McCanns demand Leicestershire Police open their Maddie files.

[stephen25000]

Exactly

My thoughts too, with the inexperienced group being directed by some senior person within the organised child trafficking group, probably from afar.



Also each stage of the abduction and actual removal of Madeleine compartmentalized so that no lower section knows who the other sections people are .... and what happened next.



Very clever,



One of their mottos is "Hidden in Plain Sight" IIRC

Sadie, where has it been proved it was abduction ?

P.S. Beliefs do not count.

[sadie]

Sadie, where has it been proved it was abduction ?

P.S. Beliefs do not count.

My thoughts Stephen [with dozens of pointers, most of which I unfortunately cannot share].

You write your thoughts on a daily basis.

One rule for you and your ilk ... and another for me?

Is that what you want?





Now I must go

[jassi]

Sadie, where has it been proved it was abduction ?

P.S. Beliefs do not count.

In a parallel  universe far, far away. 

[stephen25000]

My thoughts Stephen [with dozens of pointers, most of which I unfortunately cannot share].

You write your thoughts on a daily basis.

One rule for you and your ilk ... and another for me?

Is that what you want?







Now I must go

No sadie, pointers as you call them, are clearly your interpretations.

They are not facts.

I prefer facts.

[stephen25000]

In a parallel  universe far, far away. 

Perchance,

A long time ago ......................

[sadie]

No sadie, pointers as you call them, are clearly your interpretations.

They are not facts.

I prefer facts.

The majority of my pointers are facts ... and a few are carefully weighed up interpretations

They are for *after* the abduction.  What happened afterwards.

But I cannot share them, they are sub judice.  Sorry.


I am also sorry if your mind is too closed to accept that a persons findings [facts] and reasonings, whilst differing from yours, could be absolutely valid.

You are thinking in a box Stephen.


Try opening your mind. 

[slartibartfast]

The majority of my pointers are facts ... and a few are carefully weighed up interpretations

They are for *after* the abduction.  What happened afterwards.

But I cannot share them, they are sub judice.  Sorry.


I am also sorry if your mind is too closed to accept that a persons findings [facts] and reasonings, whilst differing from yours, could be absolutely valid.

You are thinking in a box Stephen.


Try opening your mind.

The sub judice rule regulates the publication of matters which are under consideration by the court. Matters are considered to be sub judice (Latin for 'under judgment') once legal proceedings become active.
Criminal proceedings are deemed active once a person is arrested, a warrant for arrest has been issued, a summons has been issued or a person has been charged and remain active until conviction. Civil proceedings become active, in England, when the hearing date for the trial is arranged and, in Scotland, when the parties' pleadings have been finalised and the record is closed.

So who has been arrested?

[stephen25000]

The majority of my pointers are facts ... and a few are carefully weighed up interpretations

They are for *after* the abduction.  What happened afterwards.

But I cannot share them, they are sub judice.  Sorry.


I am also sorry if your mind is too closed to accept that a persons findings [facts] and reasonings, whilst differing from yours, could be absolutely valid.

You are thinking in a box Stephen.


Try opening your mind.

I need to see real evidence of abduction.

Prove me wrong.

As to boxes Sadie, yours will perennially be planted in the soil of abduction.

[sadie]

I need to see real evidence of abduction.

Prove me wrong.

As to boxes Sadie, yours will perennially be planted in the soil of abduction.

Because I have unearthed so many pointers to where she went afterwards

[stephen25000]

Because I have unearthed so many pointers to where she went afterwards

I am afraid pointers have no use.

You  need unadulterated evidence.

[sadie]

I am afraid pointers have no use.

You  need unadulterated evidence.

Well there is evidence that SY have used my facts and my pointers ... and that is as far as I can go.


So they must have thought that they were OK


But disbelieve and knock all you like Stephen. 


Sorry, but in the great scheme of things you dont matter really, SY do.  £4%4%

[stephen25000]

Well there is evidence that SY have used my facts and my pointers ... and that is as far as I can go.


So they must have thought that they were OK


But disbelieve and knock all you like Stephen. 


Sorry, but in the great scheme of things you dont matter really, SY do.  £4%4%

and SY have found nothing of any value whatsoever.

NEXT

[G-Unit]

The most difficult thing for us has been that we know the British police considered aspects of the investigation to be substandard and we honestly don’t think they believed we were involved in Madeleine’s disappearance. Comments made to us privately by several officers (including the most senior ones) confirmed this. (Madeleine)

It looks like some British policemen were behaving inappropriately to me. Perhaps that's what led the McCanns to believe that Leicester Police would be happy to hand over to them all the evidence they held? It also explains their fury when the request was denied and when it was pointed out in court that they were still arguidos.

[sadie]

It looks like some British policemen were behaving inappropriately to me. Perhaps that's what led the McCanns to believe that Leicester Police would be happy to hand over to them all the evidence they held? It also explains their fury when the request was denied and when it was pointed out in court that they were still arguidos.

They were NOT arguidos when they requested them.  That came weeks later.

PLease try not to obfuscate G-Unit

[Miss Taken Identity]

It looks like some British policemen were behaving inappropriately to me. Perhaps that's what led the McCanns to believe that Leicester Police would be happy to hand over to them all the evidence they held? It also explains their fury when the request was denied and when it was pointed out in court that they were still arguidos.

Did she call them F....T..rs though?  she does have a temper as is evident.