The parents of a missing child don't matter.

[faithlilly]

You speak for all sceptics do you?

I speak for common sense.

[Alice Purjorick]

You or people like you are part of a campaign to spread suspicion and hatred about the McCanns (poorly disguised as "only asking questions") and which actively seeks to recruit new members to the cause, that's how.

Do you believe there is a conspiracy then?
Is it yet another movement or cult ?

[Alfred R Jones]

It is an interesting concept that if you are British and you express concerns about an attempted abduction of your child while on holiday abroad it immediately attracts opprobrium ~ ridicule ~ and the assumption you are lying through your teeth.

So the new rule of thumb for Brits abroad seems to be if you are sunning yourself at the poolside and you happen to see your child being led away in the direction of a car park by someone you don't know ... have no fear ... all is well ... adjust your sunglasses and continue working on your tan.

The default position of all McCann sceptics anywhere is - if there is a reported abduction attempt anywhere in the world then somehow the McCanns and Clarence are behind it and so it must be fake.

[Alfred R Jones]

Do you believe there is a conspiracy then?
Is it yet another movement or cult ?

No, it's not a conspiracy because it's not hidden - it's very obviously going on and many sceptics actively crow about the increasing numbers of their army, particularly on Facebook and Twitter - you don't "do" social media (allegedly) so you are ignorant of all this (allegedly).  And yes, it certainly is a movement (or cult if you prefer).

[faithlilly]

No, it's not a conspiracy because it's not hidden - it's very obviously going on and many sceptics actively crow about the increasing numbers of their army, particularly on Facebook and Twitter - you don't "do" social media (allegedly) so you are ignorant of all this (allegedly).  And yes, it certainly is a movement (or cult if you prefer).

So we 'sceptics' are luring the unaware to our cause like some latter day child catchers, is that what you're saying ?

 Tell me Alfie how do we recruit these individuals previously unblemished by any doubts about the McCanns ?

[Alice Purjorick]

No, it's not a conspiracy because it's not hidden - it's very obviously going on and many sceptics actively crow about the increasing numbers of their army, particularly on Facebook and Twitter - you don't "do" social media (allegedly) so you are ignorant of all this (allegedly). And yes, it certainly is a movement (or cult if you prefer).

No allegedly about it chief, I don't see the point of it. I talk to my friends on the phone or in the pub or send them emails and letters. "Txtspk tw..ter duz mi ed in m8" rollyeyes smiley. FFS we are supposed to be literate adults don't encourage them.
I will only notice when billboards have posters of a Lord Kitchener lookylikey pointing saying "The Sceptics Need YOU"

[sadie]

Do you believe there is a conspiracy then?
Is it yet another movement or cult ?

The disinformation  and vitriol against The Mccanns appears organised .... very organised and destructive propaganda

Disinformation put about and yes, it does seem a cult

... or, even worse, could it be something which is much more sinister ?

[faithlilly]

No allegedly about it chief, I don't see the point of it. I talk to my friends on the phone or in the pub or send them emails and letters. "Txtspk tw..ter duz mi ed in m8" rollyeyes smiley. FFS we are supposed to be literate adults don't encourage them.
I will only notice when billboards have posters of a Lord Kitchener lookylikey pointing saying "The Sceptics Need YOU"

 

[Mr Moderator]

The disinformation  and vitriol against The Mccanns appears organised .... very organised and destructive propaganda

Disinformation put about and yes, it does seem a cult

... or, even worse, could it be something which is much more sinister ?

Would that apply to Senior Amaral too Sadie?

[Alice Purjorick]

It is an interesting concept that if you are British and you express concerns about an attempted abduction of your child while on holiday abroad it immediately attracts opprobrium ~ ridicule ~ and the assumption you are lying through your teeth.

So the new rule of thumb for Brits abroad seems to be if you are sunning yourself at the poolside and you happen to see your child being led away in the direction of a car park by someone you don't know ... have no fear ... all is well ... adjust your sunglasses and continue working on your tan.

I see no problem with anxious parents of any nationality reporting suspicious events around children.
Given it does not spark off vigil[ censored word]m, a rush in the press to link it to the McCann case merely because it was on the same continent or the ubiquitous Jim Gamble (former head of CEOP as a subtitle) pontificating on the telly. Huh! fat chance of that ever.
What ever happened to the tale of the mob handed Romanian geezers dressed up as waiters, crashed getaway cars and all that haraz?

[Alfred R Jones]

So we 'sceptics' are luring the unaware to our cause like some latter day child catchers, is that what you're saying ?

 Tell me Alfie how do we recruit these individuals previously unblemished by any doubts about the McCanns ?

Do you deny that there is a concerted effort by the likes of Poulton, Bennett, Blacksmith et al to "educate the masses of sheeple" who have been "indoctrinated" by the "McCann-biased MSM" ?  Do you deny that hundreds of people have been added to Facebook groups about the case, sometimes without their knowledge?  Do you deny that there are countless individuals who have claimed on social media that they had fallen for the "McCann Scam" until they'd joined one of these groups and been shown the error of their ways?  If you want to describe these people  and organised sceptic groups as child-catchers then those are your words not mine. 

[Alfred R Jones]

No allegedly about it chief, I don't see the point of it. I talk to my friends on the phone or in the pub or send them emails and letters. "Txtspk tw..ter duz mi ed in m8" rollyeyes smiley. FFS we are supposed to be literate adults don't encourage them.
I will only notice when billboards have posters of a Lord Kitchener lookylikey pointing saying "The Sceptics Need YOU"

There seem to be some "sceptics" with more money and sense so it probably won't be long before billboards with just such a message are being paid for.  After all defacing billboards  and traffic signs was quite popular for a while, why not go to the next stage of marketing?

[Alice Purjorick]

There seem to be some "sceptics" with more money and sense so it probably won't be long before billboards with just such a message are being paid for.  After all defacing billboards  and traffic signs was quite popular for a while, why not go to the next stage of marketing?

"Bill Posters is innocent! it was Bill Stickers wot dunnit"

[Alice Purjorick]

Do you deny that there is a concerted effort by the likes of Poulton, Bennett, Blacksmith et al to "educate the masses of sheeple" who have been "indoctrinated" by the "McCann-biased MSM" ?  Do you deny that hundreds of people have been added to Facebook groups about the case, sometimes without their knowledge? Do you deny that there are countless individuals who have claimed on social media that they had fallen for the "McCann Scam" until they'd joined one of these groups and been shown the error of their ways?  If you want to describe these people  and organised sceptic groups as child-catchers then those are your words not mine.

If you are daft enough to sign up to a system that wants access to your email address book then ......?
One could of course, were one a trusting soul, create a specific email account for facebook with nowt else in it.

[Mr Gray]

If you are daft enough to sign up to a system that wants access to your email address book then ......?
One could of course, were one a trusting soul, create a specific email account for facebook with nowt else in it.

haven't you seen the message....you may sign in with your facebook account....quite innocuous at first glance