The Quality of Witnesses in the Case.

[Mr Gray]

Read again.

Now which other Fiona was involved in the case ?

Was it Fiona Nobody ?

I never said I knew Fiona payne as you have claimed..you made an assumption

[DCI]

Davel, you did claim to know Fiona Payne  you replied  'yes'...

It has been descided that witnesses wo saw anything wich did not tie in with Team McCANNS version are to be discredited and discounted... So where were we.. ahh high winds bellowing curtains and whooshing sounds...

Whooshing like this, when Rebelo opened window

[faithlilly]

You are allowing your imagination to run rampant.

From the fact that Martin Smith agreed (after initial refusal) to produce an e-fit, we can reasonably infer that he has long since recanted of the view that the Smiths all saw Gerry that evening (a view, incidentally, never shared by any of his children).

Yvonne Martin was dismissed by PJ Inspector Ferraria

Mr Gaspar's statement runs much truer than his wife's.
 
And Gerry was verified by independent witnesses as at the Tapas Restaurant at the time of the Smith sighting.

Firstly Martin Smith agreed with his claim to be 80% sure it was Gerry.

Yvonne Smith's evidence wasn't dismissed. It was simply thought nothing useful could be gleaned from it which would to the investigation forward.

If you were not there how can you have any idea which one of the Gaspar's starement is the most accurate ?

And there is not one independent witness starement that puts Gerry inthe tapas bar just before Kate's alert.

Over to you.

[Mr Gray]

Firstly Martin Smith agreed with his claim to be 80% sure it was Gerry.

Yvonne Smith's evidence wasn't dismissed. It was simply thought nothing useful could be gleaned from it which would to the investigation forward.

If you were not there how can you have any idea which one of the Gaspar's starement is the most accurate ?

And there is not one independent witness starement that puts Gerry inthe tapas bar just before Kate's alert.

Over to you.

You are simply throwing mud hoping some of it sticks..a dirty tactic...
With access to all this evidence...SY declare McCanns not suspects...that's pretty clear

[stephen25000]

I never said I knew Fiona payne as you have claimed..you made an assumption

Which other Fiona has been involved in this case  ?

[stephen25000]

You are simply throwing mud hoping some of it sticks..a dirty tactic...
With access to all this evidence...SY declare McCanns not suspects...that's pretty clear

All SY has, or so they claim, is a belief in abduction.

Nothing else.

[Mr Gray]

Which other Fiona has been involved in this case  ?

 

[Lace]

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I am tempted to say you couldn't make it up....but someone just did!!. Picture the idylic setting. no one is out dining and drinking at all, the family are happlily in bed...all nice and snug. Daddy was there to see to his distressed child  it was not maddie who cried according to Lace- WHO WAS NOT THERE. Or was lace there? Hmmm

I hear tell Hitler was a real fun merchant- with a snazzy dress sense and a lover of Haggis...who knew nothing about kiling jews and other innocents.. Well I thought I would give re writing history a go...seems to be the thing on here.

Yes!..bewildering I know.

If you read my post properly,   I said in my opinion,   it was Amelie who Mrs. Fenn heard first of all,   who woke Sean,  then Madeleine who called 'Daddy'     Mrs. Fenn did not say she heard MADELEINE crying,  she said she heard a child that wasn't a baby.   So it is YOU who is making it up in saying that Mrs. Fenn said she heard Madeleine she didn't !!

I also said it was my opinion that Mrs. Fenn was out about the time,    Kate McCann said Madeleine came to their room about 12 ish,   saying that Amelie had woken her and Sean,   she asked to stay in their bedroom,  by the look of it both Amelie and Sean had gone back to sleep by then.   So DADDY WAS THERE!!

[G-Unit]

Perhaps that's another instance in which cctv might have been useful.

Are you saying that all those witnesses were wrong then? I quoted the one whose job it was to check everyone who breakfasted at the restaurant and to make sure those who should pay did pay. To do that she checked names, she didn't just assume.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Whooshing like this, when Rebelo opened window

Oh it was the net curtains that were 'whooshing'...OK I tried that at home. Not a sound. no whooshing.

[stephen25000]

You need help.

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[Benice]

What about dossiers  you have time for those people?...

and vilifying all witnesses shows a serious lack of balance in reviewing events.

Why the need for such wild exaggeration?  Where have I vilified ALL witnesses? 

[ferryman]

Firstly Martin Smith agreed with his claim to be 80% sure it was Gerry.

Yvonne Martin's evidence wasn't dismissed. It was simply thought nothing useful could be gleaned from it which would to the investigation forward.

If you were not there how can you have any idea which one of the Gaspar's starement is the most accurate ?

And there is not one independent witness starement that puts Gerry inthe tapas bar just before Kate's alert.

Over to you.

1. There is no accounting for your misinterpretation of Ferria's dismissal of YM's statement.

2. There are certain details of Mrs G's statement as we read it that are incongruous and contradictory (and no, I shan't go into details) and the statement has Mrs G giving reign to free imagination with no factually based observation to substantiate which she (apparently?!) imagined.

3.  We have discussed your ignorance of what an independent witness is over and over.  I don't think you will ever get it.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Why the need for such wild exaggeration?  Where have I vilified ALL witnesses?

Only the dossier question was aimed at you.. do you dislike those people as you do anonymous letter writers?

The second part was in keeping with the topic not aimed at you specifically.

[Montclair]

Oh it was the net curtains that were 'whooshing'...OK I tried that at home. Not a sound. no whooshing.

Furthermore, there were heavy floor length blue curtains in front of the white net ones.