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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Tapas Note.
« Reply #75 on: June 21, 2017, 03:59:28 PM »
Possibly because they may have been reported to the McCanns hotline rather than the police.
From memory they were reported but the Portuguese police took no action

Offline Brietta

Re: The Tapas Note.
« Reply #76 on: June 21, 2017, 05:14:07 PM »
It seems to be the thrust of many a supporters argument. I think it is safe  to say that any translation the McCanns paid is not materially different from the online files we have access to or we would have heard by now.

We most definitely would have heard if Kate McCann had put something into her book saying she read it in the files if that was not the case.  Have you any evidence that any such accusation has been levelled outwith the insinuating post on this forum.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: The Tapas Note.
« Reply #77 on: June 21, 2017, 06:38:33 PM »
Possibly because they may have been reported to the McCanns hotline rather than the police.

They were reported to the British police after Madeleine's disappearance, apparently.

So they might never have come to light if the parents of these children hadn’t been brave enough to come forward to the British police after Madeleine was taken and relive their nightmares. They did so in the belief that there could be a link between what had happened to their children and what had happened to her. [Madeleine]
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: The Tapas Note.
« Reply #78 on: June 21, 2017, 07:03:43 PM »
Kate McCann has stated very clearly the source of her information ... the Policia Judiciaria files.

There is nothing questionable about the content of the files in her possession. 

Nota bene any suggestion that the McCanns "received a different copy than everyone else" or any suggestion that "something which isn't there" has been quoted is unacceptable.
Why would that be unacceptable?  It is possible files were released to the McCanns that the general public didn't get.  I don't see why that is unacceptable or improbable.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: The Tapas Note.
« Reply #79 on: June 21, 2017, 07:06:24 PM »
It seems to be the thrust of many a supporters argument. I think it is safe  to say that any translation the McCanns paid is not materially different from the online files we have access to or we would have heard by now.
We are specifically talking about the note that was displayed at reception according to Kate.  How does she see it and we can't? It isn't a matter of translation but presence.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: The Tapas Note.
« Reply #80 on: June 21, 2017, 07:07:33 PM »
Possibly because they may have been reported to the McCanns hotline rather than the police.
That seems rather unlikely.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: The Tapas Note.
« Reply #81 on: June 21, 2017, 07:14:54 PM »
That seems rather unlikely.

Well I can't really see the police handing over evidence from a live investigation. The police fought against and succeeded in preventing the release of police information to the McCanns previously.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: The Tapas Note.
« Reply #82 on: June 21, 2017, 07:25:46 PM »
Well I can't really see the police handing over evidence from a live investigation. The police fought against and succeeded in preventing the release of police information to the McCanns previously.

Apart from;

trivial details that our family had passed on to the police in the first place [Madeleine]
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Offline Brietta

Re: The Tapas Note.
« Reply #83 on: June 21, 2017, 08:26:03 PM »
Why would that be unacceptable?  It is possible files were released to the McCanns that the general public didn't get.  I don't see why that is unacceptable or improbable.

You have misunderstood my post.  There can be no doubt that Kate and Gerry McCann have access to information not in the public domain.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: The Tapas Note.
« Reply #84 on: June 21, 2017, 09:12:47 PM »
You have misunderstood my post.  There can be no doubt that Kate and Gerry McCann have access to information not in the public domain.

Are you referring to information gathered by the Portuguese investigation?
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Offline Brietta

Re: The Tapas Note.
« Reply #85 on: June 22, 2017, 01:27:36 AM »
From memory they were reported but the Portuguese police took no action

There is no doubt whatsoever that the Policia Judicairia knew about the assaults at the time. They questioned Euclides Monteiro about them a year after Madeleine's disappearance.

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THE widow of the prime suspect in the Madeleine McCann abduction has revealed police arrested her late husband but NEVER interrogated him over the girl’s disappearance.

A year after Madeleine went missing Portuguese detectives hauled in but did not charge convicted burglar Euclides Monteiro over a spate of sex attacks in the Algarve.

Widow Luisa Rodrigues insists he was not asked about the missing three-year-old.

The revelation yesterday came seven years to the day after Madeleine disappeared.
It will raise fresh concern about the original Portuguese police investigation which led to her parents Gerry and Kate being made suspects.

British police heading a separate probe into Madeleine’s disappearance are trying to identify a serial sex attacker who may have struck at least 18 times in Algarve holiday resorts, starting in 2004.

They have described the intruder as “smelly and potbellied” wearing a burgundy top with a distinctive white circle on the back — but never pointed the finger at Monteiro.

Cape Verde-born dad-of-one Monteiro, who died in a 2009 tractor accident, worked at the Ocean Club holiday complex Madeleine vanished from on May 3, 2007.

Ms Rodrigues said: “Euclides was summonsed to the police station in Portimao, the same one heading the Madeleine McCann investigation, in 2008.

“He was told they were looking for a tall black man who had broken into country homes and sexually assaulted children inside. He didn’t commit a single crime after he left prison.
He denied any involvement in the indecent assaults. “Police did DNA tests at the time and ruled him out as a suspect and apologised for troubling him.
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-sunday-post-newcastle/20140504/283510793957256
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: The Tapas Note.
« Reply #86 on: June 22, 2017, 10:43:50 AM »
There is no doubt whatsoever that the Policia Judicairia knew about the assaults at the time. They questioned Euclides Monteiro about them a year after Madeleine's disappearance.

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THE widow of the prime suspect in the Madeleine McCann abduction has revealed police arrested her late husband but NEVER interrogated him over the girl’s disappearance.

A year after Madeleine went missing Portuguese detectives hauled in but did not charge convicted burglar Euclides Monteiro over a spate of sex attacks in the Algarve.

Widow Luisa Rodrigues insists he was not asked about the missing three-year-old.

The revelation yesterday came seven years to the day after Madeleine disappeared.
It will raise fresh concern about the original Portuguese police investigation which led to her parents Gerry and Kate being made suspects.

British police heading a separate probe into Madeleine’s disappearance are trying to identify a serial sex attacker who may have struck at least 18 times in Algarve holiday resorts, starting in 2004.

They have described the intruder as “smelly and potbellied” wearing a burgundy top with a distinctive white circle on the back — but never pointed the finger at Monteiro.

Cape Verde-born dad-of-one Monteiro, who died in a 2009 tractor accident, worked at the Ocean Club holiday complex Madeleine vanished from on May 3, 2007.

Ms Rodrigues said: “Euclides was summonsed to the police station in Portimao, the same one heading the Madeleine McCann investigation, in 2008.

“He was told they were looking for a tall black man who had broken into country homes and sexually assaulted children inside. He didn’t commit a single crime after he left prison.
He denied any involvement in the indecent assaults. “Police did DNA tests at the time and ruled him out as a suspect and apologised for troubling him.
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-sunday-post-newcastle/20140504/283510793957256

It rather begs the question "What was he arrested for then?"
So we have an article, in a provincial newspaper, telling of a smelly bin man, allusions to sexual assaults and a black man who bears no resemblance to smelly bin man. The black man is arrested for something, we are told, but we know not what. Whatever he was arrested for , we are told, he was not questioned about Madeleine McCann's disappearance. The article appears to be based on he said she said they said written in 2014?
There are days when I miss the poster Ichabodcrane. He /she would have had real fun with this.
It all rather smacks of :" 'ere John giss 5 column inches on Madeleine McCann there's some current some stuff in the Nationals you can crib from".
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Offline G-Unit

Re: The Tapas Note.
« Reply #87 on: June 22, 2017, 12:18:36 PM »
It rather begs the question "What was he arrested for then?"
So we have an article, in a provincial newspaper, telling of a smelly bin man, allusions to sexual assaults and a black man who bears no resemblance to smelly bin man. The black man is arrested for something, we are told, but we know not what. Whatever he was arrested for , we are told, he was not questioned about Madeleine McCann's disappearance. The article appears to be based on he said she said they said written in 2014?
There are days when I miss the poster Ichabodcrane. He /she would have had real fun with this.
It all rather smacks of :" 'ere John giss 5 column inches on Madeleine McCann there's some current some stuff in the Nationals you can crib from".

I don't think either of the men would have been hanging around the Tapas 'desk' trying to read a staff message book just in case it contained a note saying that a cute little blond girl was being left home alone every night either. Both men sound very noticeable.
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Offline sadie

Re: The Tapas Note.
« Reply #88 on: June 22, 2017, 12:40:23 PM »
I don't think either of the men would have been hanging around the Tapas 'desk' trying to read a staff message book just in case it contained a note saying that a cute little blond girl was being left home alone every night either. Both men sound very noticeable.

In response to your and Alices fascecious posts, of course it may have put the children at risk.

When there is a queue at any desk, or anyone is waiting, they tend to read anything that is on the walls or lieing around.

If the wrong person read it, that children were alone but being checked, then the danger is magnified.



It was very thoughtless, imo, that this note was left for others to see  BUT I can understand a young person maybe not realising the danger.  Was the recptionist who wrote it, a younger person or someone with life experience, who ought to have had more sense?

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Re: The Tapas Note.
« Reply #89 on: June 22, 2017, 12:47:53 PM »
In response to your and Alices fascecious posts, of course it may have put the children at risk.

When there is a queue at any desk, or anyone is waiting, they tend to read anything that is on the walls or lieing around.

If the wrong person read it, that children were alone but being checked, then the danger is magnified.



It was very thoughtless, imo, that this note was left for others to see  BUT I can understand a young person maybe not realising the danger.  Was the recptionist who wrote it, a younger person or someone with life experience, who ought to have had more sense?

Why this blaming other people Sadie.

The Mccanns were responsible for their own childcare.