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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Search areas: who searched where, when and how
« Reply #150 on: August 28, 2015, 08:09:05 AM »
The  Mossad MFI CUA  and other organisations are all over the place, you never know when they're watching you or after you...I've had strange goings in with my computer too ever since I posted in this case, it's freaky sometimes..I used all the Microsoft updates religiously and had an antivirus programme as well....even if it was nothing to do with them I am sure there are people with know how who can tamper

It's probably the elite....
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Re: Search areas: who searched where, when and how
« Reply #151 on: August 28, 2015, 08:13:12 AM »
It's probably the elite....

The Reptiles, freemasons, etc.

I'm sure sadie agrees.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Search areas: who searched where, when and how
« Reply #152 on: August 28, 2015, 08:20:21 AM »

Topic.  Please.

Offline sadie

Re: Search areas: who searched where, when and how
« Reply #153 on: August 28, 2015, 10:57:22 AM »
The  Mossad MFI CUA  and other organisations are all over the place, you never know when they're watching you or after you...I've had strange goings in with my computer too ever since I posted in this case, it's freaky sometimes..I used all the Microsoft updates religiously and had an antivirus programme as well....even if it was nothing to do with them I am sure there are people with know how who can tamper
Ooo-er ... poor mercury !!

You'll have to get the Police onto the MFI, CUA and the Mossad

Maybe they will get you it sussed.

 *&*%£


Offline pegasus

Re: Search areas: who searched where, when and how
« Reply #154 on: August 28, 2015, 12:13:16 PM »
You are referring to the raised block almost immediately opposite Block 5, yes? - the one to the left of the walkway from Rua Agostinho da Silva? I can't see where a vehicle can get from the north side to the south side of the block.
Yes. Stand on Rua Ramalhete at the north end of the walkway, what do you see between the walkway and this building?

Offline pegasus

Re: Search areas: who searched where, when and how
« Reply #155 on: August 28, 2015, 01:01:05 PM »
UK 2013. A 3 yr old boy was put to bed at about 8.40 pm but when checked at about 9pm was discovered to be missing. The parent frantically ransacked the whole house, including wardrobe, cupboards, drawers, recesses, and under bed. Police were called and searched the house. Police sniffer dogs were used to search the surrounding area. A search helicopter was deployed. A moorland rescue team was called in to help search. A large number of volunteers from the community helped in the search.
The parent said the child was capable of getting out the front door, and possibly heard a clicking noise from it. It was dark and raining. The was a stream at the end of the garden. A sibling was on a sleepover a few houses away just round the corner.
« Last Edit: August 28, 2015, 01:04:23 PM by pegasus »

Offline misty

Re: Search areas: who searched where, when and how
« Reply #156 on: August 28, 2015, 01:29:58 PM »
Yes. Stand on Rua Ramalhete at the north end of the walkway, what do you see between the walkway and this building?

I see an additional area of paving which possibly leads to the south facing side of the block. The presence of the low bush at the end of the paving before you would have to turn sharp right makes me think that this is not a route for vehicles. I'm only seeing what appears to be small gardens from a satellite view. Have you been there & seen any garages?
However - disregard that block and look at the block to the east, follow Agostina  up around the corner nearly to the junction with Ramalhete. On the left is a large low gate, and there is what seems to be a garage door underneath the apartments at a 90° angle to the building. I think this is the garage being referred to.
« Last Edit: August 28, 2015, 01:35:46 PM by misty »

Offline pegasus

Re: Search areas: who searched where, when and how
« Reply #157 on: August 28, 2015, 02:01:05 PM »
I see an additional area of paving which possibly leads to the south facing side of the block. The presence of the low bush at the end of the paving before you would have to turn sharp right makes me think that this is not a route for vehicles. I'm only seeing what appears to be small gardens from a satellite view. Have you been there & seen any garages?
However - disregard that block and look at the block to the east, follow Agostina  up around the corner nearly to the junction with Ramalhete. On the left is a large low gate, and there is what seems to be a garage door underneath the apartments at a 90° angle to the building. I think this is the garage being referred to.
That is the vehicle access - there are definitely 8 garages on south side - they are integrated into the apartment building, under the balconies, and that is why you don't see them from above. IMO this is the building SC describes, not the one to east
« Last Edit: August 28, 2015, 02:05:34 PM by pegasus »

Offline Brietta

Re: Search areas: who searched where, when and how
« Reply #158 on: August 28, 2015, 02:03:01 PM »
I see an additional area of paving which possibly leads to the south facing side of the block. The presence of the low bush at the end of the paving before you would have to turn sharp right makes me think that this is not a route for vehicles. I'm only seeing what appears to be small gardens from a satellite view. Have you been there & seen any garages?
However - disregard that block and look at the block to the east, follow Agostina  up around the corner nearly to the junction with Ramalhete. On the left is a large low gate, and there is what seems to be a garage door underneath the apartments at a 90° angle to the building. I think this is the garage being referred to.

Good find, Misty.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline misty

Re: Search areas: who searched where, when and how
« Reply #159 on: August 28, 2015, 03:13:37 PM »
UK 2013. A 3 yr old boy was put to bed at about 8.40 pm but when checked at about 9pm was discovered to be missing. The parent frantically ransacked the whole house, including wardrobe, cupboards, drawers, recesses, and under bed. Police were called and searched the house. Police sniffer dogs were used to search the surrounding area. A search helicopter was deployed. A moorland rescue team was called in to help search. A large number of volunteers from the community helped in the search.
The parent said the child was capable of getting out the front door, and possibly heard a clicking noise from it. It was dark and raining. The was a stream at the end of the garden. A sibling was on a sleepover a few houses away just round the corner.

Well, it wasn't this case
http://www.itv.com/news/anglia/story/2014-02-21/police-search-for-missing-3-year-old-boy/

as he was found in the kitchen cupboard asleep under a pile of carrier bags

Can't find a 2013  UK one citing the same circumstances you have quoted. Lots of other, sometimes tragic, cases abroad, though of 3 & 4 year olds wandering.


Offline misty

Re: Search areas: who searched where, when and how
« Reply #160 on: August 28, 2015, 03:26:02 PM »
That is the vehicle access - there are definitely 8 garages on south side - they are integrated into the apartment building, under the balconies, and that is why you don't see them from above. IMO this is the building SC describes, not the one to east

No, sorry, still not seeing it. The access path is level, not sloping down to get to garages at a lower level than the ground floor apartments. The aerial view shows greenery/garden in 4 places so how would there be access to 8 garages? Not enough room to manoeuvre in & out in my opinion.
However, if you can tell me you have been there & seen them I will accept that.

Offline pegasus

Re: Search areas: who searched where, when and how
« Reply #161 on: August 28, 2015, 03:31:12 PM »
Well, it wasn't this case
http://www.itv.com/news/anglia/story/2014-02-21/police-search-for-missing-3-year-old-boy/

as he was found in the kitchen cupboard asleep under a pile of carrier bags

Can't find a 2013  UK one citing the same circumstances you have quoted. Lots of other, sometimes tragic, cases abroad, though of 3 & 4 year olds wandering.
No the 3yr-old I described was definitely not found in the kitchen cupboard asleep.
Your guess of the distance the child travelled is incorrect.
It's not surprising the helicopter and a moorland rescue team didn't find the child.

Offline pegasus

Re: Search areas: who searched where, when and how
« Reply #162 on: August 28, 2015, 03:46:21 PM »
No, sorry, still not seeing it. The access path is level, not sloping down to get to garages at a lower level than the ground floor apartments. The aerial view shows greenery/garden in 4 places so how would there be access to 8 garages? Not enough room to manoeuvre in & out in my opinion.
However, if you can tell me you have been there & seen them I will accept that.
Never been there but recessed in between your gardens are balcony areas and under those are garages.

Offline misty

Re: Search areas: who searched where, when and how
« Reply #163 on: August 28, 2015, 03:47:57 PM »
Never been there but recessed in between your gardens are balcony areas and under those are garages.

No the 3yr-old I described was definitely not found in the kitchen cupboard asleep.
Your guess of the distance the child travelled is incorrect.
It's not surprising the helicopter and a moorland rescue team didn't find the child.

I assume from what you have quoted that the boy was found alive at the sleepover party.

Unlike this poor child
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2682911/Relative-missing-five-year-old-Canadian-boy-grandparents-taken-questioning-disappearance.html

Offline pegasus

Re: Search areas: who searched where, when and how
« Reply #164 on: August 28, 2015, 04:06:43 PM »
I assume from what you have quoted that the boy was found alive at the sleepover party.

Unlike this poor child
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2682911/Relative-missing-five-year-old-Canadian-boy-grandparents-taken-questioning-disappearance.html
No not at the sleepover. And not in the stream at the bottom of the garden.
He was found somewhere it would have been impossible for the search helicopter to fly.
And it would have been interesting trying to send the whole of the Dartmoor Rescue Team there.
"let's split up - you three search at the head end and we'll cover the foot end, look out for spiders"
Yes asleep under the bed. And I was not lying when I told you that under the bed was searched at the beginning - it was.
Two hours later a copper finally had a burst of common sense and decided to search inside again.
Properly this time. Even then at first all they saw was a torch and a pile of clothes.
http://www.exeterexpressandecho.co.uk/Mum-sparked-massive-search-missing-son-hiding-bed/story-20025339-detail/story.html
« Last Edit: August 28, 2015, 04:16:35 PM by pegasus »