The parents of a missing child don't matter.

[slartibartfast]

Ironside was a bit of a leading sceptic authority, his or her pronouncements are recorded on Pamalam's blog for posterity, must be important, eh?

Not everybody tours the various sites.

[Eleanor]

The Parents of a Missing Child Don't Matter.

[pathfinder73]

[Brietta]

Are you suggesting that Madeleine McCann's parents were accompanied by a lawyer during initial interviews when the police were still looking for their child.

You really do come up with utter nonsense on occasion ... but this piece of innuendo takes the biscuit ... that tragic father had no need to engage a lawyer initially ... and initially ... neither did Madeleine's parents.

[pathfinder73]

Control Risks were with them in May - I think the clue is in the name. Re-took the McCanns' statements as it was feared that parts of these might have been lost in translation (this later proved to be the case)  And innocent parents of a missing child matter to the police.

12 Aug 07

The man in charge of the case, Chief Inspector Olegario Sousa, stressed they were not suspects.

"They are victims of the crime because they have lost their little child," he said.

[Brietta]

Control Risks were with them in May - I think the clue is in the name. Re-took the McCanns' statements as it was feared that parts of these might have been lost in translation (this later proved to be the case)  And innocent parents of a missing child matter to the police.

12 Aug 07

The man in charge of the case, Chief Inspector Olegario Sousa, stressed they were not suspects.

"They are victims of the crime because they have lost their little child," he said.

So are you saying Control Risks sat in police interviews with them?

[pathfinder73]

So are you saying Control Risks sat in police interviews with them?

They went over everything with Control Risks and then changed their statements. They said the Portuguese translators were wrong, they said the dogs were wrong, they said Pamela Fenn was wrong, they said the cleaner was wrong. They said everybody was wrong except them.

There is a report from Control Risks, the first private detective agency which was brought to the case [by the McCanns] in the very first days, where they state, after speaking with Gerald McCann and other witnesses in that group [Tapas 9], that the key that Mr. Gerald McCann alleges to have used had in fact been left in the kitchen, in the kitchen’s counter. Right away, the lies started. (Gonçalo Amaral)

The first arguido Robert Murat fully co-operated and answered all questions to the police.

She reports only one episode where, on the morning of Thursday May 3rd, Madeleine asked the interviewee why she had not come to look in the bedroom when the twins were crying. The interviewee states that she had heard nothing and had therefore not gone into the bedroom. She thought her daughter's comment strange because it was the first time she had talked about it. (KM 4 May)

Madeleine made a comment where were you when I cried. (KM 2008)

[Mr Gray]

They went over everything with Control Risks and then changed their statements. They said the Portuguese translators were wrong, they said the dogs were wrong, they said Pamela Fenn was wrong, they said the cleaner was wrong. They said everybody was wrong except them.

There is a report from Control Risks, the first private detective agency which was brought to the case [by the McCanns] in the very first days, where they state, after speaking with Gerald McCann and other witnesses in that group [Tapas 9], that the key that Mr. Gerald McCann alleges to have used had in fact been left in the kitchen, in the kitchen’s counter. Right away, the lies started. (Gonçalo Amaral)

The first arguido Robert Murat fully co-operated and answered all questions to the police.

She reports only one episode where, on the morning of Thursday May 3rd, Madeleine asked the interviewee why she had not come to look in the bedroom when the twins were crying. The interviewee states that she had heard nothing and had therefore not gone into the bedroom. She thought her daughter's comment strange because it was the first time she had talked about it. (KM 4 May)

Madeleine made a comment where were you when I cried. (KM 2008)

I think they are right

[stephen25000]

I think they are right

Were you there ?

[Mr Gray]

Were you there ?

yes

[pegasus]

IMO the child's account of the crying, as truthfully described by KM, is correct.

[sadie]

They went over everything with Control Risks and then changed their statements. They said the Portuguese translators were wrong, they said the dogs were wrong, they said Pamela Fenn was wrong, they said the cleaner was wrong. They said everybody was wrong except them.

There is a report from Control Risks, the first private detective agency which was brought to the case [by the McCanns] in the very first days, where they state, after speaking with Gerald McCann and other witnesses in that group [Tapas 9], that the key that Mr. Gerald McCann alleges to have used had in fact been left in the kitchen, in the kitchen’s counter. Right away, the lies started. (Gonçalo Amaral)

The first arguido Robert Murat fully co-operated and answered all questions to the police.

She reports only one episode where, on the morning of Thursday May 3rd, Madeleine asked the interviewee why she had not come to look in the bedroom when the twins were crying. The interviewee states that she had heard nothing and had therefore not gone into the bedroom. She thought her daughter's comment strange because it was the first time she had talked about it. (KM 4 May)

Madeleine made a comment where were you when I cried. (KM 2008)

Two things strike me about these videos:

1)  How slick and professional they are.

Am I right that Hideho is just a craft type painter?  And not a video producer by profession.


Who is providing these pieces of propaganda .... and making these slick productions?   
They are professional and would cost megabucks to produce

... and they blatently provide bits of untruth, like Gerry coming in via the front door.


It is obvious someone has a lot to lose if he / his backing organisation is found responsible .... so he/they are willing to pay out the mega bucks money to try and twist the evidence


2)  IMO, Pfinder finds, twists and produces far too much info. for her to do it on her own. 

Who is feeding her?
Who is pulling her strings?

[pathfinder73]

I do my own research. Try it and you keep getting things wrong.

She reports only one episode where, on the morning of Thursday May 3rd, Madeleine asked the interviewee why she had not come to look in the bedroom when the twins were crying. (KM 4 May)

[G-Unit]

They went over everything with Control Risks and then changed their statements. They said the Portuguese translators were wrong, they said the dogs were wrong, they said Pamela Fenn was wrong, they said the cleaner was wrong. They said everybody was wrong except them.

There is a report from Control Risks, the first private detective agency which was brought to the case [by the McCanns] in the very first days, where they state, after speaking with Gerald McCann and other witnesses in that group [Tapas 9], that the key that Mr. Gerald McCann alleges to have used had in fact been left in the kitchen, in the kitchen’s counter. Right away, the lies started. (Gonçalo Amaral)

The first arguido Robert Murat fully co-operated and answered all questions to the police.

She reports only one episode where, on the morning of Thursday May 3rd, Madeleine asked the interviewee why she had not come to look in the bedroom when the twins were crying. The interviewee states that she had heard nothing and had therefore not gone into the bedroom. She thought her daughter's comment strange because it was the first time she had talked about it. (KM 4 May)

Madeleine made a comment where were you when I cried. (KM 2008)

There are those who say David Payne may have gone to help Kate with the children. Interesting that in the 'crying' interview Gerry wonders if Madeleine was crying 'when they were bathing them'. Probably just a slip of the tongue.

[Lyall]

Two things strike me about these videos:

1)  How slick and professional they are.

Am I right that Hideho is just a craft type painter?  And not a video producer by profession.


Who is providing these pieces of propaganda .... and making these slick productions?   
They are professional and would cost megabucks to produce

... and they blatently provide bits of untruth, like Gerry coming in via the front door.


It is obvious someone has a lot to lose if he / his backing organisation is found responsible .... so he/they are willing to pay out the mega bucks money to try and twist the evidence


2)  IMO, Pfinder finds, twists and produces far too much info. for her to do it on her own. 

Who is feeding her?
Who is pulling her strings?

Nah, it's very easy to make them these days Sadie. Maybe too easy!