I have a daughter’.

“I went to my parents’ house and Leighanna ran up to me, saying, ‘Mummy, Mummy’.

“She literally saved me. I had something to live for, something to get up for, someone to make me feel like I WAS a good mother.”

Sitting listening to her mum talk is Leighanna, a pretty, blonde girl who looks remarkably like Ben.

Now 20, she reveals that, at times, growing up in Ben’s shadow has been difficult.

Leighanna says: “I didn’t have any freedom, as you can imagine. Mum wouldn’t let me out of her sight.

“I just wanted to be a normal teenager but I couldn’t, I always had to come straight home at 6pm.

“I understood, of course I did, but at times it felt oppressive.

“Even now, if I go out I have to text Mum several times saying who I am with and where I am.

“But I don’t mind because I know that if I don’t, she will be going out of her mind at home.”

There are lots of photos of Ben dotted around Kerry’s home.

Leighanna looks at one and smiles, saying: “It’s strange, but I have always felt like his older sister because the only images of him I know are of him as a baby.”

Leighanna, a trainee accountant, now helps her mum with the ongoing search for Ben, using social media to spread the word about her brother.

She says: “I’ve known about Ben since I was tiny.

“When I started going for job interviews, they sometimes asked, ‘Do you have any brothers and sisters?’ And of course I had to say, ‘Well...’

“It’s little things like that that make you realise what a strange situation we are in.”

Kerry looks at her daughter with a mixture of pride and sadness.

She says: “I don’t want to grow old like this, never knowing. It kills you.

“I hope there is an ending soon as I don’t want Leighanna to have to live with this for another 20 years.

“I want her and me to have some sort of normal family life — the life we’ve never had.”

Ben, by Kerry Needham, will be published by Ebury Press on May 9, £16.99. Also available as an ebook.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/4913188/kerry-needham-on-meeting-kate-mccann.html
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Offline Anna

Re: Madeleine McCann Press coverage - Was it a Saviour or a Damnation?
« Reply #174 on: April 16, 2015, 02:17:16 PM »
Here you are, Anna.

I’m Kate McCann’s worst nightmare. She’s had 6 years of hell. I’ve had 22. It must have been hard meeting meSays KERRY NEEDHAM, whose son Ben is missing


THEY are the mothers in two of the highest-profile child abductions ever.

But when Kerry Needham came face to face with Kate McCann she was lost for words.

Kerry says: “What possible words of comfort could I ever offer her?

“Could I say it gets any better? No. What advice could I give her? What could I tell her to do that she hasn’t done already?

“Meeting me must have been very difficult for Kate — she has had six years of hell, I’ve had 22.

“I must be her worst nightmare because I prove her situation could go on for years.

“The only thing I could say is to never stop searching and never give up. I haven’t, and I won’t.”

Kerry’s 21-month-old son Ben was snatched on July 24, 1991, as he played in fields outside a farmhouse his grandfather was renovating on the island of Kos, Greece.

Kerry, then a young mum aged 19, was at work in a local bar.

Despite a huge global manhunt, Ben has never been found. He would now be 23.

Kerry met Kate — whose three-year-old daughter Madeleine was abducted from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal on May 3, 2007 — at a Downing Street reception to mark International Missing Children’s Day.

Next week a book, called simply Ben, detailing Kerry’s heartbreaking search for her son and the effect it has had on her family will be published.

Kerry says she has wanted to write a book for years, but adds bitterly: “When we approached publishers, they didn’t want to know because they said there was no ending.”

In the flesh, Kerry is much prettier and younger-looking than pictures portray her.

Gone is the short-haired teenager who was photographed looked bewildered after Ben went missing.

Now she is a middle-aged mum desperate for a happy ending that never comes.

Speaking at her home in Sheffield, Kerry says: “Not knowing destroys you, it’s a never-ending nightmare. But if I knew, I could cope.

“If Ben was alive but didn’t want to know me, I would have to deal with that — just as long as I knew. He could be married with kids and may not remember me at all.

“I’ve rehearsed what I would say if I saw someone I thought could be him.

“I wouldn’t say, ‘Hi, I think I’m your mum’, because I fear that could frighten him off.

“Instead I would say, ‘I think I know someone who knows you’, then try to get as much info as possible.

“My theory is that Ben was taken to be sold for adoption.

“Child trafficking is a huge issue — it happens an awful lot more than people realise.”

Kerry is also realistic enough to know that Ben may not be alive.

She says: “All I’ve ever wished for is an ending and if that was the case, at least that is an ending. But I’m still full of hope.”

Kerry believes she will find Ben one day because she has “an overwhelming feeling he is still alive”.

She says: “I just feel it... call it a mother’s instinct, whatever.

“I believe that if Ben was dead, a part of me would know and this driving feeling to search would stop.

“But it never goes. Every day I wake up and think, ‘Right, what next? What can we do now?’ ”

Kerry and her family — particularly her daughter Leighanna — have paid a high price for that search. In her book, Kerry reveals that five years after Ben went missing she embarked on a drink and drugs binge that lasted four months.

During that time she left Leighanna — only a toddler then — with her parents.

Kerry cringes at the memory, admitting: “I know, how could I? How could someone who had lost their first child then leave their second?

“But I truly believe if I hadn’t done that, I wouldn’t be here now — I was ripping myself apart.

“I had tried suicide several times and had a recurring dream where I would find Ben with strangers, grab him and run, run, run through the streets of Kos.

“Then I got to a police station and I was begging them to believe the baby was Ben but they wouldn’t.

“They demanded I give the baby back — then I would wake up.

“When we moved back from Kos, I did Ben’s room up with Winnie the Pooh wallpaper and began to hear a baby cry.

“Over and over again I would hear Ben crying. I would often wake up lying on his bed and not remember how I got there.

“No one deserves to live like that — I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy.”

Kerry also had to deal with the attention Ben’s abduction brought.

She says: “Everywhere I went, people would point and stare.

“People came up to me in the street and one woman even said, ‘You’re Ben Needham’s mum. I don’t know how you’re still here’.

“That made me feel terrible — as if I should have killed myself.

“I was riddled with guilt for leaving Ben, for not being able to find him... I lost myself.

“Then, when I was 24, I started working at a nightclub. For the first time in years, I was just Kerry — not Ben Needham’s mum.

“People didn’t treat me differently, they didn’t look at me with pity, they weren’t judging me... I started partying after work and taking amphetamines. Drink and drugs helped with the horrible, crushing pain that never went away. I’m not proud of it, but I believe that, in a way, it saved me.”

Kerry finally came to her senses when Ben and Leighanna’s father, Simon Ward, rang to tell her his dad had just died.

She says: “I thought, ‘What am I doing? I have a daughter’.

“I went to my parents’ house and Leighanna ran up to me, saying, ‘Mummy, Mummy’.

“She literally saved me. I had something to live for, something to get up for, someone to make me feel like I WAS a good mother.”

Sitting listening to her mum talk is Leighanna, a pretty, blonde girl who looks remarkably like Ben.

Now 20, she reveals that, at times, growing up in Ben’s shadow has been difficult.

Leighanna says: “I didn’t have any freedom, as you can imagine. Mum wouldn’t let me out of her sight.

“I just wanted to be a normal teenager but I couldn’t, I always had to come straight home at 6pm.

“I understood, of course I did, but at times it felt oppressive.

“Even now, if I go out I have to text Mum several times saying who I am with and where I am.

“But I don’t mind because I know that if I don’t, she will be going out of her mind at home.”

There are lots of photos of Ben dotted around Kerry’s home.

Leighanna looks at one and smiles, saying: “It’s strange, but I have always felt like his older sister because the only images of him I know are of him as a baby.”

Leighanna, a trainee accountant, now helps her mum with the ongoing search for Ben, using social media to spread the word about her brother.

She says: “I’ve known about Ben since I was tiny.

“When I started going for job interviews, they sometimes asked, ‘Do you have any brothers and sisters?’ And of course I had to say, ‘Well...’

“It’s little things like that that make you realise what a strange situation we are in.”

Kerry looks at her daughter with a mixture of pride and sadness.

She says: “I don’t want to grow old like this, never knowing. It kills you.

“I hope there is an ending soon as I don’t want Leighanna to have to live with this for another 20 years.

“I want her and me to have some sort of normal family life — the life we’ve never had.”

Ben, by Kerry Needham, will be published by Ebury Press on May 9, £16.99. Also available as an ebook.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/4913188/kerry-needham-on-meeting-kate-mccann.html

Thank you DCI, That poor woman was so distraught, that she left her other young child and turned to drugs. I didn't know that.

Lets hope she has now learnt to live with the pain of losing her child. What else can the mother of a missing child do in the end, without going crazy.

I often wonder if they knew that their child was no longer alive, would it bring closure and allow them to eventually heal?
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Re: Madeleine McCann Press coverage - Was it a Saviour or a Damnation?
« Reply #175 on: April 16, 2015, 02:20:07 PM »
Thank you Anna. I know Kate initially turned down the chance to meet Kerry. Do you have the rest of the article ?

Yes in January 2008. Her reason given by Kerry.

In January 2008 Kerry was contacted by a television director, who was making a documentary about the McCanns. As Kerry remembers it, she was asked if she would like to meet Kate McCann; she said yes, as long as there were no cameras, no reporters, that they could meet as one bereft mother with another. But the meeting never took place. When I spoke to Clarence Mitchell in November 2008, he said that the film director hadn't asked Kerry if she wanted to meet Kate McCann, but whether she would appear in the documentary as the mother of a lost child. "Kate finds the idea of meeting a parent in that position quite daunting," he told me then.

"[Kerry] has been living with it for 18 years and the idea of facing it as long and stoically as Kerry has is a bit daunting. It's not that she doesn't want to meet her, she's sure she's a lovely person and maybe one day she will feel like it. But she doesn't want to face a lifetime without finding Madeleine."

So when a letter arrived out of the blue on 24 January from Kate McCann, Kerry was amazed.

"I thought it was sweet of her. I didn't think she'd ever get in contact with me. I was really moved, it's a really heartfelt letter. She'd wanted to be in touch with me, but had been scared of having to admit that Madeleine's disappearance might end up like Ben's. Nobody wants to think a child could be missing for years and years. If the boot had been on the other foot I wouldn't have wanted to get in touch with somebody whose child had been missing for all these years because it would give you no hope. You'd think, is that me in 18 years?"
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Re: Madeleine McCann Press coverage - Was it a Saviour or a Damnation?
« Reply #176 on: April 16, 2015, 03:44:10 PM »
So no arranged meeting between Kerry and Kate just a few snatched minutes at a Downing Street reception which they both attended. How can you gauge anything really based on a few scant words ?
« Last Edit: April 16, 2015, 05:02:35 PM by Mr Moderator »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Anna

Re: Madeleine McCann Press coverage - Was it a Saviour or a Damnation?
« Reply #177 on: April 16, 2015, 07:59:52 PM »

Please adhere to the topic of the thread. Thank you.

Re: Madeleine McCann Press coverage -  Was it a Saviour or a Damnation?
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Offline Anna

Re: Madeleine McCann Press coverage - Was it a Saviour or a Damnation?
« Reply #178 on: April 16, 2015, 09:04:27 PM »
As happens quite often, courting the media has a sting in the tail or should that be tale?

People tend to forget that the only reason the Press get involved in these events is to pay the mortgage.  I have yet to meet a Press reporter who does what he does out of some sense of moral necessity.

In many cases this need to sell their story tends to influence the story itself or at least the way in which it is reported.  Bad news, someone's misfortune and sensationalism will always sell more newspapers so will attract a larger fee...a fact of life unfortunately.  The lies printed by the Daily Star namely, "Maddie found in Ireland" and "Maddie found in Greece" being classic examples.

I totally agree, John.
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Offline Montclair

Re: Madeleine McCann Press coverage - Was it a Saviour or a Damnation?
« Reply #179 on: April 16, 2015, 09:43:11 PM »
Cop out.

You can know someone for years and still not know who they really are. How many women say: "I had no idea that my husband was a serial killer".