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Offline jassi

Re: McCanns demand Leicestershire Police open their Maddie files.
« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2015, 01:42:14 PM »
How does that work? They weren't arguidos when the broad court order was submitted in May 2007. And by the time of that court hearing, the final PJ report had been submitted and the legal summary was about to be produced.

In any case, why shouldn't people suspected of committing a crime be informed of any evidence against them?

As a suspect, one probably has no such rights, whereas once charged with  a crime, this information would be available
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Re: McCanns demand Leicestershire Police open their Maddie files.
« Reply #31 on: April 12, 2015, 01:42:46 PM »
So were the Leics police files crammed with evidence against the McCanns does anyone know?  Presumably not as, having conducted the review of the information, the Met announced they were treating the case as one of stranger abduction.... &%+((£

Offline Carana

Re: McCanns demand Leicestershire Police open their Maddie files.
« Reply #32 on: April 12, 2015, 01:43:36 PM »
I can't think of any reason why the parents would need a disclosure order in May 2007. Two police forces were co-operating in the investigation and it seems very early days to decide to distrust them and start your own enquiries.

The International Family Law Group was apparently acting on their behalf. If this group of lawyers had experience, or knowledge of, even getting kids back from parental abductions involving foreign jurisdictions, then a broad submission for extra powers makes sense to me.


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Re: McCanns demand Leicestershire Police open their Maddie files.
« Reply #33 on: April 12, 2015, 01:43:52 PM »
As a suspect, one probably has no such rights, whereas once charged with  a crime, this information would be available
And how would having access to the files as suspects help prevent them possibly being charged in the future, would you say?

Offline jassi

Re: McCanns demand Leicestershire Police open their Maddie files.
« Reply #34 on: April 12, 2015, 01:46:41 PM »
And how would having access to the files as suspects help prevent them possibly being charged in the future, would you say?

I didn't suggest it would, but it would appear that  suspects don't have the right to see evidence before they are charged.
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Re: McCanns demand Leicestershire Police open their Maddie files.
« Reply #35 on: April 12, 2015, 01:53:36 PM »
I imagine they were viewed as trivial as they provided little that they didn't already know.
Is there anything in the public domain to indicate who did provide information under this order?

Not that I can find.
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Offline Carana

Re: McCanns demand Leicestershire Police open their Maddie files.
« Reply #36 on: April 12, 2015, 02:32:22 PM »
I didn't suggest it would, but it would appear that  suspects don't have the right to see evidence before they are charged.

Where did you get that idea from?
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Offline jassi

Re: McCanns demand Leicestershire Police open their Maddie files.
« Reply #37 on: April 12, 2015, 02:35:59 PM »
Its how the system works - suspects are questioned, not provided with evidence - at least in UK.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: McCanns demand Leicestershire Police open their Maddie files.
« Reply #38 on: April 12, 2015, 02:36:15 PM »
So were the Leics police files crammed with evidence against the McCanns does anyone know?  Presumably not as, having conducted the review of the information, the Met announced they were treating the case as one of stranger abduction.... &%+((£

That was their remit. They were looking for evidence of abduction, nothing else.
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Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #39 on: April 12, 2015, 02:37:53 PM »
That was their remit. They were looking for evidence of abduction, nothing else.

because they had ruled out the parents...that's all that was left

Offline G-Unit

Re: McCanns demand Leicestershire Police open their Maddie files.
« Reply #40 on: April 12, 2015, 02:38:59 PM »
Its how the system works - suspects are questioned, not provided with evidence - at least in UK.

Correct. evidence is given to the suspect's legal representatives after they are charged, not before, for obvious reasons.
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« Reply #41 on: April 12, 2015, 02:40:48 PM »
because they had ruled out the parents...that's all that was left

Their remit didn't require them to rule out the parents. The remit had already done that before they started doing anything.
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Offline Carana

Re: McCanns demand Leicestershire Police open their Maddie files.
« Reply #42 on: April 12, 2015, 02:42:14 PM »
Its how the system works - suspects are questioned, not provided with evidence - at least in UK.

They weren't made arguidos in the UK.

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Re: McCanns demand Leicestershire Police open their Maddie files.
« Reply #43 on: April 12, 2015, 02:42:55 PM »
Their remit didn't require them to rule out the parents. The remit had already done that before they started doing anything.

Indeed.

It would seem they were clearly directed not to look at the parents.

Offline Carana

Re: McCanns demand Leicestershire Police open their Maddie files.
« Reply #44 on: April 12, 2015, 02:45:03 PM »
Correct. evidence is given to the suspect's legal representatives after they are charged, not before, for obvious reasons.

In which country?