The parents of a missing child don't matter.

[Alfred R Jones]

Quite so. Attempting to cover up something relatively minor may have caused all their later problems.

What exactly do you think they covered up?  Did they ever pretend they did not leave their children alone?  did not the waiters at the Tapas make statements to the effect that they regularly observed members of the group leaving to check on their children?? Did not Kate volunteer the  information regarding Madeleine crying one night and asking where they were?  So - what exactly do you think they are lying about?

[G-Unit]

What exactly do you think they covered up?  Did they ever pretend they did not leave their children alone?  did not the waiters at the Tapas make statements to the effect that they regularly observed members of the group leaving to check on their children?? Did not Kate volunteer the  information regarding Madeleine crying one night and asking where they were?  So - what exactly do you think they are lying about?

They have told us things that don't make sense. Their stories have changed over time. They have offered explanations for things after the event. They have refused to answer direct questions. Why? I don't know.

[Alfred R Jones]

They have told us things that don't make sense. Their stories have changed over time. They have offered explanations for things after the event. They have refused to answer direct questions. Why? I don't know.

All very vague accusations.  By "they" do you mean all nine members of the party?  Do you or do you not accept that a) 9 different recollections will not all mesh perfectly with regard to the series of events leading up to the disappearance and b) that memories are susceptible to change as time marches on?  And apart from Kate's refusal to answer 48 leading police questions whilst being interrogated as an arguido what questions have they refused to answer to your satisfaction?

[Carana]

If a child had gone missing while on a school holiday / summer camp, whatever else, would there be more sympathy for parents then? If so, why? If not, why not?

[G-Unit]

If a child had gone missing while on a school holiday / summer camp, whatever else, would there be more sympathy for parents then? If so, why? If not, why not?

Clearly. The parents are automatically excluded if the child is away from it's parents when it goes missing. When the parents are the last people to see a missing child they are automatically included in any investigations.

[Miss Taken Identity]

What exactly do you think they covered up?  Did they ever pretend they did not leave their children alone?  did not the waiters at the Tapas make statements to the effect that they regularly observed members of the group leaving to check on their children?? Did not Kate volunteer the  information regarding Madeleine crying one night and asking where they were?  So - what exactly do you think they are lying about?

I think they are lying about the 'jemmid shutters' and open window with the whooshing curtains. My reason for that mind set is quite simple: PR ! they did not want to be scolded /arrested/ for leaving their babies and toddler alone each evening- no physical checks- no scheduled checks- unlocked apartment for easy access for any 'abductor'.  What they did was cruel and disgraceful, but to invent a scenario to make it look like they were the victims of  an abductor through a window, is beyond vile in many peoples minds. ( people whom I have spoken with). and they came out of that country clean as whistles- no fault -no blame- all nice and luverly.

Looks like the child does't matter...

[ShiningInLuz]

What exactly do you think they covered up?  Did they ever pretend they did not leave their children alone?  did not the waiters at the Tapas make statements to the effect that they regularly observed members of the group leaving to check on their children?? Did not Kate volunteer the  information regarding Madeleine crying one night and asking where they were?  So - what exactly do you think they are lying about?

Both parents on their 4 May 2007 statements say Madeleine reported the twins crying.  The twins, not Madeleine.

[pegasus]

Both parents on their 4 May 2007 statements say Madeleine reported the twins crying.  The twins, not Madeleine.

That fits with the statements in the files by 2 Leic Police liaison officers in PDL.

"At about 20.00 on Saturday 5th May 2007, I arrived at the apartment where Kate and Gerry were staying, with other officers. During the meeting Gerald and Kate had a number of questions to which they wanted follow up and responses from the PJ. One of these questions was that they wanted the PJ to be aware of was Madeleine's revelation about Wednesday night, when she said that she was left alone during the night. She told Kate and Gerry that she remembered the twins crying and that she wanted to know why neither her mother nor her father had gone to the room to see what was happening."
Source: Statement of liaison officer SM

"at approximately 20.00 on the 5th May, I arrived at the McCann apartment with other family communications officers. We were asked several times during this meeting about questions that Gerald and Kate would like to have followed up and responded to by the PJ. I remember that during the meetings, Kate revealed that Madeleine had spoken with her in the morning of her disappearance and said that she remembered the twins had cried during the night and that she wanted to know why neither her mother or father had appeared."
Source: Statement of liaison officer JM

[Alfred R Jones]

Both parents on their 4 May 2007 statements say Madeleine reported the twins crying.  The twins, not Madeleine.

So, I dreamt it when Kate reported what Madeleine had asked about where her parents were when she and Sean were crying...?

[G-Unit]

So, I dreamt it when Kate reported what Madeleine had asked about where her parents were when she and Sean were crying...?

No Alfred. Like a lot of the McCann's stories it developed over time. Like the curtains which were open..then closed.

[Mr Gray]

No Alfred. Like a lot of the McCann's stories it developed over time. Like the curtains which were open..then closed.

so every time it's retold..it changes slightly....that isn't suspicious...it's normal

[slartibartfast]

I think they are lying about the 'jemmid shutters' and open window with the whooshing curtains. My reason for that mind set is quite simple: PR ! they did not want to be scolded /arrested/ for leaving their babies and toddler alone each evening- no physical checks- no scheduled checks- unlocked apartment for easy access for any 'abductor'.  What they did was cruel and disgraceful, but to invent a scenario to make it look like they were the victims of  an abductor through a window, is beyond vile in many peoples minds. ( people whom I have spoken with). and they came out of that country clean as whistles- no fault -no blame- all nice and luverly.

Looks like the child does't matter...

Yup, the abduction scenario is the own the reflects least badly on K & G. I wonder why it is the most popular with K & G supporters? 

[Mr Gray]

Yup, the abduction scenario is the own the reflects least badly on K & G. I wonder why it is the most popular with K & G supporters? 

because it's what SY believe is what happened

[stephen25000]

because it's what SY believe is what happened

Indeed.

That makes you a belieber then.

[G-Unit]

so every time it's retold..it changes slightly....that isn't suspicious...it's normal

Is it normal to forget your child's (almost) last words to you? Madeleine said the twins cried. Both parents reported this to the PJ in their statements. They also told the liaison officers. At the table the night before, however, Kate told her friends a different story as Rachael reported;

Kate did, when we sat down at the table on the Thursday night. Kate said that, errm... Madeleine and Sean had cried... said they'd been crying, errm... and, you know, wondered where she was, or wondered where, you know, Mummy and Daddy were, errm..
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