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Alfred R Jones

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Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« on: August 05, 2015, 10:14:24 AM »
For the purposes of clarity, please let it be known that I did not start this thread, it was started by Admin.  I am not suggesting that prosecuting historic sex abuse cases are a waste of police funds, nor that the McCann case be wound up because I beleive those culpable to be dead.



For thos complaining about the cost of the Madeleine investigation, what about the cost of investigating historic sex abuse allegations in which the protagonist is already dead and can never be brought to justice?

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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2015, 10:21:19 AM »
For thos complaining about the cost of the Madeleine investigation, what about the cost of investigating historic sex abuse allegations in which the protagonist is already dead and can never be brought to justice?

What about it?
Did all those abuses take place in countries where for example Wiltshire Police have no jurisdiction?
Some hitherto undiscovered protagonists may still be alive.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline sadie

Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2015, 10:27:16 AM »
What about it?
Did all those abuses take place in countries where for example Wiltshire Police have no jurisdiction?
Some hitherto undiscovered protagonists may still be alive.
Round them up.   More strength to your elbow, Scotland Yard !


Let's get them locked away.   Keep our children safe.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2015, 10:27:25 AM »
What about it?
Did all those abuses take place in countries where for example Wiltshire Police have no jurisdiction?
Some hitherto undiscovered protagonists may still be alive.
Well Ted Heath is definitely dead and the subject of what looks likely to be a lenghty and expensive investigation but I see your objection to the cost of the investigation is to the fact that the "crime" occurred abroad, so if Ted Heath had allegedly abused children whilst on Portuguese soil only, then obviously you'd be complaining about the investigation into his activities, right?

stephen25000

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Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2015, 10:29:04 AM »
Well Ted Heath is definitely dead and the subject of what looks likely to be a lenghty and expensive investigation but I see your objection to the cost of the investigation is to the fact that the "crime" occurred abroad, so if Ted Heath had allegedly abused children whilst on Portuguese soil only, then obviously you'd be complaining about the investigation into his activities, right?

Heath is just one of the names.

There are others Alfred.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2015, 11:55:06 AM »
Well Ted Heath is definitely dead and the subject of what looks likely to be a lenghty and expensive investigation but I see your objection to the cost of the investigation is to the fact that the "crime" occurred abroad, so if Ted Heath had allegedly abused children whilst on Portuguese soil only, then obviously you'd be complaining about the investigation into his activities, right?

Wrong!
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Alfred R Jones

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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2015, 12:04:35 PM »
Why so?

You asked a question I answered it.
Are you now wanting to play twenty* questions until we both get bored ?

*or may be I should have said play 48 questions.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2015, 12:48:56 PM »
You asked a question I answered it.
Are you now wanting to play twenty* questions until we both get bored ?

*or may be I should have said play 48 questions.
Yes, that sounds likea good idea for whiling away the day, so once again- why so?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2015, 12:52:22 PM »
Yes, that sounds likea good idea for whiling away the day, so once again- why so?

I am going to while away some of the rest of day standing up to my nicky nacky noos in a river waving a stick at some trout.
Catch you rater arrigator.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2015, 12:53:37 PM »
I am going to while away some of the rest of day standing up to my nicky nacky noos in a river waving a stick at some trout.
Catch you rater arrigator.
damn, and with that he wriggled off my hook and swam away as fast as his little fins would carry him!

stephen25000

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Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2015, 12:55:32 PM »
I am going to while away some of the rest of day standing up to my nicky nacky noos in a river waving a stick at some trout.
Catch you rater arrigator.

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Offline John

Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2015, 01:29:47 PM »
For thos complaining about the cost of the Madeleine investigation, what about the cost of investigating historic sex abuse allegations in which the protagonist is already dead and can never be brought to justice?

Interesting question Alfred, are you suggesting that the Madeleine investigation should now be abandoned on the basis the perpetrator or perpetrators are deceased?
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2015, 01:31:07 PM »
Interesting question Alfred, are you suggesting that the Madeleine investigation should now be abandoned on the basis the perpetrator or perpetrators are deceased?
No I'm not, and I'm a bit annoyed that I appear to have started a thread inferring this without my knowledge. 

Offline jassi

Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2015, 02:10:06 PM »
I would much rather that the police put their resources into investigating live criminals and relatively current crimes
Perhaps the Home Office could consider a special unit to look into historic crime
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

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