The parents of a missing child don't matter.

[Eleanor]

Okay.  Enough of the insults.  I shall shortly be deleting entire posts if they contain an insult of any kind.

[G-Unit]

no...I'm showing a little intelligence in the way I interpret the information...something you seem unable to do...not everything is black and white...


you belittle "roaring and kicking on the floor".......what has happenend in your life to cause you to be so cold and heartless

I find it strange. These are not people who display their emotions, they are disciplined and in control. Roaring and kicking seems completely out of character. I am also disciplined and in control of my emotions, and roaring and kicking would be impossible for me.

I also know what it's like to lose a young family member. I know that you can't speak about them without breaking down. I know that you can't eat, sleep, watch TV, listen to music or have normal conversations for months, even years. I know that family bonds are tested to their limits. I know how hard it is to go to work and try to behave normally. I know how guilty everyone feels for every time they were impatient or unsympathetic to that person. I know what it feels like to have your heart broken. All that happens even when you know all the details of what happened to them.

[G-Unit]

their behaviour and personality is part of them...however much you try and deny it...your utter dislike of them is obvious...shame you cannot be more truthful

Are you calling me a liar? I love my children but I don't always like their behaviour. I am indifferent to the McCanns but I don't like their behaviour. Please explain the difference.

[stephen25000]

Are you calling me a liar? I love my children but I don't always like their behaviour. I am indifferent to the McCanns but I don't like their behaviour. Please explain the difference.

It seems certain people only have sympathy for the mccanns.

[carlymichelle]

It seems certain people only have sympathy for the mccanns.

the thing is i  feel no sympathy   for gerry and kate only maddie gerry and  kate were adults they knew  their choices and behaviour was  wrong and still did it even after a  3 year old basically in her own little way that it  was  wrong and they brushed her off

[Benice]

The parents of a stolen child must suffer horribly. I can imagine the desperation and fear of what's happened which the parents must go through. I've seen them on TV, sobbing and begging for their child to be returned. It's very upsetting.

Then the McCann couple appeared on my TV screen. Emotionless. Expressionless. Defensive. Reading from crib sheets. Referring to Madeleine as 'a child', not 'my child', not 'our child', not 'my daughter', not 'our daughter'. Lots of animated  descriptions of slamming doors and whoosing curtains, along with actions. Not a word of how it felt to discover that empty bed. Never a tear.

I watched in disbelief. How controlled and cold. Clutching each other always. Why? No sign of breaking down when they spoke of her. No having to stop to gain control of emotion.

They didn't convince me then and they still haven't convinced me that their daughter was stolen. Madeleine is missing, yes, but we don't know how or why. Judging by the parents behaviour, their desperate desire to see what evidence there was against them, their unconvincing statements, I can't accept that they are innocent victims. They may not have harmed their daughter but they're hiding something in my opinion.

Consequently I reserve judgement. They may just be unemotional unfeeling people. They may be able to exert iron control over their feelings. They may have thought the shutters were forced. They may still be asking people to look for Tannerman because they can't be bothered to update their website (does that 'harm the search'? Yes, if people haven't seen Crimewatch).

You seem to have forgotten that the McCanns were advised not to show emotion in public as the abductor could get a kick out of that. 

You were not there with the McCanns.     The people who were there have said how desperately distressed they both were.   Are they all lying?

The fact that they depended greatly on the trauma counsellors - especially Alan Pike to help them to get through every parents worst nightmare should tell you something.  Cold and emotionless people don't need counselling.    IIRC the trauma counsellor said their reaction to the loss of their child was exactly what he would have expected and, unlike yourself, they actually spent a lot of time with them.

It seems to me that because the McCanns did not behave in exactly the way that YOU think they should have  - then IYO that proves something nasty and unacceptable about them.    For someone who has never been in their situation - that's quite an arrogant stance to take IMO

[carlymichelle]

It seems certain people only have sympathy for the mccanns.

shame maddie  isnt   thought of as much by them isnt it

[G-Unit]

no...I'm showing a little intelligence in the way I interpret the information...something you seem unable to do...not everything is black and white...


you belittle "roaring and kicking on the floor".......what has happenend in your life to cause you to be so cold and heartless

What you mean is you believe Gerry's sister when she says Gerry cried, but not when she says he told her the apartment was locked and broken into. Not a terribly intelligent conclusion in my opinion. You still haven't pointed me at anything which supports your belief that Kate has demonstrated how 'broken' she is by the way. It's because not everything is black and white that I am justified in rejecting the abduction theory, which has been presented as the only theory worth investigating by the parents, no alternatives possible according to them. Had they been more open minded and left the investigation alone to reach it's own conclusions I may have been more sympathetic to their plight.

[Lace]

You seem to have forgotten that the McCanns were advised not to show emotion in public as the abductor could get a kick out of that. 

You were not there with the McCanns.     The people who were there have said how desperately distressed they both were.   Are they all lying?

The fact that they depended greatly on the trauma counsellors - especially Alan Pike to help them to get through every parents worst nightmare should tell you something.  Cold and emotionless people don't need counselling.    IIRC the trauma counsellor said their reaction to the loss of their child was exactly what he would have expected and, unlike yourself, they actually spent a lot of time with them.

It seems to me that because the McCanns did not behave in exactly the way that YOU think they should have  - then IYO that proves something nasty and unacceptable about them.    For someone who has never been in their situation - that's quite an arrogant stance to take IMO

     WELL SAID BENICE

[Alfred R Jones]

You seem to have forgotten that the McCanns were advised not to show emotion in public as the abductor could get a kick out of that. 

You were not there with the McCanns.     The people who were there have said how desperately distressed they both were.   Are they all lying?

The fact that they depended greatly on the trauma counsellors - especially Alan Pike to help them to get through every parents worst nightmare should tell you something.  Cold and emotionless people don't need counselling.    IIRC the trauma counsellor said their reaction to the loss of their child was exactly what he would have expected and, unlike yourself, they actually spent a lot of time with them.

It seems to me that because the McCanns did not behave in exactly the way that YOU think they should have  - then IYO that proves something nasty and unacceptable about them.    For someone who has never been in their situation - that's quite an arrogant stance to take IMO

I have highlighted the most salient point you have made above.  It seems some people think they can judge people's behaviour from short video clips much better than those who are experiencing that behaviour first hand and for long periods.  You're right - it's supreme arrogance to assume you know better than experts with first hand knowledge but hasn't that been the case throughout?

[Brietta]

I find it strange. These are not people who display their emotions, they are disciplined and in control. Roaring and kicking seems completely out of character. I am also disciplined and in control of my emotions, and roaring and kicking would be impossible for me.

I also know what it's like to lose a young family member. I know that you can't speak about them without breaking down. I know that you can't eat, sleep, watch TV, listen to music or have normal conversations for months, even years. I know that family bonds are tested to their limits. I know how hard it is to go to work and try to behave normally. I know how guilty everyone feels for every time they were impatient or unsympathetic to that person. I know what it feels like to have your heart broken. All that happens even when you know all the details of what happened to them.

You know that is how you felt.  You know that is how you acted.  Did you do that in private and in public put on the stiff upper lip so that no casual observer would have had any idea of the inner turmoil you were going through?

With due respect ... in your loss ... I doubt if you faced the barrage of cameras and analysis of your behaviour and every move that Madeleine McCann's family did.

[Anna]

If the McCanns had been found guilty of concealment of a cadaver or neglect, they would probably have served their sentence by now.
However the punishment continues. What do you hope to achieve by attacking them on a daily basis? Just curious as to the reasons behind it.

[Benice]

Would the mccann supporters be so active, if the mccanns were a poor family from a council estate ?

Would some sceptics be so violently against the McCanns if they were a poor family from a council estate?

Where they live is of no interest to me as it has no bearing on the case. 

[Anna]

Like everybody else on here, I know that there is no evidence of wrong doing.
I don't know what happened to Madeleine. Maybe the parents were involved, I don't know.
The only thing that I defend is the right to Innocent until proven guilty,
It is not my place to be Judge and jury.

[G-Unit]

You seem to have forgotten that the McCanns were advised not to show emotion in public as the abductor could get a kick out of that. 

You were not there with the McCanns.     The people who were there have said how desperately distressed they both were.   Are they all lying?

The fact that they depended greatly on the trauma counsellors - especially Alan Pike to help them to get through every parents worst nightmare should tell you something.  Cold and emotionless people don't need counselling.    IIRC the trauma counsellor said their reaction to the loss of their child was exactly what he would have expected and, unlike yourself, they actually spent a lot of time with them.

It seems to me that because the McCanns did not behave in exactly the way that YOU think they should have  - then IYO that proves something nasty and unacceptable about them.    For someone who has never been in their situation - that's quite an arrogant stance to take IMO

Strong emotion can't be controlled, it breaks out when you least expect it to . A word, a thought and you're gone. So quickly no control is possible. I don't base my opinion just on the parents behaviour before the cameras either. There are many 'pointers' as Sadie says which suggest to me that things are not as they should be. You can fool all  the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all the people all the time as Abraham Lincoln put it. Thank you for your analysis of my stance. I can now add arrogance to untruthfulness, unintelligence and stupidity to my list of attributes. For caring and empathetic people some of you can sure dish out the insults.