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Offline Anna

Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #30 on: August 05, 2015, 04:26:57 PM »
It would appear so, but could the tide be turning?   Is power, privilege and celebrity status still an impediment to justice?

I don't think that, that will ever change. That's what power is all about, after all.
 
So while alive they get away with dodging the system in every possible way.
As has been demonstrated by the now being investigated, historic sex abuse allegations. Too little too late.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #31 on: August 05, 2015, 04:34:00 PM »
I don't think that, that will ever change. That's what power is all about, after all.
 
So while alive they get away with dodging the system in every possible way.
As has been demonstrated by the now being investigated, historic sex abuse allegations. Too little too late.

If a former Prime Minister or two can get away with it what hope for us mere mortals?
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Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #32 on: August 05, 2015, 04:35:07 PM »
If a former Prime Minister or two can get away with it what hope for us mere morsels?
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Offline Anna

Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #33 on: August 05, 2015, 04:43:54 PM »
If a former Prime Minister or two can get away with it what hope for us mere mortals?

None whatsoever, Angelo.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #34 on: August 05, 2015, 04:52:38 PM »
@)(++(* "us mere morsels"  @)(++(*  Sorry, I know it was probably autocorrect but that made me laff!

Its been a slow day.  Corrected ta
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Offline Brietta

Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #35 on: August 05, 2015, 04:59:08 PM »
Its a pity that the allegations didn't come to light when they were alive, answerable, and could be punished if found guilty. I guess, That's what makes them historic sex abuse cases.

It is my firm opinion that there is always a danger that Justice may not be best served if there is guaranteed financial compensation to be had in conjunction with trawls using the Moorov Doctrine as a tool.

Don't think it is only the rich dead who may be worth an historical compensation claim ... you may be worth pursuing if you are very much alive and your employer is capable of paying out.
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Offline Anna

Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #36 on: August 05, 2015, 05:20:54 PM »
It is my firm opinion that there is always a danger that Justice may not be best served if there is guaranteed financial compensation to be had in conjunction with trawls using the Moorov Doctrine as a tool.

Don't think it is only the rich dead who may be worth an historical compensation claim ... you may be worth pursuing if you are very much alive and your employer is capable of paying out.

Power, makes all the difference, but not necessarily the power of wealth.
However most of these proved and unproved allegations are directed at the wealthy and famous. Hence the publicity. How many have been found guilty now?

Publicity is less harsh, on the proved allegations of sexual abuse by Mr Joe Common man.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #37 on: August 05, 2015, 05:34:26 PM »
I see the Jersey children's home has re emerged in the Ted Heath accusations. Isn't is wonderful too how the dead can be accused of just about anything these days?
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Offline jassi

Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #38 on: August 05, 2015, 05:38:30 PM »
I see the Jersey children's home has re emerged in the Ted Heath accusations. Isn't is wonderful too how the dead can be accused of just about anything these days?

Perhaps we might see a re-examination of the coconut shell  ?{)(**

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Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #39 on: August 05, 2015, 05:45:40 PM »
I see the Jersey children's home has re emerged in the Ted Heath accusations. Isn't is wonderful too how the dead can be accused of just about anything these days?

That's been around a long time Angelo.

As have other names.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #40 on: August 05, 2015, 05:54:16 PM »
Its a pity that the allegations didn't come to light when they were alive, answerable, and could be punished if found guilty. I guess, That's what makes them historic sex abuse cases.

People complained about them when they were alive, but were ignored, weren't they? Aren't  Wiltshire police being accused of a cover-up in regard to Heath? Of course that's the other reason to investigate, it seems our Police were less than thorough and we need to know about that too.
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Offline Anna

Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #41 on: August 05, 2015, 06:05:42 PM »
I see the Jersey children's home has re emerged in the Ted Heath accusations. Isn't is wonderful too how the dead can be accused of just about anything these days?

It sounds like Jersey was a holiday resort for Paedophiles from around the UK.....Just like Casa Pia was for the Portugal?

As for the dead being accused....Some would say, that it was because they didn't speak up for themselves. 
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Offline jassi

Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #42 on: August 05, 2015, 06:06:17 PM »
Bit strange though how 5 forces are apparently  simultaneously carrying out  investigations in Heath.
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I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

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Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #43 on: August 05, 2015, 06:07:33 PM »
People complained about them when they were alive, but were ignored, weren't they? Aren't  Wiltshire police being accused of a cover-up in regard to Heath? Of course that's the other reason to investigate, it seems our Police were less than thorough and we need to know about that too.

Indeed.

If the allegations are true, members of the 'establishment' have been covering up certain 'activities' for decades.

Think about Thatcher.

Offline jassi

Re: Is prosecuting historic sex cases a waste of public funds?
« Reply #44 on: August 05, 2015, 06:08:27 PM »
Indeed.

If the allegations are true, members of the 'establishment' have been covering up certain 'activities' for decades.

Think about Thatcher.


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I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future