Why the abduction theory is both improbable and implausible...

[Alfred R Jones]

Now alfred let's have some coherent and readoned evidence of abduction.

It's long overdue.

Could you kindly keep to the topic, thanks.

[Alfred R Jones]

Stephen has cited Madeleine's weight (compared to that of her sister's) as a reason why abduction is both improbable and implausible.  Any thoughts, anyone else?

[Alfred R Jones]

I already said it is not implausible.

Great, so we can agree on something - abduction is a plausible theory to explain Madeleine's disappearance.. 

[Brietta]

Stephen has cited Madeleine's weight (compared to that of her sister's) as a reason why abduction is both improbable and implausible.  Any thoughts, anyone else?

As we have seen in a more recent case, a child was abducted because she would have fitted the photograph on the passport of another child.

[Alice Purjorick]

Is 21:35 to 22.00 not sufficient time for a child abduction to take place then, in your opinion?

I didn't say that I merely pointed out your posted time period of when the McCanns went to dinner and 22:00 was incorrect.
But if everyone is hacking up and the street randomly like commuters at knocking off time the average ne'er do well who had been casing the joint for the past god knows how many days (allegedly) would be likely to call it off.

[Alfred R Jones]

I didn't say that I merely pointed out your posted time period of when the McCanns went to dinner and 22:00 was incorrect.
But if everyone is hacking up and the street randomly like commuters at knocking off time the average ne'er do well who had been casing the joint for the past god knows how many days (allegedly) would be likely to call it off.

1) My time period is only incorrect if you accept as the truth every statement made by the McCann group, something which I'm sure you don't so I'm surprised at you making such an observation and
2) Can you please supply evidence that the street outside Apartment 5a was filled with so many people it was like commuters at rush hour?

[Alice Purjorick]

1) My time period is only incorrect if you accept as the truth every statement made by the McCann group, something which I'm sure you don't so I'm surprised at you making such an observation and
2) Can you please supply evidence that the street outside Apartment 5a was filled with so many people it was like commuters at rush hour?

Why? Do you have reason to believe that Gerry was less than truthful about his "proud father" moment?
Check the timelines for those of T9 who hacked up and down the street add in folk we don't about (it is a thoroughfare after all) add in the owners of all the cars obscuring sight lines (see Jez n Jane n Gerry thread) and that would be enough to cock up any split second accurate timing arrangement. So we have a situation of you either I say eether.

[sadie]

I didn't say that I merely pointed out your posted time period of when the McCanns went to dinner and 22:00 was incorrect.
But if everyone is hacking up and the street randomly like commuters at knocking off time the average ne'er do well who had been casing the joint for the past god knows how many days (allegedly) would be likely to call it off.

Rubbish

The back streets of Pdl are almost like a ghost town at the beginning of May.

Go and look for yourself

[misty]

The Hatton Garden Heist happened. A busy London street & plenty of security didn't stop it. Windows of opportunity aren't limited to a few minutes.

[Alfred R Jones]

Why? Do you have reason to believe that Gerry was less than truthful about his "proud father" moment?
Check the timelines for those of T9 who hacked up and down the street add in folk we don't about (it is a thoroughfare after all) add in the owners of all the cars obscuring sight lines (see Jez n Jane n Gerry thread) and that would be enough to cock up any split second accurate timing arrangement. So we have a situation of you either I say eether.

No, I have no reason to doubt the McCann statements, how about you though?  Do you believe that all the statements given that night were given as truthful accounts of events that evening?  If you believe that something unspeakable happened to Madeleine that evening and that her parents were involved in a cover up then I guess you'd be struggling with the "proud father" statement, correct?

Where are all these car owners' etc statements then, if they were busy traipsing around outside Apt 5a all evening?

[Alfred R Jones]

One or two sceptics have conceded here today that abduction is a plausible theory to explain Madeleine's disappearance - how do you feel about this Stephen?  Are they wrong, in your opinion?

[Mr Gray]

The abduction is both plausible and possible.....SY based their remit on it. No one is saying it's 100% certain..

[slartibartfast]

The abduction is both plausible and possible.....SY based their remit on it. No one is saying it's 100% certain..

Just unlikely.

[stephen25000]

The abduction is both plausible and possible.....SY based their remit on it. No one is saying it's 100% certain..

They believeeeeeeeee

[stephen25000]

One or two sceptics have conceded here today that abduction is a plausible theory to explain Madeleine's disappearance - how do you feel about this Stephen?  Are they wrong, in your opinion?

Well do you believe in the accidental death scenario, or the usual alternative of Madeleine walking out of the apartment , and  disappearing ?

People can believe what they wish.

Meanwhile we have the second comers, where  the originator believes Madeleine is the second coming, and firmly believes, he and Madeleine are descended from JC. 

Well it takes all sorts, doesn't it Alfred  ?