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Alfred R Jones

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Re: McCanns demand Leicestershire Police open their Maddie files.
« Reply #60 on: April 12, 2015, 03:45:20 PM »
Why do you ask?
Because you seem to be suggesting that the police would investigate this case only looking at it from one angle, and no other.  So, either you think they are stupid, or that there is some shadowy conspiracy afoot preventing them doing their jobs properly.  Which is it?

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Re: McCanns demand Leicestershire Police open their Maddie files.
« Reply #61 on: April 12, 2015, 04:33:21 PM »
Who instructs the Met who it should and shouldn't investigate?

The head of the Metropolitan Police, Sir Paul Stephenson agreed to the review at Teresa May's request so long as the cost didn't come from the Met's budget as far as I can see. I have no idea why the remit was restricted, but it seems to have been, otherwise why mention the abduction;

The investigative review is intended to collate, record and analyse what has gone before. 

It is to examine the case and seek to determine, (as if the abduction occurred in the UK) what additional, new investigative approaches we would take and which can assist the Portuguese authorities in progressing the matter. Whilst ordinarily a review has no investigative remit whatsoever- the scale and extent of this enquiry cannot permit for such an approach. It will take too long to progress to any “action stage” if activity is given wholly and solely to a review process.

The ‘investigative review’ will be conducted with transparency, openness and thoroughness.
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Alfred R Jones

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« Reply #62 on: April 12, 2015, 04:35:09 PM »
The head of the Metropolitan Police, Sir Paul Stephenson agreed to the review at Teresa May's request so long as the cost didn't come from the Met's budget as far as I can see. I have no idea why the remit was restricted, but it seems to have been, otherwise why mention the abduction;

The investigative review is intended to collate, record and analyse what has gone before. 

It is to examine the case and seek to determine, (as if the abduction occurred in the UK) what additional, new investigative approaches we would take and which can assist the Portuguese authorities in progressing the matter. Whilst ordinarily a review has no investigative remit whatsoever- the scale and extent of this enquiry cannot permit for such an approach. It will take too long to progress to any “action stage” if activity is given wholly and solely to a review process.

The ‘investigative review’ will be conducted with transparency, openness and thoroughness.
So you believe the McCanns are being protected in some way, and that there is no likelihood whatsoever that the Met's investigation will conclude that they dunnit then?

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Re: McCanns demand Leicestershire Police open their Maddie files.
« Reply #63 on: April 12, 2015, 04:39:04 PM »
So you believe the McCanns are being protected in some way, and that there is no likelihood whatsoever that the Met's investigation will conclude that they dunnit then?


None whatsoever.
The interesting question is whether SY will attempt to exonerate them from any responsibility for her disappearance.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

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Re: McCanns demand Leicestershire Police open their Maddie files.
« Reply #64 on: April 12, 2015, 04:45:48 PM »
So you believe the McCanns are being protected in some way, and that there is no likelihood whatsoever that the Met's investigation will conclude that they dunnit then?

I don't think protection comes into it. If the Met are following their remit then they can't decide the parents done it because why would they abduct their own child? If their remit has changed they haven't shared it with us, despite the transparent and open nature of their work. They also have to deal with the lead force, which is and always has been the PJ.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: McCanns demand Leicestershire Police open their Maddie files.
« Reply #65 on: April 12, 2015, 05:03:15 PM »
I don't think protection comes into it. If the Met are following their remit then they can't decide the parents done it because why would they abduct their own child? If their remit has changed they haven't shared it with us, despite the transparent and open nature of their work. They also have to deal with the lead force, which is and always has been the PJ.
You've told us that the Met have been instructed to ONLY investigate an abduction but have been somewhat less forth-coming on who instructed them to do this and why.  Are there any other reasons you can think of which don't involve protecting the McCanns that might lead this shadowy "high-up" to issue this order to the Met?

Lyall

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Re: McCanns demand Leicestershire Police open their Maddie files.
« Reply #66 on: April 12, 2015, 05:36:00 PM »
You've told us that the Met have been instructed to ONLY investigate an abduction but have been somewhat less forth-coming on who instructed them to do this and why.  Are there any other reasons you can think of which don't involve protecting the McCanns that might lead this shadowy "high-up" to issue this order to the Met?

Lawyers 8(0(*

Alfred R Jones

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Lyall

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Re: McCanns demand Leicestershire Police open their Maddie files.
« Reply #68 on: April 12, 2015, 06:26:21 PM »
Please explain.

We have discussed it many times. The McCanns declared themselves cleared in 2008 and everyone involved since then has stuck to that line, including PM, Home Secretary, and British police.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: McCanns demand Leicestershire Police open their Maddie files.
« Reply #69 on: April 12, 2015, 06:30:54 PM »
We have discussed it many times. The McCanns declared themselves cleared in 2008 and everyone involved since then has stuck to that line, including PM, Home Secretary, and British police.
Yes but why would the McCanns have that sort of hold over the establishment? Are you actually suggesting that the PM, Home Sec and British police are afraid of the McCanns' lawyers? @)(++(*

Lyall

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Re: McCanns demand Leicestershire Police open their Maddie files.
« Reply #70 on: April 12, 2015, 06:36:16 PM »
Yes but why would the McCanns have that sort of hold over the establishment? Are you actually suggesting that the PM, Home Sec and British police are afraid of the McCanns' lawyers? @)(++(*

No, I'm sure the PM and Home Secretary believe the same as you do. They wouldn't dream of ever using any other words - but Redwood I'm very sure was careful with his.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: McCanns demand Leicestershire Police open their Maddie files.
« Reply #71 on: April 12, 2015, 06:39:37 PM »
No, I'm sure the PM and Home Secretary believe the same as you do. They wouldn't dream of ever using any other words - but Redwood I'm very sure was careful with his.
We were discussing the assumption by G-Unit that the Met had been instructed to treat the disappearance as an abduction, not Redwood being careful with his words.  Now, once again, can you please give me a good reason (apart from protecting the McCanns) why the Met were instructed to do this and by whom?

Lyall

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Re: McCanns demand Leicestershire Police open their Maddie files.
« Reply #72 on: April 12, 2015, 06:53:39 PM »
We were discussing the assumption by G-Unit that the Met had been instructed to treat the disappearance as an abduction, not Redwood being careful with his words.  Now, once again, can you please give me a good reason (apart from protecting the McCanns) why the Met were instructed to do this and by whom?

Just gave you one: the PM's faith in them.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: McCanns demand Leicestershire Police open their Maddie files.
« Reply #73 on: April 12, 2015, 06:56:35 PM »
Just gave you one: the PM's faith in them.
Er.....come again?  The PM has faith in the McCanns, so has instructed the Met not investigate the parents, and the Met have gone along with this but it's not about protecting the McCanns....? &%+((£

Wacky! ?>)()<

Lyall

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Re: McCanns demand Leicestershire Police open their Maddie files.
« Reply #74 on: April 12, 2015, 07:09:29 PM »
Er.....come again?  The PM has faith in the McCanns, so has instructed the Met not investigate the parents, and the Met have gone along with this but it's not about protecting the McCanns....? &%+((£

Wacky! ?>)()<

It was a review, not an investigation. No such 'instruction' would have been needed.