The Smithman e-fits - are the McCanns less than happy with them?

[G-Unit]

Take more water with it Eleanor.

[Admin]

I don't think there can be much doubt that the e-fits were compiled with the help of Martin Smith and his family.
 
DCI Redwood made such a big deal about the sighting by this Irish family on BBC Crimiewatch referring to it as an revelation moment if I recall correctly.

"A family from Ireland got such a good look at the man that they were able to produce two e-fit images."



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/10378303/Madeleine-McCann-New-reconstruction-reveals-abduction-was-later-than-previously-thought.html

This was also borne out by Kevin Halligen of Oakley International who stated that the e-Fits were compiled with the help of the Smith family.

[Alfred R Jones]

And yet they all claimed not to have got a good look at his face or to be able to recognise him again. 

[mercury]

Then could Redwood and SY be deemed remiss if they had reviewed the files and read where the Smiths said they wouldn't recognise him but plastered the efits on the TV anyway? Either they must have had faith in their returning memory later or thought what the heck anyway? or somethng else entirely... What else could it be?
?Any ideas?

[pathfinder73]

Then could Redwood and SY be deemed remiss if they had reviewed the files and read where the Smiths said they wouldn't recognise him but plastered the efits on the TV anyway? Either they must have had faith in their returning memory later or thought what the heck anyway? or somethng else entirely... What else could it be?
?Any ideas?

HE is the man to ask. He was the one who got the Smiths to do the efits.

[mercury]

Henri Exton is the man to ask. He was the one who got the Smiths to do the efits.

Yes indeed, the gagged man!

[lordpookles]

So how were the efits done if they claim they would not be able to recognize the man? I assume they try to create an efit with the any features the witness can remember and fill in the gaps...

[Brietta]

So how were the efits done if they claim they would not be able to recognize the man? I assume they try to create an efit with the any features the witness can remember and fill in the gaps...

If they said they couldn't recognise facial features at their first interviews how on earth would they be able to produce the likenesses we have seen many months after the event?

[lordpookles]

True. Of course I hope they are a good likeness, but as you say probably can't expect too much... the police must put some value in them - every now and then if a likeness is vague they must be still effective enough to jog someone's memory. What is inexplicable to me is there was no crimewatch programme in Portugal where they may have been most effective.

[mercury]

True. Of course I hope they are a good likeness, but as you say probably can't expect too much... the police must put some value in them - every now and then if a likeness is vague they must be still effective enough to job someone's memory. What is inexplicable to me is there was no crimewatch programme in Portugal where they may have been most effective.

PT wanted to air/repeat the programme, BBC told them they couldn't! how sad is THAT? I can dig out the details if you want, but the essence is the POrtuguese were refused

One source at hand, Portugal news, there are others

http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/crimewatch-aired-in-uk-ireland-netherlands-germany-but-why-not-portugal/29659

A related question is why the Mccanns own website dont have these efits in their site in the Portuguese version

[misty]

True. Of course I hope they are a good likeness, but as you say probably can't expect too much... the police must put some value in them - every now and then if a likeness is vague they must be still effective enough to jog someone's memory. What is inexplicable to me is there was no crimewatch programme in Portugal where they may have been most effective.

Perhaps it was a case of any names for Smithman being suggested to the Portuguese TV call-handlers may have found their way into the hands of the unscrupulous Portuguese press - thus destroying any chance of following the trail.

[pegasus]

This disappearance happened in a portuguese speaking country.
So let's look at how the official TFM site backed by millions of pounds of donations focuses on smithman on its portuguese pages.
 
Main page - no smithman efits and no mention of him
http://findmadeleine.com/pt/home.html

"Have you seen these people?" page - - no smithman efits and no mention of him
http://findmadeleine.com/pt/campaigns/unidentified_people.html

[misty]

This disappearance happened in a portuguese speaking country.
So let's look at how the official TFM site backed by millions of pounds of donations focuses on smithman on its portuguese pages.
 
Main page - no smithman efits and no mention of him
http://findmadeleine.com/pt/home.html

"Have you seen these people?" page - - no smithman efits and no mention of him
http://findmadeleine.com/pt/campaigns/unidentified_people.html

No Smithman there because there was no Smithman there. My opinion only.

[pegasus]

No Smithman there because there was no Smithman there. My opinion only.

But SY said their main attention has switched to smithman.
You would expect the TFM portuguese pages to at least mention that wouldn't you?

Is there any mention whatsoever of smithman anywhere on the official TFM site in portuguese language?

[misty]

But SY said their main attention has switched to smithman.
You would expect the TFM portuguese pages to at least mention that wouldn't you?

Is there any mention whatsoever of smithman anywhere on the official TFM site in portuguese language?

SY's main attention may well have shifted to Smithman - but not necessarily for the purpose of putting a name to the face.
You mean the OFM pages in Portuguese, don't you? TFM is not the official site.