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stephen25000

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Re: Why the abduction theory is both improbable and implausible...
« Reply #45 on: May 25, 2015, 05:13:00 PM »
Why choose her?

You are kidding, aren't you ?

Offline jassi

Re: Why the abduction theory is both improbable and implausible...
« Reply #46 on: May 25, 2015, 05:13:04 PM »
These are all grains of sand that pile up though, no? The timeline, window, statistics, dogs etc. I'm also fully aware that anyone could make a case however weak, for their agenda, which is why people pay big money for good lawyers. FWIW, hopefully we will eventually find out the truth to quench this speculation. In my heart I believe the McCanns are innocent, but I would not be unduly surprised to find out the reverse is true. If we look at the situation from the parents that dunnit angle, Madeleine could have passed away before they went out for the night. If we also consider hypothetically that they are narcissists and quite in control of their emotions it is not inconceivable that thinking people would devise a plan to move the body and stage an abduction. This becomes even easier and even more believable imo if there was a conspiracy between 1 or 2 other members of the group. I don't know the McCanns and neither do I suspect people on this forum do though of course it would not be surprising if one or two of you did know them in some way. Therefore, I do not know what they may or may not be capable of. They had motive imo. And that motive was the complete loss of their way of life, income, children - basically everything.

And even if that was not going to be the case, they couldn't be sure of that at the time.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Why the abduction theory is both improbable and implausible...
« Reply #47 on: May 25, 2015, 05:15:35 PM »
These are all grains of sand that pile up though, no? The timeline, window, statistics, dogs etc. I'm also fully aware that anyone could make a case however weak, for their agenda, which is why people pay big money for good lawyers. FWIW, hopefully we will eventually find out the truth to quench this speculation. In my heart I believe the McCanns are innocent, but I would not be unduly surprised to find out the reverse is true. If we look at the situation from the parents that dunnit angle, Madeleine could have passed away before they went out for the night. If we also consider hypothetically that they are narcissists and quite in control of their emotions it is not inconceivable that thinking people would devise a plan to move the body and stage an abduction. This becomes even easier and even more believable imo if there was a conspiracy between 1 or 2 other members of the group. I don't know the McCanns and neither do I suspect people on this forum do though of course it would not be surprising if one or two of you did know them in some way. Therefore, I do not know what they may or may not be capable of. They had motive imo. And that motive was the complete loss of their way of life, income, children - basically everything.
No, these are not grains of sand (making a large sand dune of evidence), they are simply worn out "sceptic" arguments that have been trotted out time and again over the last 8 years and which don't stand up to close scrutiny. 

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Re: Why the abduction theory is both improbable and implausible...
« Reply #48 on: May 25, 2015, 05:15:44 PM »
These are all grains of sand that pile up though, no? The timeline, window, statistics, dogs etc. I'm also fully aware that anyone could make a case however weak, for their agenda, which is why people pay big money for good lawyers. FWIW, hopefully we will eventually find out the truth to quench this speculation. In my heart I believe the McCanns are innocent, but I would not be unduly surprised to find out the reverse is true. If we look at the situation from the parents that dunnit angle, Madeleine could have passed away before they went out for the night. If we also consider hypothetically that they are narcissists and quite in control of their emotions it is not inconceivable that thinking people would devise a plan to move the body and stage an abduction. This becomes even easier and even more believable imo if there was a conspiracy between 1 or 2 other members of the group. I don't know the McCanns and neither do I suspect people on this forum do though of course it would not be surprising if one or two of you did know them in some way. Therefore, I do not know what they may or may not be capable of. They had motive imo. And that motive was the complete loss of their way of life, income, children - basically everything.

Good post.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

stephen25000

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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Why the abduction theory is both improbable and implausible...
« Reply #50 on: May 25, 2015, 05:16:44 PM »
Exactly.

Another reason why I don't believe in abduction.
You've just argued against yourself there. @)(++(*

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Why the abduction theory is both improbable and implausible...
« Reply #51 on: May 25, 2015, 05:17:45 PM »
You are kidding, aren't you ?
No, I'm not kidding at all, why would I kid about a thing like that? 

Offline mercury

Re: Why the abduction theory is both improbable and implausible...
« Reply #52 on: May 25, 2015, 05:19:47 PM »
These are all grains of sand that pile up though, no? The timeline, window, statistics, dogs etc. I'm also fully aware that anyone could make a case however weak, for their agenda, which is why people pay big money for good lawyers. FWIW, hopefully we will eventually find out the truth to quench this speculation. In my heart I believe the McCanns are innocent, but I would not be unduly surprised to find out the reverse is true. If we look at the situation from the parents that dunnit angle, Madeleine could have passed away before they went out for the night. If we also consider hypothetically that they are narcissists and quite in control of their emotions it is not inconceivable that thinking people would devise a plan to move the body and stage an abduction. This becomes even easier and even more believable imo if there was a conspiracy between 1 or 2 other members of the group. I don't know the McCanns and neither do I suspect people on this forum do though of course it would not be surprising if one or two of you did know them in some way. Therefore, I do not know what they may or may not be capable of. They had motive imo. And that motive was the complete loss of their way of life, income, children - basically everything.

That is an excellent post.

 8((()*/

IMO abduction is not too implausible but definitely not "probable".

For the above and a few other reasons, including a very simple and basic one, I do not believe the Mccanns ....
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Why the abduction theory is both improbable and implausible...
« Reply #53 on: May 25, 2015, 05:21:59 PM »
It's good to see so many sceptics agreeing with someone who doesn't (in his heart of hearts) believe that the McCanns dunnit!  8((()*/

stephen25000

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Re: Why the abduction theory is both improbable and implausible...
« Reply #54 on: May 25, 2015, 05:22:17 PM »
You've just argued against yourself there. @)(++(*


No alfred.

I know you're a bit slow.

If there was an abduction.


Someone's would have snitched a long time ago.

Do keep up. 8)--)) 8((()*/

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Why the abduction theory is both improbable and implausible...
« Reply #55 on: May 25, 2015, 05:23:24 PM »

No alfred.

I know you're a bit slow.

If there was an abduction.


Someone's would have snitched a long time ago.

Do keep up. 8)--)) 8((()*/
Is that a fact?  Some sort of scientific law?  Who has snitched in the case of Ben Needham?  Claudia Lawrence?  Suzy Lamplugh?  Do tell.

stephen25000

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Re: Why the abduction theory is both improbable and implausible...
« Reply #56 on: May 25, 2015, 05:24:06 PM »
It's good to see so many sceptics agreeing with someone who doesn't (in his heart of hearts) believe that the McCanns dunnit!  8((()*/

Accidental death does not mean  the mccanns were involved.

Try again alfred.

Offline mercury

Re: Why the abduction theory is both improbable and implausible...
« Reply #57 on: May 25, 2015, 05:24:42 PM »
It's good to see so many sceptics agreeing with someone who doesn't (in his heart of hearts) believe that the McCanns dunnit!  8((()*/

Yes, do enjoy, it's not impossible after all. Then again it's also entirely possible it's wrong. Honest people will accept this.

 8((()*/

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Why the abduction theory is both improbable and implausible...
« Reply #58 on: May 25, 2015, 05:25:10 PM »
Accidental death does not mean  the mccanns were involved.

Try again alfred.
Eh?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Why the abduction theory is both improbable and implausible...
« Reply #59 on: May 25, 2015, 05:26:23 PM »
Yes, do enjoy, it's not impossible after all. Then again it's also entirely possible it's wrong. Honest people will accept this.

 8((()*/
So are you too are agreeing that Madeleine may have been abducted?