The child gate located at the top of the steps.

[Mr Gray]

Why would anyone assume anythng else if that is all you posted, unless you want people to be mind readers!

As for signing any statement, if it was read back in English then I assume, the English speaker understood English so yes, presumably they would understand what they were signing.

depends how accurate the translation was...and we have no way of knowing....neither did Gerry...Gerry had no way of knowing what was written down...that is a fact

[mercury]

depends how accurate the translation was...and we have no way of knowing....neither did Gerry...Gerry had no way of knowing what was written down...that is a fact

Oh those evil translators.....the ones who just plucked out the word "key" and the phrase "because it was locked" from their imaginations ...ever heard of the phrase"scraping the barrell"? Or was it a case of Gerry being wrong in his memory and correcting himself in his second statement, or of not being wrong but changing the statement?

ETA:

What you are suggesting is what was written down was NOT what the translator read back in English before beng signed ..so basically youre calling the translator a fraud, more barrell scraping.

[misty]

Oh those evil translators.....the ones who just plucked out the word "key" and the phrase "because it was locked" from their imaginations ...ever heard of the phrase"scraping the barrell"? Or was it a case of Gerry being wrong in his memory and correcting himself in his second statement, or of not being wrong but changing the statement?

You only have to look at Google translations of Portuguese news articles to understand the fallibility of human translation.

[mercury]

You only have to look at Google translations of Portuguese news articles to understand the fallibility of human translation.

I think there is a difference Misty between google robotic translations and actual human translators

 

If the translations of statements in a criminal or other case were of the same par, I agree, there would be no point whatsoever

[Eleanor]

I think there is a difference Misty between google robotic translations and actual human translators

 

If the translations of statements in a criminal or other case were of the same par, I agree, there would be no point whatsoever

Well done you.

[mercury]

Well done you.

The analogy was a bit silly, I agree.

[Eleanor]

The analogy was a bit silly, I agree.

Not a problem for me.  We are all at point scoring, are we not?

[misty]

The analogy was a bit silly, I agree.

The files were translated into German & Dutch as well. Must have cost Levy a fortune to get them done accurately by humans.

[mercury]

Not a problem for me.  We are all at point scoring, are we not?

?? never mind.

[misty]

I think there is a difference Misty between google robotic translations and actual human translators

 

If the translations of statements in a criminal or other case were of the same par, I agree, there would be no point whatsoever

Is Google translate programmed by robots?

[mercury]

The files were translated into German & Dutch as well. Must have cost Levy a fortune to get them done accurately by humans.

I will try and respond when I don't get a cryptic question. Whats this, whatever it is about, got to do with the police having a translator? One whch by all accounts seems to be being called a fraud by some.

As I said, scraping barrells galore.

[mercury]

Is Google translate programmed by robots?

Whoever programmed Google translate deserves to be called a robot, or maybe not, not as good as robots.

[misty]

I will try and respond when I don't get a cryptic question. Whats this, whatever it is about, got to do with the police having a translator? One whch by all accounts seems to be being called a fraud by some.

As I said, scraping barrells galore.

The PJ did the bet they could as far as translation was concerned, given the circumstances and the number of English witnesses to urgently interview. I think you'd agree that some would have been much more proficient than others and to believe that every single word in each statement was exactly translated would be foolhardy.

[mercury]

The PJ did the bet they could as far as translation was concerned, given the circumstances and the number of English witnesses to urgently interview. I think you'd agree that some would have been much more proficient than others and to believe that every single word in each statement was exactly translated would be foolhardy.

So are you saying the Pj used unqualified translators, and if they did, what is to say they did a crap job?

not every single word or nuance has to be exact, just the facts of what was said, and Im sure, I did this then that and after that I did this, saw this, said this is not hard to translate, they werent reciting philosophies on the meaning of beauty in art for example

 

[misty]

So are you saying the Pj used unqualified translators, and if they did, what is to say they did a crap job?

not every single word or nuance has to be exact, just the facts of what was said, and Im sure, I did this then that and after that I did this, saw this, said this is not hard to translate, they werent reciting philosophies on the meaning of beauty in art for example

 

Murat wasn't a qualified translator, to name but one.
You say that not every single word or nuance has to be exact - so why on earth was a reconstitution required & why do the sceptics hyper-analyse every single word from the Tapas 9 statements in their attempts to prove itwastheMcCannswotdunit?