The Tapas Note.

[G-Unit]

I would like to explore the details around this note.  I know very little about it.  Where do we start?

The note is referred to by Amaral in his book, then by Kate in hers. Their accounts are slightly different.

Maddie by Amaral

Tuesday 1st May

A restaurant employee notes on the reception register that certain members of the group get up in turn to go and make sure they* are OK.

* the children.

From “Madeleine” by Kate McCann:
 
It wasn’t until a year later, when I was combing through the Portuguese police files, that I discovered that the note requesting our block booking was written in a staff message book, which sat on a desk at the pool reception for most of the day. This book was by definition accessible to all staff and, albeit unintentionally, probably to guests and visitors, too. To my horror, I saw that, no doubt in all innocence and simply to explain why she was bending the rules a bit, the receptionist had added the reason for our request: we wanted to eat close to our apartments as we were leaving our young children alone there and checking on them intermittently.

[Robittybob1]

What does this mean "A restaurant employee notes on the reception register that certain members of the group get up in turn to go and make sure they* are OK"?   was someone working out the pattern of their checks?  I think if that is being monitored was this on instruction from a manager and is this usual to record this information.

[Robittybob1]

Concalo seems to clearly put this event onto the Tuesday "Tuesday May 1st http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/t8375-chapter-2-madeleine-beth-mccann-s-holiday

In the Algarve, May 1st is celebrated by organising family picnics; the first snails are tasted and, above all, maios are displayed - life-sized rag dolls stuffed with straw - on the sides of the roads, in windows or on the doorsteps of the houses. They represent scenes from daily life or from social satire. This popular, one hundred-year-old tradition is carried on and joyously enlivens these first days of spring.

It's not known if Madeleine could see the maios that day. Between 10 and 11am, she plays mini-tennis with the children from the day centre. In the afternoon, from 1.30, her parents take her to the beach with her brother and sister, but they only stay there for twenty minutes, because the sky clouds over and the temperature falls. She eats an ice cream on a terrace. Close by, a guitarist, who looks like a tramp, is playing Latino music and collecting money. From there, Madeleine and the twins are taken directly to the day centre. Tennis court number 1 is booked by the McCanns for 2.30 to 3.30. At around 3.30, the play leaders take the children to the beach. They proceed in single file, each holding onto a long rod in the shape of a serpent, Sammy Snake. They play on the sand until 4.30 and participate in various games that are suggested to them.

During the parents' dinner, the children again sleep alone. A restaurant employee notes on the reception register that certain members of the group get up in turn to go and make sure they are OK.

For an hour and a quarter, between 10.30 and 11.45pm, in the apartment where she is in the company of her brother and her sister, Madeleine does not stop crying and calling out for her father. She does not calm down until after her parents return."

[G-Unit]

What does this mean "A restaurant employee notes on the reception register that certain members of the group get up in turn to go and make sure they* are OK"?   was someone working out the pattern of their checks?

Why would you suggest that? If someone was observing them with malicious intent why would they write their observations in a book which all could see?

According to the group Rachael booked a meal at the Tapas on Sunday for that evening. She then managed a block booking on Monday for Monday-Thursday.

According to the receptionist, a tall thin man with a child (who she says is Madeleine) made the booking on Sunday for the whole group for the entire week. During her interview she handed over a book containing the Tapas reservations. There's nothing written there, so was there another book?
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LUISA_COUTINHO.htm

There was a trainee receptionist also working at the Tapas reception from Tuesday to Thursday. She doesn't mention childcare, notes or books.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ELISA.htm

[sadie]

Concalo seems to clearly put this event onto the Tuesday "Tuesday May 1st http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/t8375-chapter-2-madeleine-beth-mccann-s-holiday

In the Algarve, May 1st is celebrated by organising family picnics; the first snails are tasted and, above all, maios are displayed - life-sized rag dolls stuffed with straw - on the sides of the roads, in windows or on the doorsteps of the houses. They represent scenes from daily life or from social satire. This popular, one hundred-year-old tradition is carried on and joyously enlivens these first days of spring.

It's not known if Madeleine could see the maios that day. Between 10 and 11am, she plays mini-tennis with the children from the day centre. In the afternoon, from 1.30, her parents take her to the beach with her brother and sister, but they only stay there for twenty minutes, because the sky clouds over and the temperature falls. She eats an ice cream on a terrace. Close by, a guitarist, who looks like a tramp, is playing Latino music and collecting money. From there, Madeleine and the twins are taken directly to the day centre. Tennis court number 1 is booked by the McCanns for 2.30 to 3.30. At around 3.30, the play leaders take the children to the beach. They proceed in single file, each holding onto a long rod in the shape of a serpent, Sammy Snake. They play on the sand until 4.30 and participate in various games that are suggested to them.

During the parents' dinner, the children again sleep alone. A restaurant employee notes on the reception register that certain members of the group get up in turn to go and make sure they are OK.

For an hour and a quarter, between 10.30 and 11.45pm, in the apartment where she is in the company of her brother and her sister, Madeleine does not stop crying and calling out for her father. She does not calm down until after her parents return."

What a HUGE assumption Amaral is making there.   Mrs Fenn heard a child crying  according to her statement.  She thought that the child was not a baby.  She had potentially a number of children adjoining her flat.

The Oldfields, the Paynes and the Mccann three ... ? and possibly others in the flat above that we dont know.about.?


Madeleine had a loud voice.  Had she been crying then, IMO, all three little ones would have been crying.   
So there would have been three voices crying.  Mrs Fenn only mentions one.


In fact had Madeleine been so upset, my bet is that she would have got out of bed and woken the twins up with "Where are Mummy and Daddy; they're not here"

~~~~~~~~~


Ammended

[G-Unit]

Concalo seems to clearly put this event onto the Tuesday "Tuesday May 1st http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/t8375-chapter-2-madeleine-beth-mccann-s-holiday

In the Algarve, May 1st is celebrated by organising family picnics; the first snails are tasted and, above all, maios are displayed - life-sized rag dolls stuffed with straw - on the sides of the roads, in windows or on the doorsteps of the houses. They represent scenes from daily life or from social satire. This popular, one hundred-year-old tradition is carried on and joyously enlivens these first days of spring.

It's not known if Madeleine could see the maios that day. Between 10 and 11am, she plays mini-tennis with the children from the day centre. In the afternoon, from 1.30, her parents take her to the beach with her brother and sister, but they only stay there for twenty minutes, because the sky clouds over and the temperature falls. She eats an ice cream on a terrace. Close by, a guitarist, who looks like a tramp, is playing Latino music and collecting money. From there, Madeleine and the twins are taken directly to the day centre. Tennis court number 1 is booked by the McCanns for 2.30 to 3.30. At around 3.30, the play leaders take the children to the beach. They proceed in single file, each holding onto a long rod in the shape of a serpent, Sammy Snake. They play on the sand until 4.30 and participate in various games that are suggested to them.

During the parents' dinner, the children again sleep alone. A restaurant employee notes on the reception register that certain members of the group get up in turn to go and make sure they are OK.

For an hour and a quarter, between 10.30 and 11.45pm, in the apartment where she is in the company of her brother and her sister, Madeleine does not stop crying and calling out for her father. She does not calm down until after her parents return."

Who worked on Tuesday 1st?

Tiago      This seems to have been Tiago Barreiros, the Tapas supervisor
Cebola     
T Freitas  Tiago Freitas, barman.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TAPAS_BOOKING.htm

If anyone was likely to be writing information down I would think it would be a supervisor. I can't find any statement by Cebola but I think he might be RICARDO ALEXANDRE DA LUZ OLIVEIRA. Tiago Freitas doesn't say much of interest.

[G-Unit]

What a HUGE assumption Amaral is making there.   Mrs Fenn heard a child crying  according to her statement.  She thought that the child was not a baby.  She had potentially a number of children adjoining her flat.

The Oldfields, the Paynes and the Mccann three ... ? and possibly others in the flat above that we dont know.about.?


Madeleine had a loud voice.  Had she been crying then, IMO, all three little ones would have been crying.   
So there would have been three voices crying.  Mrs Fenn only mentions one.


In fact had Madeleine been so upset, my bet is that she would have got out of bed and woken the twins up with "Where are Mummy and Daddy; they're not here"

~~~~~~~~~



On top of this we have Mrs Fenns words that she had not spoken to the PJ.  So how did they get her statement?  We have all witnessed Mrs Fenn saying that she did not speak to the Police . so we know that is a fact


-  I cant shift the memory that in the Rachel Charles /Michael Cook case a simple gardner had given a statement, which once it went thru Court and helped convict Michael, he rapidly rescinded.

-  Additionally, in this case, two PJ Officers were supposed to assure the court that they heard Michael Cook admit that he killed Racheal.   The one officer, brave man, refused to do so.


-  I cant shift the memory that in the Joana Cipriano case, Leonor Ciprianos partner Leandro Silva gave written evidence against Leonor which helped convict Leonor.  But once it had gone thru Court he rapidly rescinded this evidence.   

-  He, of course, allegedly was tortured by Amaral and required hospital treatment.   Was the torture to coerce him into signing a false witness statement?




So the only two other cases that we know about involving Amaral, each had a fairly simple peasant type witness who rescinded their statement as soon as they were able


-  It keeps bugging me that Mrs Fenn, an old lady on her own in Portugal, says that she didn't speak to the PJ, yet there is a witness statement from her, which can be twisted into an indictment against The Mccanns.


Did she speak to the Police, or did she not ?


What i am actually asking is, "How did that statement come about, if Mrs Fenn didn't speak to the Police?"

I have a video in which Mrs Fenn denies speaking to journalists. When did she deny speaking to the PJ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP30PRieuU4

[misty]

I have a video in which Mrs Fenn denies speaking to journalists. When did she deny speaking to the PJ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP30PRieuU4

Mrs Fenn hadn't made her statement to the police at the time that video was recorded. Who told the journalists what she was going to say & why was her revelation online in a poster's comment on 24/7/2007?

[sadie]

Ah, in that case I will ammend my post

Thank you misty

[Eleanor]

Page One, and already Off Topic.  This is not good.

[G-Unit]

Mrs Fenn hadn't made her statement to the police at the time that video was recorded. Who told the journalists what she was going to say & why was her revelation online in a poster's comment on 24/7/2007?

I thought the date of the video was 22nd August 2007, two days after Mrs Fenn's statement? That's the date given for the SIC broadcast in the transcript on the page referenced at the end of my post. Do you know when she denied speaking to the PJ?

According to 'a friend' she spoke to the British police first. Perhaps the very knowledgeable 'friend' also spoke to UK journalists?

Meanwhile Portuguese cops were again under fire. The woman living in the apartment above the McCanns claimed she had not been spoken to by police until the British team arrived two weeks ago.

Expat Pamela Fenn, 73, told them she disturbed a burglar at her apartment about three weeks before Maddie vanished. She is now to give a formal statement to Portuguese officers.

A friend said: "She was surprised that neither the police nor the McCanns had approached her before."
The Sun 18 Aug 2007

The information only resurfaced after British police reviewed the case two weeks ago. Mrs Fenn will now be formally interviewed for the first time on Monday.
Daily Mirror 18th August 2007

All found at;
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id331.htm

[G-Unit]

Page One, and already Off Topic.  This is not good.

It's a pain, isn't it? The trouble is people make an off topic post then others feel the need to answer the points they make. Perhaps a separate 'Mrs Fenn' thread could be taken off here?

[Eleanor]

Here we go again.  I will be deleting all future Off Topic Posts.

[Eleanor]

It's a pain, isn't it? The trouble is people make an off topic post then others feel the need to answer the points they make. Perhaps a separate 'Mrs Fenn' thread could be taken off here?

That is for John to decide as I can't do that.

We are all guilty of Off Topic Posts at some time or another, but this does have to be controlled.

You could start a Mrs Fenn Topic if you like, and I will Approve it if The Opening Post is pertinent.

[G-Unit]

I suggested earlier that Tiago Barreiros may have written about the checking. Perhaps he realised what was happening when he worked on Tuesday and thought it needed to be recorded? 

When the table was reserved, nothing was mentioned about checking on the children and the only concern was in accommodating the entire group.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TIAGO_BARREIROS.htm